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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 15:16:11 GMT -8
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Post by fas550 on Dec 20, 2012 15:23:43 GMT -8
Apple's been failing in the eyes of pundits for years now. Let the market decide, not the media. The truth is in the quarterly reports and Apple better deliver in fiscal Q1 and Q2. (Not a matter of Apple surviving - arguably it can coast Microsoft-style for a good few years, easy. It's a matter of AAPL remaining this scale of megacap.) Mav yes that's what I do: eventually the revenue and hoard of cash is too big to ignore.
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Post by 4aapl on Dec 20, 2012 15:35:17 GMT -8
Glad I took my daughter out to opening day at the local ski resort instead of babysitting AAPL. Come on AAPL, you can do better than that. Let's see 530 tomorrow, even if you aren't going to show us a little 550 quite yet. Looks like there's some very large action in Jan '13 Puts, with just over 10,000 today at 650. It looks like a spread, with some higher than normal volumes at 450 and a few other OTM put strikes. finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=AAPL&m=2013-01Maybe someone is very bullish, someone wanted a bunch of cash now, or someone was looking at a sneaky way to buy 1M shares in about a month.
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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 15:36:59 GMT -8
*broken record*
Logjam won't be broken by gridlock. What the market wants is resolution and it'll more or less mark time until it happens (and at that point, we can measure things better).
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Post by lovemyipad on Dec 20, 2012 15:37:50 GMT -8
AFB sounds like a 12 step program with people in different stages of recovery. You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 15:38:05 GMT -8
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Post by mstefa on Dec 20, 2012 15:51:21 GMT -8
The gaps I want filled are $700.01 to $695.12 $644.61 to $642.06 $586.19 to $581.80 $575.84 to $569.25 $539.00 to $537.64 but I'll live with the $520 gap for today, and pray we don't fill the gap with "no name" from the month with "no name", that shall never be mentioned or whispered again. I only want to see the gap between 705 and a 1000 closed.
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Post by darrenhd on Dec 20, 2012 15:52:01 GMT -8
iBrowse is an Amiga web browser since before 2002...it's one of the best browsers for the Amiga although it's not modern by todays standards. It lacks HTML 5 for example, but is still fast on a 25MHz 68K cpu
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Post by lovemyipad on Dec 20, 2012 15:54:12 GMT -8
(...) Maybe someone is very bullish, someone wanted a bunch of cash now, or someone was looking at a sneaky way to buy 1M shares in about a month. I like the way you think!!
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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 15:59:47 GMT -8
iBrowse is an Amiga web browser since before 2002...it's one of the best browsers for the Amiga although it's not modern by todays standards. It lacks HTML 5 for example, but is still fast on a 25MHz 68K cpu I used to be a huge fan of Netscape 2.0.
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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 17:08:12 GMT -8
Sheesh.
Is it too early to short AMZN?
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Post by wheeles on Dec 20, 2012 17:15:26 GMT -8
Plan B tossed aside. Futures tanking.
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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 17:17:01 GMT -8
NFLX, AMZN on my "short list".
Hoo boy. Hooray for four more weeks of winter...I mean uncertainty.
And it isn't even Groundhog Day yet!
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Post by fas550 on Dec 20, 2012 17:20:17 GMT -8
Sheesh. Is it too early to short AMZN? I am 50/50 about shorting them his qtr but next qtr looks even better unless they lower guidance during next earnings. I shorted them once and made out well. IMHO the next two qtrs are the best opportunity to short them for the past 2 years. Primarily because of the lower (like non-existent) margins on the Fire. Look at analysts estimates/results for the past year then for the next two qtrs and I believe you'll agree: no way given they sell a product they are taping dollars to as it leaves he warehouse.
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Post by chasmac on Dec 20, 2012 17:27:49 GMT -8
I'll take the down move Mav (little casino side bet).
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Post by fas550 on Dec 20, 2012 17:29:49 GMT -8
Plan B tossed aside. Futures tanking. Wow GOP leader screwed to pooch on that one. To them the end of world will seem like tomorrow. Index futures down 100 on the Dow and 25 on the NAS. Given the recent rally traders probably looking for a reason to create some volatility and they just found it.
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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 17:36:29 GMT -8
Damn, chas! You bet on red for RIMM before the close?
Congrats if so!
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 20, 2012 17:42:43 GMT -8
Holy crap, the futures are down 200+ DOW and 40+ NAS
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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 17:46:45 GMT -8
Not at all unexpected (far as if/then). Just wish I'd made bearish bets today.
What we should expect is whipsawing futures right up til maybe 9:15AM Eastern? NAS futures -34 last I checked.
AAPL's been pounded into paste well in advance of the rest of the market. We'll see if 510 >> 500 are tested tomorrow.
