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Post by chinacat on Dec 24, 2016 17:17:50 GMT -8
AAPL pulled out a third straight green week, if only by the skin of its teeth. For perspective, the close on 12/31/15 was 105.26; an increase on the cusp of 10% for the year can only seem uninspiring to those who were on board for the stratospheric years.
Best wishes to all AFB members. There has been the usual frank exchange of differing experiences, expectations and analyses, but most have managed to keep things pretty civil, and I thank everyone for that. I am not expecting any fireworks for the final week of the fiscal year, but as always WTFDIK.
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Post by david on Dec 24, 2016 22:13:17 GMT -8
Anybody unhappy with Consumer Report's recent ridiculous announcement that no one should buy new MacBook Pros? CR came up with seemingly random numbers for their battery tests of the MBPs. So they recommend no one buy it. Rene Ritchie has the best analysis of CR at www.imore.com/consumer-reports-fails-earn-macbook-pro-credibility : "Inconsistent results from battery life tests, for responsible publications, aren't a reason to rush out a headline in time for the holidays. They're a reason to start questioning everything, and to diligently retrace every step along the way, until you can get repeatable, reputable results." ... "Now, I don't think Consumer Reports is faking news here, but I do think they're after attention more than they are answers. Otherwise, I think they would have taken the time to figure out what happened, why, and presented something truly useful. Sadly, I don't think that's their primary concern anymore. And it's why I stopped reading Consumer Reports years ago."
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Post by rickag on Dec 25, 2016 7:27:05 GMT -8
Merry Christmas to all.
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Post by rickag on Dec 25, 2016 7:29:44 GMT -8
Anybody unhappy with Consumer Report's recent ridiculous announcement that no one should buy new MacBook Pros? CR came up with seemingly random numbers for their battery tests of the MBPs. So they recommend no one buy it. Rene Ritchie has the best analysis of CR at www.imore.com/consumer-reports-fails-earn-macbook-pro-credibility : "Inconsistent results from battery life tests, for responsible publications, aren't a reason to rush out a headline in time for the holidays. They're a reason to start questioning everything, and to diligently retrace every step along the way, until you can get repeatable, reputable results." ... "Now, I don't think Consumer Reports is faking news here, but I do think they're after attention more than they are answers. Otherwise, I think they would have taken the time to figure out what happened, why, and presented something truly useful. Sadly, I don't think that's their primary concern anymore. And it's why I stopped reading Consumer Reports years ago." I am not sure it's CR's job to determine the why, that said I have not been a fan of CR's ratings of electronics in general, especially Apple reviews. I am glad Apple reached out to CR for more information.
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Post by zzmac on Dec 25, 2016 9:43:25 GMT -8
Merry Christmas to Sponge and all the interesting and diverse people on this board. Good health, happiness and a strong aapl in 2017.
Cheers to the longs!
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Post by david on Dec 25, 2016 11:57:38 GMT -8
Anybody unhappy with Consumer Report's recent ridiculous announcement that no one should buy new MacBook Pros? CR came up with seemingly random numbers for their battery tests of the MBPs. So they recommend no one buy it. Rene Ritchie has the best analysis of CR at www.imore.com/consumer-reports-fails-earn-macbook-pro-credibility : "Inconsistent results from battery life tests, for responsible publications, aren't a reason to rush out a headline in time for the holidays. They're a reason to start questioning everything, and to diligently retrace every step along the way, until you can get repeatable, reputable results." ... "Now, I don't think Consumer Reports is faking news here, but I do think they're after attention more than they are answers. Otherwise, I think they would have taken the time to figure out what happened, why, and presented something truly useful. Sadly, I don't think that's their primary concern anymore. And it's why I stopped reading Consumer Reports years ago." I am not sure it's CR's job to determine the why, that said I have not been a fan of CR's ratings of electronics in general, especially Apple reviews. I am glad Apple reached out to CR for more information. I'm glad, too. Will CR cooperate, though? Their methodology may well turn out to be ludicrous. Has Apple ever directly responded to one of their "reports" before? Might have been quite a surprise. If CR did a report on the mileage of a Ford Focus and came up with 2, 6 or 27 mpg ("we're not sure which") and then condemned the car ...
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Post by hledgard on Dec 25, 2016 22:02:59 GMT -8
I am not sure it's CR's job to determine the why, that said I have not been a fan of CR's ratings of electronics in general, especially Apple reviews. I am glad Apple reached out to CR for more information. I'm glad, too. Will CR cooperate, though? Their methodology may well turn out to be ludicrous. Has Apple ever directly responded to one of their "reports" before? Might have been quite a surprise. If CR did a report on the mileage of a Ford Focus and came up with 2, 6 or 27 mpg ("we're not sure which") and then condemned the car ... I think this is a real issue. Not sure if it affects the stock so much in the short term, but it DOES affect the efficacy of the Apple brand. I do have the new Pro, and love it. Love the smaller footprint, smaller weight, speed, and the keyboard. Sleek, and fast. Just would appreciate any input you have about the general battery issue.
