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Post by appledoc on Nov 26, 2012 8:03:48 GMT -8
iPhone 5 shipment times down to a week in Australia. I do not know how to compare wait times for the iPhone 5. How many different varieties are available in Australia? 6How many in the USA? 18?I find it very hard to compare..... I think you just look at the trend. Shipping times improving in Australia probably means that the US and the rest of the world is not too far behind.
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Post by bribery on Nov 26, 2012 8:35:20 GMT -8
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Post by doublerainbow on Nov 26, 2012 8:38:53 GMT -8
working hard to break 580, maybe a breakthrough after lunch hour? (:
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Post by Tetrachloride on Nov 26, 2012 8:38:53 GMT -8
I can envision a lighter weight Apple phone but cheap ? Battery innovations would be key.
Certainly there are possibilities, but I had a lot more faith in a larger iPhone/iPod (long story omitted) than an iPhone Nano does in the next year. Two years ?
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Post by rosie on Nov 26, 2012 8:46:26 GMT -8
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Post by rob_london on Nov 26, 2012 8:47:13 GMT -8
The possibility of a low cost iPhone for emerging markets is discussed in the latest edition of Horace Dediu's Critical Path podcast (from the about the 52 minute mark) 5by5.tv/criticalpath/64
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Post by Tetrachloride on Nov 26, 2012 8:49:09 GMT -8
580 to 580.88.
Time for the ace coffee.
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Post by qualitywte on Nov 26, 2012 8:51:27 GMT -8
I don't think it's necessary as long as we've got the carrier subsidies. Maybe emerging markets and other countries where the subsidy is different/absent, then it would be a good idea to have a product to reach mass market where Apple doesn't have one now. I would hope they have one in the pipeline but not release it unless appropriate.
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Post by appledoc on Nov 26, 2012 8:51:39 GMT -8
I don't think anybody is going to kill Samsung. Regarding a smaller, cheaper iPhone, who knows.
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Post by greedynoob on Nov 26, 2012 9:02:44 GMT -8
I don't think it's necessary as long as we've got the carrier subsidies. Maybe emerging markets and other countries where the subsidy is different/absent, then it would be a good idea to have a product to reach mass market where Apple doesn't have one now. I would hope they have one in the pipeline but not release it unless appropriate. Exactly, it is necessary only in markets where subsidies are not common. Emerging markets now, maybe other markets in the future if some external force creates changes in the carriers' business models. And I suspect that Apple's attitude is that it is also not necessary until it can be done with decent margins, because I don't expect them to change their mind about ceding unprofitable sectors to "competitors" willing to play in that space. But, I suspect that within a few years they will actually be able to offer a decent product at a decent margin (30%+) for much lower unsubsidized prices. And, much as with the smaller tablet, they may not need to meet or beat the price of the competition--I'm not entirely sure how that would play out in emerging markets, price vs reputation, but even there it's possible that Apple's reputation will precede the product and people will be willing to stretch a bit to get the perceived higher quality. May we all live in interesting times, eh?
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Post by wolverine on Nov 26, 2012 9:06:35 GMT -8
Interesting ... but the way I read the last few paragraphs, it sounds like he expects a double bottom around 500 before going to ATH.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 9:07:19 GMT -8
I'm not a believer in EW. And he does come off as defensive in the remarks section. I'll keep an open mind, however.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 9:08:25 GMT -8
Interesting ... but the way I read the last few paragraphs, it sounds like he expects a double bottom around 500 before going to ATH. The only plausible reason(s) we go there again is if fiscal talks falter and/or Israel drops bombs on Iran.
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Post by Mav on Nov 26, 2012 9:15:50 GMT -8
Wow.
Powered over 580 so far.
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Post by wolverine on Nov 26, 2012 9:31:28 GMT -8
Interesting ... but the way I read the last few paragraphs, it sounds like he expects a double bottom around 500 before going to ATH. The only plausible reason(s) we go there again is if fiscal talks falter and/or Israel drops bombs on Iran. Or if Apple misses again.
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Post by tradermac on Nov 26, 2012 9:42:37 GMT -8
This is probably the most hated AAPL rally ever. I'm pretty sure most of retail got obliterated after this latest correction. The over-leveraged and early dip buyers have been wiped out. As the market likes to rally with the least passengers on board, looks like this rally will go higher than most expect.
Ugh, bittersweet for me, rolled my jan 650/750s out to april 650/660 and now the jan is DOUBLE the value of the apr. Grrrrr!
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Post by bloodylongaapl on Nov 26, 2012 9:44:18 GMT -8
Or the next tranche of Greek aid is witheld.
Or Italian debt issues blow up.
Or is the Spanish Catalan devolution story turns into a story about a failing country.
Etc, etc... We're not out of the woods yet.
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Post by appledoc on Nov 26, 2012 9:47:09 GMT -8
Color me impressed. This is insane.
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Post by Mav on Nov 26, 2012 9:47:29 GMT -8
How does anyone hate this AAPL rally?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 9:50:53 GMT -8
I picked a good day to quit smelling glue...
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Post by tradermac on Nov 26, 2012 9:52:59 GMT -8
How does anyone hate this AAPL rally? Hated by those that got wiped out or panicked out and didn't get back in which is probably the majority out there... but you already knew what I meant.
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Post by lance on Nov 26, 2012 9:54:15 GMT -8
Clearly AAPL is trending towards 200 day MA. Should be interesting to see if it is initially rejected ie bounces off the 200 day or explodes straight through.
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Post by moltenfire on Nov 26, 2012 9:55:05 GMT -8
How does anyone hate this AAPL rally? Hated by those that got wiped out or panicked out and didn't get back in which is probably the majority out there... but you already knew what I meant. They should probably get back in now (and help fuel this rally)
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Post by mbeauch on Nov 26, 2012 9:56:02 GMT -8
I picked a good day to quit smelling glue... Well, if that were your only vise..... ;D
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Post by doublerainbow on Nov 26, 2012 9:57:45 GMT -8
Clearly AAPL is trending towards 200 day MA. Should be interesting to see if it is initially rejected ie bounces off the 200 day or explodes straight through. sorry what is the 200 day MA?
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Post by mbeauch on Nov 26, 2012 9:57:48 GMT -8
Love the strength today, but now I have to look over my shoulder at that gap at 572. UGH!
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 26, 2012 10:01:14 GMT -8
Hated by those that got wiped out or panicked out and didn't get back in which is probably the majority out there... but you already knew what I meant. We don't know too many who fell into that category, right? And for those that did (Nate, and others), hopefully it was a small amount of money and a good learning experience, even if it hurt. Looks like my TV fund of 10 Nov 30th 565-575 BCSs is doing well. I bought them at 4.3, and the current bid is 7.6. Not to get too greedy, but at the current underlying price of $588 I'm going to just let it ride.
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Post by appledoc on Nov 26, 2012 10:01:29 GMT -8
We're getting awfully close to Avi's 589/592 target level.
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Post by lance on Nov 26, 2012 10:02:07 GMT -8
200 day SMA is 597 and the 200 day EMA is 573 based on the charts I use. So we exploded through the EMA with ease. See what happens when we get the 590-600 territory.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 10:03:16 GMT -8
Love the strength today, but now I have to look over my shoulder at that gap at 572. UGH! I'm sure glad I don't carry the burden of knowing more TA or EW. For every short term TA and EW prediction, there's a more accurate, long term prediction. Which is another way of saying: Don't trade AAPL! Does anyone think AAPL won't make at least $800 by Sept. 2013?
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