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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 23:14:27 GMT -8
iPad sell outs takes us higher? Or executive clean outs take us lower?
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Post by Mav on Oct 30, 2012 23:23:01 GMT -8
How about "Hurricane Sandy + two missed trading days and all the stuff the market didn't get to react to = more initial volatility than you can shake a stick at"?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 0:15:16 GMT -8
Also October 31st window dressing for some funds.
Don't see any premarket trades yet - maybe still closed?
Edit: PM started, down $1
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Post by appledoc on Oct 31, 2012 0:24:21 GMT -8
From Tuesday intraday: FWIW from Digitimes: iPhone 5 shipments to top 40 million units in 4Q12, say sourcesCage Chao, Taipei; Steve Shen, DIGITIMES [Tuesday 30 October 2012] Shipments of components for iPhone 5 from the supply chain will be ramped up to 13-14 million units in November and to 16-18 million units in December, bringing total shipments of iPhone 5 in the fourth quarter of 2012 to 40 million, according to sources in Apple's supply chain.
Shipments of iPhone 5 were affected in August and September due to low yield rates at component suppliers, raising concerns that the supply chain may not be able to ship up to 40 million iPhones in the fourth quarter as expected, indicated the sources.
However, demand for ICs for iPhone 5 has been boosted to an amount equivalent to 13-14 million iPhone 5s recently thanks to improving yield rates at component suppliers, indicated the sources, adding that IC demand is expected grow another 20% in December.
Sales of the iPhone 5 will gain momentum in the fourth quarter 2012 as well as in the first quarter of 2013, the sources contended.
Would 40 million iPhone 5s be good news or bad news for this quarter? 40M iPhone 5 shipments would be fantastic. Add on 4 and 4S shipments and you have a blockbuster quarter. Whether Digitimes can be trusted is the real question. They are hit or miss with their stories.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 1:14:30 GMT -8
From Tuesday intraday: Would 40 million iPhone 5s be good news or bad news for this quarter? 40M iPhone 5 shipments would be fantastic. Add on 4 and 4S shipments and you have a blockbuster quarter. Whether Digitimes can be trusted is the real question. They are hit or miss with their stories. 40 million iPhone 5 units + 5-10 million iPhone 4/4s would be fantastic!!!
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Post by benoir on Oct 31, 2012 3:04:00 GMT -8
...low volume on the premarket. very tentative
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Post by lance on Oct 31, 2012 4:34:08 GMT -8
200 day moving average fast approaching. Horrible pre-market compared to overall market. Hopefully we get a bounce off the 200day average.
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Post by Rupert on Oct 31, 2012 4:54:53 GMT -8
Resistance/Support Wednesday 10/31/2012
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 31, 2012 5:01:06 GMT -8
Rupert or Wheeles, looking at the chart above, can you please give a quick explanation of the camarilla numbers please.
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Post by Rupert on Oct 31, 2012 5:11:25 GMT -8
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Post by stevereel on Oct 31, 2012 5:11:33 GMT -8
my limited knowledge is... 616.65 is a break out, but if price bounces off 610.33, it may break out short. Likewise, below 591.35, look out below, but if it bounces off 597.68, it may break out long.
Haven't tested using this at all.
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Post by terps530 on Oct 31, 2012 5:38:45 GMT -8
my limited knowledge is... 616.65 is a break out, but if price bounces off 610.33, it may break out short. Likewise, below 591.35, look out below, but if it bounces off 597.68, it may break out long. Haven't tested using this at all. welp, we are in the look out below range :/
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Post by greedynoob on Oct 31, 2012 5:39:20 GMT -8
iPad sell outs takes us higher? Or executive clean outs take us lower? 10s (or 100s) of billions in property losses drags the whole market down, and AAPL with it.
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Post by terps530 on Oct 31, 2012 5:46:49 GMT -8
iPad sell outs takes us higher? Or executive clean outs take us lower? 10s (or 100s) of billions in property losses drags the whole market down, and AAPL with it. except the whole market is up .5%-1% and apple is down 2.5%
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Post by CdnPhoto on Oct 31, 2012 5:48:11 GMT -8
My search on line showed the 200 moving average at 587.85 as of this morning. Did we just bounce of off the 200?
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Post by rob_london on Oct 31, 2012 5:49:56 GMT -8
My search on line showed the 200 moving average at 587.85 as of this morning. Did we just bounce of off the 200? Yes, I believe we very briefly broke the 200 SMA before bouncing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 5:50:04 GMT -8
Well I bought 3 Jan13 600 Calls for $29...here's hoping for a good return on those.