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Post by bick on Dec 25, 2016 23:31:40 GMT -8
"Now, I don't think Consumer Reports is faking news here" Suzuki Samurai
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Post by david on Dec 26, 2016 0:13:48 GMT -8
"Now, I don't think Consumer Reports is faking news here" Suzuki Samurai Bose 901
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Post by tuffett on Dec 26, 2016 5:28:33 GMT -8
I am not sure it's CR's job to determine the why, that said I have not been a fan of CR's ratings of electronics in general, especially Apple reviews. I am glad Apple reached out to CR for more information. I'm glad, too. Will CR cooperate, though? Their methodology may well turn out to be ludicrous. Has Apple ever directly responded to one of their "reports" before? Might have been quite a surprise. If CR did a report on the mileage of a Ford Focus and came up with 2, 6 or 27 mpg ("we're not sure which") and then condemned the car ... They should absolutely not recommend a car that get 2mpg on one of the tests. To put it another way - as a consumer, would you seriously consider a car that got those results during testing? I sure as hell would not.
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Post by david on Dec 26, 2016 9:06:48 GMT -8
I'm glad, too. Will CR cooperate, though? Their methodology may well turn out to be ludicrous. Has Apple ever directly responded to one of their "reports" before? Might have been quite a surprise. If CR did a report on the mileage of a Ford Focus and came up with 2, 6 or 27 mpg ("we're not sure which") and then condemned the car ... They should absolutely not recommend a car that get 2mpg on one of the tests. To put it another way - as a consumer, would you seriously consider a car that got those results during testing? I sure as hell would not. I would give no credence ... (sigh) ... forget it.
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Post by Ted on Dec 26, 2016 10:12:10 GMT -8
I'm glad, too. Will CR cooperate, though? Their methodology may well turn out to be ludicrous. Has Apple ever directly responded to one of their "reports" before? Might have been quite a surprise. If CR did a report on the mileage of a Ford Focus and came up with 2, 6 or 27 mpg ("we're not sure which") and then condemned the car ... They should absolutely not recommend a car that get 2mpg on one of the tests. To put it another way - as a consumer, would you seriously consider a car that got those results during testing? I sure as hell would not. Would you have published the results of yr testing if they were so scattered though? This car gets 200 mpg one test and 6 mpg the next? Seems rather irresponsible and sensational... Thus Phil interceding.
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Post by Ted on Dec 26, 2016 10:13:00 GMT -8
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Post by tuffett on Dec 26, 2016 11:09:09 GMT -8
They should absolutely not recommend a car that get 2mpg on one of the tests. To put it another way - as a consumer, would you seriously consider a car that got those results during testing? I sure as hell would not. Would you have published the results of yr testing if they were so scattered though? This car gets 200 mpg one test and 6 mpg the next? Seems rather irresponsible and sensational... Thus Phil interceding. The tests they ran seemed fairly standard and were explained. I agree they rushed out the results to get hits but that doesn't negate the fact that the results are legitimate cause for concern. The fact that Apple removed the battery life indicator after so many years tells me something is up. Were this to happen with anyone but Apple I imagine this board would be far less critical of CR and far more derisive of the OEM in question. Am I wrong?
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Post by Ted on Dec 26, 2016 12:26:25 GMT -8
Would you have published the results of yr testing if they were so scattered though? This car gets 200 mpg one test and 6 mpg the next? Seems rather irresponsible and sensational... Thus Phil interceding. The tests they ran seemed fairly standard and were explained. I agree they rushed out the results to get hits but that doesn't negate the fact that the results are legitimate cause for concern. The fact that Apple removed the battery life indicator after so many years tells me something is up. Were this to happen with anyone but Apple I imagine this board would be far less critical of CR and far more derisive of the OEM in question. Am I wrong? Legitimate cause for concern seems to be yr default setting. CR's behavior makes me question their legitimacy on this, but, of course, I'll reserve judgment until we hear from Apple. Some people are getting mixed results with battery life... and Safari seems to be a bigger drain than Chrome in this case, which is weird cuz it's usually the other way around... I think Apple deserves a little slack on this since they've been doing this computer-making thing for a while now. Killing the battery life indicator isn't necessarily a conspiracy. Let's see where this goes.
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