Shoulda bought AMZN/NFLX puts today...oh well.
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Post by rickag on Dec 20, 2012 17:51:15 GMT -8
Off topic, I would like to apologize for accidentally exalting, smiting and/or placing people on the ignore list. My fat fingers keep hitting those obscure icons on my phone.
At least if I hit ignore I see blanks and can correct my error.
So what does every one think will happen on Quad Witching day? Whipsaws? Break below $500?
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Post by chasmac on Dec 20, 2012 17:52:02 GMT -8
Damn, chas! You bet on red for RIMM before the close? Congrats if so! Yes but a very small one and who knows what will happen tomorrow. All I know is that I've seen 2 Blackberry stores in the last 6 months and there was ONE person total in both of them. Plan B didn't have a chance of passing. Idiotic.
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Post by wheeles on Dec 20, 2012 17:53:30 GMT -8
Plan B tossed aside. Futures tanking. Wow GOP leader screwed to pooch on that one. To them the end of world will seem like tomorrow. Index futures down 100 on the Dow and 25 on the NAS. Given the recent rally traders probably looking for a reason to create some volatility and they just found it. Can't say this is much of a surprise. All seems to be going to plan as I outlined a week ago. aaplfinance.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=intradayupdates&thread=218&page=5#18829
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Post by fas550 on Dec 20, 2012 17:54:29 GMT -8
Holy crap, the futures are down 200+ DOW and 40+ NAS The market is going to send a message tomorrow. Lets hope its taken seriously of things to come in the case of a no deal. I am not political at all (despise them equally) and I just want some agreement at this moment in time but the GOP has lost all leverage so perhaps because one side is considerably weakened something will happen. Anyway on a positive note at least this is happening now as opposed to 30 Dec. There is time to spare albeit very little.
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 20, 2012 17:58:02 GMT -8
LOL, I have not posted much this week and I just looked and saw my karma has taken a big hit this week. Geeeez.
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Post by appledoc on Dec 20, 2012 17:59:17 GMT -8
Off topic, I would like to apologize for accidentally exalting, smiting and/or placing people on the ignore list. My fat fingers keep hitting those obscure icons on my phone. At least if I hit ignore I see blanks and can correct my error. So what does every one think will happen on Quad Witching day? Whipsaws? Break below $500? Below 500 wouldn't surprise me. This is happening on top of December option expiry. It's wonderful. Once we get through 514 (61.8% retrace of 501 to 534), we're going to see new lows anyways. May as well get to them quickly. I would wager that futures will rebound overnight.
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Post by Mav on Dec 20, 2012 18:04:55 GMT -8
Likely, not inevitably. But yeah, the trend is whipsaw/down. Hope the weak helium issues (AMZN, NFLX, etc) don't gap down at market open, some hedging insurance would be nice to have.
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 20, 2012 18:05:37 GMT -8
Holy crap, the futures are down 200+ DOW and 40+ NAS The market is going to send a message tomorrow. Lets hope its taken seriously of things to come in the case of a no deal. I am not political at all (despise them equally) and I just want some agreement at this moment in time but the GOP has lost all leverage so perhaps because one side is considerably weakened something will happen. Anyway on a positive note at least this is happening now as opposed to 30 Dec. There is time to spare albeit very little. LOL, Agree, I hate all politicians. I really believe Obama does not want to make a deal. The cliff guarantees large cuts to the defense budget which is his primary goal. The Republicans have already caved and there is still no deal. Niagara anyone?
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Post by jdrizzo89 on Dec 20, 2012 18:11:36 GMT -8
Looking grim Indees. Some put protection at 510 or 500 save us maybe?
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Post by chasmac on Dec 20, 2012 18:28:55 GMT -8
The market is going to send a message tomorrow. Lets hope its taken seriously of things to come in the case of a no deal. I am not political at all (despise them equally) and I just want some agreement at this moment in time but the GOP has lost all leverage so perhaps because one side is considerably weakened something will happen. Anyway on a positive note at least this is happening now as opposed to 30 Dec. There is time to spare albeit very little. LOL, Agree, I hate all politicians. I really believe Obama does not want to make a deal. The cliff guarantees large cuts to the defense budget which is his primary goal. The Republicans have already caved and there is still no deal. Niagara anyone? Boehner didn't even have the votes from his own caucus! Obama threw SS under the bus trying to get something done. Dems were setting their hair on fire over that. Luckily bot a handful of weekly put spreads to help. Tired of this crap. Time to retreat to a bunker.
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Post by Tetrachloride on Dec 20, 2012 18:29:23 GMT -8
I survived the shoveling. A solid foot or more of the heaviest snow. Plenty of neighborly shoveling with more tomorrow.
By Saturday, Wisconsin will be back to its "regular" economic activity.
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