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Post by adamthompson32 on Oct 31, 2012 5:52:52 GMT -8
From Tuesday intraday: 40M iPhone 5 shipments would be fantastic. Add on 4 and 4S shipments and you have a blockbuster quarter. Whether Digitimes can be trusted is the real question. They are hit or miss with their stories. 40 million iPhone 5 units + 5-10 million iPhone 4/4s would be fantastic!!! 45MM iPhones would be really bad. 50MM iPhones would be ok.
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Post by lance on Oct 31, 2012 5:59:16 GMT -8
Am I correct in saying this is the now approaching the worst aapl dip since 2008 by percentage and worst dip in history of the stock by total dollars dropped?
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 31, 2012 6:12:18 GMT -8
iPad sell outs takes us higher? Or executive clean outs take us lower? 10s (or 100s) of billions in property losses drags the whole market down, and AAPL with it. Last day of the month, storm, mgmt shake up, ............... expected. I have put my faith in the 200 DMA, I am sure others have also. If that breaks I give up. The p/e has dropped to 13.3, not the 12.5 of last year, but Apple also has a lot more cash so they should be close to equal in relevance. Barclays viewed the mgmt change as positive.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Oct 31, 2012 6:12:26 GMT -8
Bought some nov 17 590/600 BCS. Lets see.....
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Post by chasmac on Oct 31, 2012 6:22:15 GMT -8
Bought some nov 17 590/600 BCS. Lets see..... Added some Jul 590/620s as well.
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Post by rob_london on Oct 31, 2012 6:42:22 GMT -8
Even Kass must now think AAPL is a bargain at these levels. He just tweeted:
"I have taken a trading LONG rental in APPLE under $590."
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 31, 2012 6:51:42 GMT -8
Even Kass must now think AAPL is a bargain at these levels. He just tweeted: "I have taken a trading LONG rental in APPLE under $590." Well, there is the sign. He has been right and now shifts to long, I hate him (in a AAPL fan way), but he has been right. I have looked at his market calls many times over the last several years and he has been spot on when he has said the market lows were in. What I need is to see a beautiful hammer appear today. Asking for a lot, but one can hope. Yep, that is my strategy nowadays, hope and pray.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 31, 2012 6:52:59 GMT -8
Yikes, just noticed the S&P went red, that's not good. Now AAPL is really going to be tested.
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Post by rob_london on Oct 31, 2012 6:53:05 GMT -8
Andy Zaky tweeted:
"After hitting the 200-day in November 2011, June 2011 and August 2010, we saw rallies of 11.49%, 14.64% and 24.14% over the ensuing 20-days"
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 31, 2012 6:54:57 GMT -8
Andy Zaky tweeted: "After hitting the 200-day in November 2011, June 2011 and August 2010, we saw rallies of 11.49%, 14.64% and 24.14% over the ensuing 20-days" Did he tell his people to go long, or was that just a public service announcement. ;D I am not greedy, I would take the 11.49% in a minute.
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Post by greedynoob on Oct 31, 2012 6:58:26 GMT -8
Andy Zaky tweeted: "After hitting the 200-day in November 2011, June 2011 and August 2010, we saw rallies of 11.49%, 14.64% and 24.14% over the ensuing 20-days" Did he tell his people to go long, or was that just a public service announcement. ;D I am not greedy, I would take the 11.49% in a minute. His portfolios are already pretty much long...
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Post by Apple II+ on Oct 31, 2012 7:07:09 GMT -8
Am I correct in saying this is the now approaching the worst aapl dip since 2008 by percentage and worst dip in history of the stock by total dollars dropped? Nope. Today's low (so far?) of 587.70 is 83.4% of the 705.07 high. Just 5 months ago, the 5/18/12 low of 522.18 was 81.1% of the 644 high. The 5/6/10 flash crash low of 199.25 was 73.1% of the 272.46 high.
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Post by wheeles on Oct 31, 2012 7:15:07 GMT -8
Rupert or Wheeles, looking at the chart above, can you please give a quick explanation of the camarilla numbers please. I've only started looking at Camarilla, and to be honest, thanks to the 2 day forced break, I'm not sure how those values stack up today. I just Googled around and looked at various websites to get a clue on it. Here's one example: www.camarillaequation.com/The levels do tend to work to a certain extent, but a breakout long or short doesn't always result in a breakout. I find that I tend to identify a trend that lasts a week or more and then use the Camarilla to pick my entries once there's a pullback against that longer term trend.
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