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Post by tuffett on Dec 17, 2012 5:55:30 GMT -8
Interesting. iPhone 5 China launch was bigger than the entire iPhone 4 launch. And this is for a phone that is three months "old". Hugely bullish in my opinion.
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Post by roni on Dec 17, 2012 5:56:08 GMT -8
I bought some shares and added to a Jan 2014 position Friday afternoon.
Have a fair amount of cash, but probably have all the Apple's I want.
Hunting for a few more good dividend positions
Not worried
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 17, 2012 5:56:13 GMT -8
Cue suggestive puns... LOL, Phoebes and Birdie!! I would say - hey what are you talking about we are two women! - but alas it would only make it worse....let's move on to stock price.
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Post by Rupert on Dec 17, 2012 5:58:34 GMT -8
Resistance/Support Monday 12/17/2012
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Post by appledoc on Dec 17, 2012 6:13:54 GMT -8
PM is insane. I don't know what to think.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 17, 2012 6:16:43 GMT -8
PM is insane. I don't know what to think. We need 515...and then probably 522 or 523. (If I remember correctly) There was also a 493ish level where we had a 61.8 retracement from 705 where we could have a nice bounce from .... if this all sounds whip-sawish...guess it is. Guess we'll have to be vigilant today to see where it goes
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 17, 2012 6:18:31 GMT -8
Wow - if you had no idea what schizophrenia was like - just look at AAPL in PM....unreal.
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Post by appledoc on Dec 17, 2012 6:34:59 GMT -8
I need to see a doctor for the neck injury I have sustained this morning.
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Post by terps530 on Dec 17, 2012 6:46:17 GMT -8
well at least it didn't gap up to signal the usual collapse. it looks like no one knows which way to go haha-
regardless .5% up is better than .5% down!
edit: i'll be quiet now
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Post by fas550 on Dec 17, 2012 6:48:32 GMT -8
Time for new sources Mr. Milunovich. I'd be pissed if I were paying UBS for advice. "Some of our Chinese sources do not expect the iPhone 5 to do as well as the iPhone 4S," UBS analyst Steven Milunovich wrote in a note to clients."
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Post by nkmho on Dec 17, 2012 6:51:46 GMT -8
Did not follow the session on Friday and was a little irritated when I saw the 1-minute chart. What's up with those spikes every 10 min between 1:45 and 2:45? Did this really occur? According to Nanex, they were dark pool trades: www.nanex.net/aqck2/3930.html
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Post by fas550 on Dec 17, 2012 6:52:12 GMT -8
Wow our 10 day avg volume is now 27 mil. Anyone know the yearly or longer term average? I believe it's around 13 or 15 mil. The 10 day avg is virtually a capitulation indicator itself.
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Post by Big Al on Dec 17, 2012 7:01:27 GMT -8
AAPL, red in a sea of green. Unbelievable.
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Post by fas550 on Dec 17, 2012 7:02:16 GMT -8
I won't post the link but even Rocco P has come out slamming analysts and the current sentiment on Apple. Second talking head turning away from the crowd.
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Post by lance on Dec 17, 2012 7:02:29 GMT -8
Apple Management better have answers at this January earnings call. There are way too many price cuts going on when it appears there is little wrong with the company. To keep their usual mouth shut at this earnings call would be insane when their stock is losing 4% a day. They better provide something other than a random conservative EPS guidance and Revenue Guidance. They need to provide clarification if there is a demand issue or supply issue and clear up all this BS, so investors can make an educated deicision on whether this company is worth investing in.
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Post by rob_london on Dec 17, 2012 7:03:23 GMT -8
HD's take on the numbers from China: www.asymco.com/2012/12/17/calibrating-launch-performance-for-the-iphone-in-china/#disqus_threadAn important point has been raised in the comments section of the post. The iPhone 5 was launched in Hong Kong in the first wave in September, so the numbers released at the weekend only relate to the rest of China and Taiwan. From an analyst at Atlantic Equities: "To put the 2m figure in context, IDC estimates that Apple shipped 17.7m units to mainland China in FY12 (and 27.4m into Greater China), meaning launch weekend shipments were over 10% of last year's total volumes."
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Post by nkmho on Dec 17, 2012 7:04:14 GMT -8
Wow our 10 day avg volume is now 27 mil. Anyone know the yearly or longer term average? I believe it's around 13 or 15 mil. The 10 day avg is virtually a capitulation indicator itself. Went on Yahoo pumped out a spreadsheet of historical data and ran it through Excel. Average volume for the past year is 18.5 mil.
