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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2012 1:54:29 GMT -8
A new day...
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Post by benoir on Nov 7, 2012 2:01:30 GMT -8
...groundhog day... or will the tide change
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 3:44:22 GMT -8
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 3:57:06 GMT -8
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 4:28:48 GMT -8
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Post by benoir on Nov 7, 2012 4:34:51 GMT -8
not much joy in the PM...
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 4:39:47 GMT -8
not much joy in the PM... Although some decline is to be expected, as AAPL goes ex-dividend today.
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Post by benoir on Nov 7, 2012 4:50:44 GMT -8
although Apple's Cash hoard doesn't seem to have any material impact on AAPL share price - low PE etc. Was there any price drop when AAPL went ex-dividend last time?
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 5:07:06 GMT -8
although Apple's Cash hoard doesn't seem to have any material impact on AAPL share price - low PE etc. Was there any price drop when AAPL went ex-dividend last time? Just had a quick look at the historical prices to refresh my memory. On August 8 AAPL closed at 619.86 and on the following day, when it went ex-div, it opened down at 617.85. It ended the day slightly up, closing at 620.73. It then continued the strong climb up to 700+. A repeat of that price action would be very nice...
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Post by lance on Nov 7, 2012 5:12:44 GMT -8
based on Premarket this extreme overstaying its welcome downtrend still looking for lower prices. My assumption is 10xEPS Guidance+Cash Per Share for next quarter is the worst we will go which is low 560's. Completely overblown but I guess for people who have money left for more dips an amazing buy opportunity.
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Post by benoir on Nov 7, 2012 5:16:54 GMT -8
rob.... a repeat strong climb to $700 plus would be very welcome... having bought in at what I thought were the dips at $605 and $612.. oh well... lucky i'm long, but I don't have much dry powder left. for these deeper dips.
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Post by chiongleng on Nov 7, 2012 5:35:20 GMT -8
if market does goes down. Its good to buy into aapl which already corrected heavily. lesser downside, growth company with almost sure dividend payment for future quarter.
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 5:42:16 GMT -8
I visited two of my local Apple stores yesterday, both located in central London and amongst the largest Apple stores by floor area. Reassuringly both were exceptionally busy; the crowd in the Regent Street store must have been several hundred people. The tables where the iPad minis were on display were packed solid.
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Post by appledoc on Nov 7, 2012 5:59:29 GMT -8
Not very pleased with this PM action, but hopefully this is the final sweep. If you're still holding like I am, keep holding.
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Post by PikesPique on Nov 7, 2012 6:03:19 GMT -8
AAPL: the dip that keeps on dipping.
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Post by lance on Nov 7, 2012 6:13:40 GMT -8
Am I the only one who thinks the dividend has hurt aapl stock trend wise due to the fact I think investors expect say a 1.5-2% yield and that unless aapl increases the dividend it may prevent aapl growing like the stock used.
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Post by stevereel on Nov 7, 2012 6:14:24 GMT -8
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Post by appledoc on Nov 7, 2012 6:24:55 GMT -8
Am I the only one who thinks the dividend has hurt aapl stock trend wise due to the fact I think investors expect say a 1.5-2% yield and that unless aapl increases the dividend it may prevent aapl growing like the stock used. I am no longer a fan of the dividend. Travis was tweeting about this yesterday. But assuming AAPL likes to trade around P/C of 5, the stock is losing $53/share while only handing out $10.60 in dividend each year. Unless you are the greatest trader on earth, and can continually turn out five-baggers, this isn't a good thing. I would much rather keep the value in the stock. If I want a dividend paying stock, I'll buy one. AAPL should have been left alone and more aggressive ideas for investment of that money been explored and implemented. More buy back and zero dividend would have probably helped us more.
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Post by Lstream on Nov 7, 2012 6:26:18 GMT -8
Am I the only one who thinks the dividend has hurt aapl stock trend wise due to the fact I think investors expect say a 1.5-2% yield and that unless aapl increases the dividend it may prevent aapl growing like the stock used. Who knows what millions of independent people are thinking every day when they vote with their money re Apple. Maybe some of them think like this, but we will never know how meaningful those thoughts are. All of us hope to find some "reason" to explain stuff we don't like or understand. I think the search is futile.
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Post by appledoc on Nov 7, 2012 6:26:42 GMT -8
Very nice. I loved reading the Pixar stuff in his biography.
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Post by tradermac on Nov 7, 2012 6:43:40 GMT -8
OMG...
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Post by appledoc on Nov 7, 2012 6:45:09 GMT -8
Calm down. Weak AAPL in a weak market makes things like this happen. We're now below ex-cash PE 10. BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY.
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Post by terps530 on Nov 7, 2012 6:45:22 GMT -8
here we go again, doubling the drop in the S&P.
Who wants to call bottom for the 50th time and watch it continue down after?? garbage
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 6:47:52 GMT -8
I imagine many stop orders sitting just below 570 have been taken out.
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Post by appledoc on Nov 7, 2012 6:50:02 GMT -8
Take a look at the OI for the weeklies. Calls are non-existent below 570.
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 6:50:58 GMT -8
Let's see whether we spike up...
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Post by appledoc on Nov 7, 2012 6:55:05 GMT -8
I think it may be hammer time.
But I'm being patient here.
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Post by rob_london on Nov 7, 2012 6:56:27 GMT -8
Well that was a 19.5% decline from the intra-day high on 21 September. Whoever said that the market is rational?
Edit: Make that a 21% decline.
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Post by lovemyipad on Nov 7, 2012 6:57:32 GMT -8
here we go again, doubling the drop in the S&P. Who wants to call bottom for the 50th time and watch it continue down after?? garbage I might as well...I'll be right eventually... Last, last flush!! Just hold on...it's almost done!!
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Post by lovemyipad on Nov 7, 2012 6:59:33 GMT -8
Anyone who hasn't read Gregg's posts from late last night in previous Intraday, highly recommend...in no small part because I concur.
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