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Post by appledoc on Nov 15, 2012 7:10:27 GMT -8
SPY had a pretty nice bounce of yesterday's lows. Hopefully it will stick.
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Post by mbeauch on Nov 15, 2012 7:13:06 GMT -8
SPY had a pretty nice bounce of yesterday's lows. Hopefully it will stick. Markets have turned green while AAPL flounders, this bites.
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Post by wheeles on Nov 15, 2012 7:13:57 GMT -8
But how are funds still over-leveraged the stock is down 30% and was this price like 10 months ago. If this is the case they have been over-leveraged for months on end. AAPL has underplayed the NASDAQ basically since March so it seems odd that they would be over-leveraged if it is trading worse than the overall market. The lower it goes, the more funds that were previously OK become over-leveraged.
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Post by doublerainbow on Nov 15, 2012 7:15:12 GMT -8
i'm so sick of this. put in a stop order at 530 to sell half my common at least to get some tax benefits out of this if nothing at all. will repurchase after wash sale period. at this rate don't see them shooting up like a rocket before i can repurchase my stock (hope I'm wrong) but there's just so much ground to cover that i wouldn't really miss the opportunity even if i sat out for awhile... ):
also historically the stock never bounces back until i make a dumb move so here's to dumb moves pre-comeback!
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Post by mbeauch on Nov 15, 2012 7:24:36 GMT -8
Over the last couple of days AAPL has received several upgrades, yet nothing helps. It appears the analyst are trying their best to stop the madness, but the machines are in total control. Who would have ever thought 8 straight weeks of down was possible, not me. Not one single week of relief. There was the bounce to 650 that Wheeles called nicely, but except for that, it is beating after beating.
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Post by doublerainbow on Nov 15, 2012 7:34:01 GMT -8
I thought $630 was close to the end (so did Andy Zaky), never thought it'd be down another $100... I still have full faith in the stock long-term but this is messing with my emotions and i don't like that with Thanksgiving around the corner! lol
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Post by appledoc on Nov 15, 2012 7:35:25 GMT -8
Over the last couple of days AAPL has received several upgrades, yet nothing helps. It appears the analyst are trying their best to stop the madness, but the machines are in total control. Who would have ever thought 8 straight weeks of down was possible, not me. Not one single week of relief. There was the bounce to 650 that Wheeles called nicely, but except for that, it is beating after beating. In this environment, the only things that matter are hard numbers and momentum. Hard numbers aren't coming for another two months. So we need upward momentum to break out of this.
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Post by appledoc on Nov 15, 2012 7:41:21 GMT -8
I thought $630 was close to the end (so did Andy Zaky), never thought it'd be down another $100... I still have full faith in the stock long-term but this is messing with my emotions and i don't like that with Thanksgiving around the corner! lol I'm glad I'm not Andy. Based on his tweets since $100 ago, he's highly emotional and driving himself insane. He just tweeted that we need to stay at $530 until 11am. WHY? We're now looking at 20 minute trading windows? Come on.
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Post by rob_london on Nov 15, 2012 7:50:11 GMT -8
AAPL forward P/E ex-cash must be about 6.
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Post by po1nt on Nov 15, 2012 7:52:15 GMT -8
Sub 12 PE and 2%+ Divy.
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Post by Iceage on Nov 15, 2012 7:53:32 GMT -8
I thought $630 was close to the end (so did Andy Zaky), never thought it'd be down another $100... I still have full faith in the stock long-term but this is messing with my emotions and i don't like that with Thanksgiving around the corner! lol I'm glad I'm not Andy. Based on his tweets since $100 ago, he's highly emotional and driving himself insane. He just tweeted that we need to stay at $530 until 11am. WHY? We're now looking at 20 minute trading windows? Come on. He just tweeted again about that $530 !
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Post by phoebear611 on Nov 15, 2012 7:53:35 GMT -8
Andy just tweeted this: "We just need 9 more minutes at $529... "
WTF???
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Post by appledoc on Nov 15, 2012 7:55:08 GMT -8
AAPL forward P/E ex-cash must be about 6. TTM hit 9.07. I am stupefied! But seriously, bring on 522 so we can see what we've got. It wants to go there.