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Post by Apple II+ on Dec 17, 2012 7:16:20 GMT -8
Apple Management better have answers at this January earnings call. There are way too many price cuts going on when it appears there is little wrong with the company. To keep their usual mouth shut at this earnings call would be insane when their stock is losing 4% a day. They better provide something other than a random conservative EPS guidance and Revenue Guidance. They need to provide clarification if there is a demand issue or supply issue and clear up all this BS, so investors can make an educated deicision on whether this company is worth investing in. What is the incentive to Apple to support the share price? Unless they have plans to use stock for an acquisition, I don't see any. Compensation? As long as the stock is up a decent amount each year (say > 10% or 20%), that's probably good enough for compensation. In fact, Apple has a compensation incentive not to support the share price now that Apple is buying back shares for employee compensation. A cheaper share price means the company saves on compensation.
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Post by Apple II+ on Dec 17, 2012 7:18:29 GMT -8
Horaces writes "Apple also announced for the first time this year first weekend sales for China: 2 million. This is, as far as I know, the first weekend sales data for a single market outside of the US." China is the new U.S.
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Post by lance on Dec 17, 2012 7:19:24 GMT -8
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Post by terps530 on Dec 17, 2012 7:22:43 GMT -8
get out the barf bags...
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Post by appledoc on Dec 17, 2012 7:24:08 GMT -8
Here comes 500. 496.69 was PM low.
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Post by po1nt on Dec 17, 2012 7:28:20 GMT -8
Per Scott Redler
"$aapl below $505.50 pivot- the longer it stas below. The higher the probability for $500 test or perhaps $486 quickly."
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Post by fas550 on Dec 17, 2012 7:36:17 GMT -8
Wow our 10 day avg volume is now 27 mil. Anyone know the yearly or longer term average? I believe it's around 13 or 15 mil. The 10 day avg is virtually a capitulation indicator itself. Went on Yahoo pumped out a spreadsheet of historical data and ran it through Excel. Average volume for the past year is 18.5 mil. Thanks. Higher than expected but we have a big run up and down :-(
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Post by po1nt on Dec 17, 2012 8:00:50 GMT -8
Per Scott Redler "$aapl below $505.50 pivot- the longer it stas below. The higher the probability for $500 test or perhaps $486 quickly." Next Tweet: "I did nibble on some $aapl long at that $505ish pivot. Needs to get going to get out of the danger zone. My stop is 503.50"
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Post by tuffett on Dec 17, 2012 8:25:23 GMT -8
Apple Management better have answers at this January earnings call. There are way too many price cuts going on when it appears there is little wrong with the company. To keep their usual mouth shut at this earnings call would be insane when their stock is losing 4% a day. They better provide something other than a random conservative EPS guidance and Revenue Guidance. They need to provide clarification if there is a demand issue or supply issue and clear up all this BS, so investors can make an educated deicision on whether this company is worth investing in. What is the incentive to Apple to support the share price? Unless they have plans to use stock for an acquisition, I don't see any. Compensation? As long as the stock is up a decent amount each year (say > 10% or 20%), that's probably good enough for compensation. In fact, Apple has a compensation incentive not to support the share price now that Apple is buying back shares for employee compensation. A cheaper share price means the company saves on compensation. Aside from the fact that they have an obligation to act in the best interests of the shareholders, nothing. Clearly the strategy of sandbagging guidance to the point of YoY declines is not working. It's time to buy back shares on the cheap and provide meaningful guidance going forward. Who here would not be buying AAPL if they had the cash right now? So why shouldn't Apple do it?
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Post by Lstream on Dec 17, 2012 8:25:24 GMT -8
Apple Management better have answers at this January earnings call. There are way too many price cuts going on when it appears there is little wrong with the company. To keep their usual mouth shut at this earnings call would be insane when their stock is losing 4% a day. They better provide something other than a random conservative EPS guidance and Revenue Guidance. They need to provide clarification if there is a demand issue or supply issue and clear up all this BS, so investors can make an educated deicision on whether this company is worth investing in. You have entirely unrealistic expectations for a conference call. Slamming Apple is an Internet fixation now. One conference call will do NOTHING to change that. There will always be something negative to write about Apple, since the stories attract eyeballs. Even if it means making crap up.
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Post by podboy on Dec 17, 2012 8:41:17 GMT -8
China numbers are great. Apple sold more iPhone 5's over the weekend than they sold all of last 4Q.
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Post by terps530 on Dec 17, 2012 8:58:26 GMT -8
WAG: With The Who: "Don't get fooled again" playing in the background, I say 'its over!' If I had anything to invest left, id buy stock or options with a minimum of june expiration to be safe.
A call spread at this price level for July makes over 100%...
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Post by doublerainbow on Dec 17, 2012 8:59:59 GMT -8
"proboard's apple finance board" was mentioned in the 2013 investors guide of Fortune. Just received today and was reading the article on aapl investment, something positive for a change.
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