chinacat
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Post by chinacat on Nov 26, 2019 6:27:37 GMT -8
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4aapl
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 26, 2019 10:04:32 GMT -8
I get bugged a bit with the "market up hugely, or AAPL up this giant amount" this year or YTD, mainly because it doesn't take into account the previous year being canceled out. If you smooth it out, you see the stock and index still climbing decently, but much less than the limited springboard view suggests. In short, both for AAPL and SPY the 24 month returns are barely more than the 12 month. Taking that into account, you get annualized returns over the 2 year period of around 24% and 9%. What's interesting, to me, is to look at the 5 year comparison chart. There's been a couple times, including the end of last year, the start of '17, and a few others, where starting 5 years ago AAPL just roughly matched the S&P. But now, in the past 12 months, AAPL has really started to take off in comparison, and so has given some good gains. Even annualizing over the 5 year period, that gives AAPL at around 18% gains, vs the S&P's 8.6%. And that really adds up over time. Will it stick this time? We'll see, though I think the competition near and above the $1T market cap helps, as does the drive to diversify the income stream including into subscriptions. But it's nice to look at that graph and see what has seemed to change, as I remember looking at various longer term charts in the past and seeing that in recent timeframes AAPL was only matching the S&P, but with more volatility. Happy Holidays all! Safe journeys, and be patient and flexible with the weather.
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Post by dreamRaj on Nov 26, 2019 10:50:55 GMT -8
It’s surprising to see MSFT going from higher to higher without any pullback or profit-taking or even a breather. Unstoppable, kinda like AMZN was a few years ago.
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Post by firestorm on Nov 26, 2019 15:51:36 GMT -8
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Post by david on Nov 26, 2019 22:03:50 GMT -8
So, what happened around 3:45 pm when AAPL dropped about 2-1/4 points?
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Post by elmar on Nov 27, 2019 4:51:07 GMT -8
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Post by elmar on Nov 27, 2019 4:52:23 GMT -8
So, what happened around 3:45 pm when AAPL dropped about 2-1/4 points? Good question, but I have no answer
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Post by dreamRaj on Nov 27, 2019 5:02:03 GMT -8
So, what happened around 3:45 pm when AAPL dropped about 2-1/4 points? Wondering about this too. A couple of years ago, a sudden drop like this was enough to break the stock.
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 27, 2019 8:12:34 GMT -8
So, what happened around 3:45 pm when AAPL dropped about 2-1/4 points? Wondering about this too. A couple of years ago, a sudden drop like this was enough to break the stock. I think there's some big players that are moving things around. It's like a bank stress test, in this case seeing what happens if you make a biggish move in the last 10-30 minutes of trading. The chart shows volume of 2.4M shares in the last 10 minutes There were a few days there where AAPL and CVX were moving in opposite ways, after CVX moved up decently post-earnings in a way some said was improbable. The conspiracy theory side of me got me thinking of it being a hedge on China, bidding up oil related stocks on a grim outlook (more safety), and AAPL on a positive. It may have been that, though it was probably just the pattern recognition side of the brain looking for stimulus. Just like the "bug" years ago in the random feature in iTunes, where Apple added (I think, but possibly just considered adding ) a "less random" feature, so back-to-back album songs wouldn't randomly happen when on random. SNOW! The freeways shut down, full of accidents. We left too late and had to turn around, but so did friends that snuck out from school 2 hours earlier. I find it funny how much snow can differ, where 3-5 feet in a day can be perfectly drivable if you have visibility, and yet the first inch or two of a storm can just create a slick ice ring, depending on the temps and moisture. Yesterday was cold, so the roads became slick quickly. But the drier snow also plugged up tire groves quickly, and really got all of the 2wd and big rigs trying to make it through before chain restrictions started. The alternate route is open, and the old 4runner has new tires and did great on a pizza run last night. Only a touch of snow coming down now, but 2-3 feet on the passes, and a foot to clear here. We'll see, but I'm in no rush, and ready to start celebrating Thanksgiving here in town instead of traveling. Nice to see AAPL up today, about what it lost at the end of trading. Up and down, up and down, but overall still trending up a little.
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