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Post by appledoc on Nov 15, 2012 7:55:40 GMT -8
Andy just tweeted this: " We just need 9 more minutes at $529... "WTF??? I'm very close to quitting following him. He's losing it.
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Post by terps530 on Nov 15, 2012 7:55:40 GMT -8
522 just like 585 just like 615 just like 645 right?? hope not...
I'm going to the DR for 4 days for my buddies wedding. Sure am happy I paid ahead for that trip cause that'd be a lot tougher now. I can't wait to attempt to forget about all this BS over the past two months.
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Post by phoebear611 on Nov 15, 2012 7:58:01 GMT -8
Andy just tweeted this: " We just need 9 more minutes at $529... "WTF??? I'm very close to quitting following him. He's losing it. Well 529 did not hold until 11 so now what's he going to write?!
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Post by Iceage on Nov 15, 2012 8:00:00 GMT -8
Andy just tweeted this: " We just need 9 more minutes at $529... "WTF??? I'm very close to quitting following him. He's losing it. I hope you're not paying that $1000 membership fee for six months!
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Post by phoebear611 on Nov 15, 2012 8:00:52 GMT -8
market cap $497 bln = 11.9 P/E - cash $121 bln = enterprise value $376 bln = 9.0 P/E = completely ridiculous
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Post by appledoc on Nov 15, 2012 8:01:25 GMT -8
I'm very close to quitting following him. He's losing it. Well 529 did not hold until 11 so now what's he going to write?! He just claimed it bottomed and it's time to buy. "For the second time in this correction..."
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Post by Iceage on Nov 15, 2012 8:04:23 GMT -8
Well 529 did not hold until 11 so now what's he going to write?! He just claimed it bottomed and it's time to buy. "For the second time in this correction..." Last time I followed his advice was $100 ago. Mmmmm...
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Post by appledoc on Nov 15, 2012 8:05:02 GMT -8
"First one was a bust, this one is real."
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Post by appledoc on Nov 15, 2012 8:05:57 GMT -8
He just claimed it bottomed and it's time to buy. "For the second time in this correction..." Last time I followed his advice was $100 ago. Mmmmm... His credibility is on the line big time here. Ballsy move trying to call the bottom again.
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Post by phoebear611 on Nov 15, 2012 8:06:02 GMT -8
"First one was a bust, this one is real." A broken clock.....
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Post by blofeld on Nov 15, 2012 8:08:48 GMT -8
can someone link to andy's tweets? i did believe him at his last call... the one in may was uncanny, but this one had a somewhat greater margin of error than one might wish... as JM Keynes used to say: The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay liquid. It was thus in the 1920s and 30s, before computers and hedge funds; why should it be different today?
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Post by lance on Nov 15, 2012 8:09:28 GMT -8
grew EPS 60% from this time last year yet the stock is up around 30% plain and simple bullshit underplay and P/E compression.
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Post by blofeld on Nov 15, 2012 8:16:53 GMT -8
Last time I followed his advice was $100 ago. Mmmmm... His credibility is on the line big time here. Ballsy move trying to call the bottom again. he also called for 20$ plus in a single day recently, etc. all short-term prognosis like that is clearly bull.
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Post by doublerainbow on Nov 15, 2012 8:16:59 GMT -8
well he did call the bottom around $530 in June before it started coming back... but 5 months later the same bottom? ): ugh what's his rationale?
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Post by tradermac on Nov 15, 2012 8:17:45 GMT -8
well he did call the bottom around $530 in June before it started coming back... but 5 months later the same bottom? ): ugh what's his rationale? Only bottom I see is my account.
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Post by doublerainbow on Nov 15, 2012 8:19:31 GMT -8
well he did call the bottom around $530 in June before it started coming back... but 5 months later the same bottom? ): ugh what's his rationale? Only bottom I see is my account. me too. if it makes you feel any better, i lost all my gains this year AND last year and then some... my stop order triggered I guess.. I just want the pain and suffering to be done with already... so drained...
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Post by Apple II+ on Nov 15, 2012 8:21:12 GMT -8
I would like to just get to 522 and get it out of the way already. Direction when we hit that will tell us a lot. 522 was a non dividend number, that number would be 517 now. 517.51, applying closing price adjustment to intraday low from yahoo finance: Link to Yahoo Finance Data
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