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Post by chinacat on Dec 20, 2019 5:45:59 GMT -8
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Post by SomeJuan on Dec 20, 2019 6:23:20 GMT -8
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 20, 2019 6:32:18 GMT -8
AAPL ALL TIME HIGH! $282.65 All Time Highest TODAY intraday
updated at close (3 PM CENTRAL)
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Post by chinacat on Dec 20, 2019 8:12:32 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Dec 20, 2019 10:00:27 GMT -8
I'm not sure if that really makes all things more secure than other secondary ID tests, but it depends on the use. I'd still take a code from the iPhone on your face-id or fingerprint, for only things. I'd want it wirelessly and on me, for the iPhone to just know that it was me, without a fingerprint or face-id. But then you have it with you all the time, probably put it on your keyring or in your wallet, and it would likely be stolen with your iPhone when at the gym swimming or whatever. Suddenly, an implant security ID doesn't look too bad. But, Apple's got that, without any minor medical procedures. You just slap on an Apple Watch, and have it auto-unlock your iPhone. If both are stolen it's a problem, but there could be a software solution to that. Hmmm, how specific is the heart rate or EKG data? But maybe just staying activated until off your wrist is plenty. Ahhh, the things I wish for while skiing, when I have to backtrack to typing in a passcode. There's got to be a better way... Nice move AAPL....and the market as a whole
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Post by duckpins on Dec 20, 2019 11:43:48 GMT -8
Anything is better than another driverless car.
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 20, 2019 11:55:54 GMT -8
I like how Apple considers privacy and security inseparable. It always amazes me when someone gives a Nest camera a good review and never even mentions that it is made by a company whose business model is selling their "customers'" data. I've heard Leo Laporte on the radio rave about Chromebooks and other Google products, while never mentioning the privacy issue. I laugh at people who call Apple users "sheeple." Unless they have rooted their phones and installed a non-Google version of Android, they are the sheep with embedded RFID chips in their collars.
When the product is free, you are the product.
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 20, 2019 12:19:29 GMT -8
I don't understand how you would get past the latency problem, at least for calls. There is a delay in time for the signals to bounce up to the satellites and back that would make people step on each other in a conversation. Maybe good for downloads. I don't see the huge payoff unless it can totally replace cell towers. But I am not a rocket surgeon. I'm thinking about how Steve sold the original iPhone to the skeptical carriers: "The iPhone is a salesman for your data plans."
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 20, 2019 12:24:58 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Dec 20, 2019 12:58:36 GMT -8
I don't understand how you would get past the latency problem, at least for calls. There is a delay in time for the signals to bounce up to the satellites and back that would make people step on each other in a conversation. Maybe good for downloads. I don't see the huge payoff unless it can totally replace cell towers. But I am not a rocket surgeon. I'm thinking about how Steve sold the original iPhone to the skeptical carriers: "The iPhone is a salesman for your data plans." In the SpaceX article, it talked about 35-40ms latency on data, with bandwidth equivalent to Fiber. Given my network lately (I'm thinking a DNS is bad), I sometimes have much much worse than that. It's different for voice, and I don't know what the delay there is. SpaceX is putting many more satellites up in the air, so they can be lower and cut down on all of this. The article said they are 700 lbs, so they are much smaller too. It also said they would be in low orbit...maybe it said 700 miles up. A friend of mine is working on selling the product, aimed now at small remote companies. Like an oil drilling rig. He showed us the antenna, about the size of a pizza, and said it wasn't down-scalable (i.e. could you get a 1/4 the speed if you cut the diameter in half...related to surface area). Anyways, interesting stuff. Things improve, and what couldn't be profitable before, now can, sometimes. I'd rather see Apple work with SpaceX on this, but I can see the other side of that, especially if it's something Apple feels is very important. If Apple is going to single-source, they want to be the single-source. Yep....looks like the stock is pulling to ~280. I wouldn't think that smallish OI number would be enough, but daily volume is at about 50k for the 280 call, 282.5 call, and 280 put. That's a lot, for a day like today. If options are the only pull, then there should be a nice kick back up Monday morning....but that doesn't always work.
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Post by dreamRaj on Dec 20, 2019 13:01:40 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Dec 20, 2019 16:18:08 GMT -8
I don't understand how you would get past the latency problem, at least for calls. There is a delay in time for the signals to bounce up to the satellites and back that would make people step on each other in a conversation. Maybe good for downloads. I don't see the huge payoff unless it can totally replace cell towers. But I am not a rocket surgeon. I'm thinking about how Steve sold the original iPhone to the skeptical carriers: "The iPhone is a salesman for your data plans." I live in the country, with very poor cell service. I’m depending on a cell booster to make cell service possible. I would very much enjoy cell service anywhere I may roam. But from the AAPL view, think about how the cell providers have dictated how, when and how much cell service would be for the companies that produce the actual phone, like Apple. This could truly be a game changer. I would guess that there are emergency meeting being called right now by the cell providers on how to deal with today’s news about Apple getting into their game. The moat that they thought to be impregnable is looking very weak right now. Tim, this is your chance to take over the world. Don’t wait 10 years to do it.
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 20, 2019 17:00:10 GMT -8
I don't understand how you would get past the latency problem, at least for calls. There is a delay in time for the signals to bounce up to the satellites and back that would make people step on each other in a conversation. Maybe good for downloads. I don't see the huge payoff unless it can totally replace cell towers. But I am not a rocket surgeon. I'm thinking about how Steve sold the original iPhone to the skeptical carriers: "The iPhone is a salesman for your data plans." Tim, this is your chance to take over the world. Don’t wait 10 years to do it. Careful now, that has my antitrust antennae going up.
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Post by Dave on Dec 21, 2019 4:05:09 GMT -8
Tim, this is your chance to take over the world. Don’t wait 10 years to do it. Careful now, that has my antitrust antennae going up. True, that could be a problem
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Post by awcabot on Dec 23, 2019 4:41:13 GMT -8
Volume on friday was extraordinarily high, at 69M shares, when the average was 25M shares. Any clues as to why?
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Post by PikesPique on Dec 23, 2019 6:39:54 GMT -8
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