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Post by carbonate24 on Dec 31, 2019 6:33:42 GMT -8
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Post by chinacat on Dec 31, 2019 7:07:26 GMT -8
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Post by ono on Dec 31, 2019 8:27:06 GMT -8
Just a note re: Apple's work on user privacy. www.macrumors.com/2019/12/31/apple-responds-to-wsj-ios-13-location-report/As of iOS 13, apps are no longer able to present an "always allow" option when requesting access to a user's location. The only way to grant an app continuous access to location is to navigate to Settings > Privacy > Location Services, tap on an app, and select the "always" option if available. iOS 13 also periodically reminds users about apps that are continuously tracking their location, complete with a map of those locations. An on-screen alert provides users with options to continue to "always allow" ongoing access to their location or to limit access to while the app is being used. "Apple has not built a business model around knowing a customer's location or the location of their device," an Apple spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal, adding that Apple builds its hardware and software with privacy in mind. The amount of location data collected by apps while in the background has dropped by 70 percent since iOS 13 was released, according to Jason Smith, chief business officer of data intelligence company Location Sciences. Given how easily the data can be used to identify and track individuals, that is a promising sign.
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Post by benoir on Dec 31, 2019 8:52:35 GMT -8
Tim Cook Has Increased Apple’s Value by More Than $1 Trillion. No Other CEO Can Say That. Here
And 2020 Predictions for the Global Economy and Markets link
I neither agree or disagree with the 2020 prediction article, it’s just someone's perspective anyways it’s already 2020 for me and I don’t have 20/20 vision at this horrendous time of the day (3am ish) HNY all
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Post by Dave on Dec 31, 2019 11:10:51 GMT -8
Tim Cook Has Increased Apple’s Value by More Than $1 Trillion. No Other CEO Can Say That. Here
And 2020 Predictions for the Global Economy and Markets link
I neither agree or disagree with the 2020 prediction article, it’s just someone's perspective anyways it’s already 2020 for me and I don’t have 20/20 vision at this horrendous time of the day (3am ish) HNY all This story that’s implying that were it not for Tim Cook, Apple would not be a trillion dollar company is a bit of a stretch. I completely agree that Tim has made some great contributions to Apples growth (like removing the gun emoji) that can’t be overlooked. Had the writer acknowledged that the man that founded, expanded, rescued and not only set the foundation and built the walls for the company we see today had not died, at what was a still young age, would still be the one setting in the big mans seat today. Again, I’m not saying that Tim Cook hasn’t been a great leader for Apple, but give credit where it is due. Tim may be one of the luckiest men in the world. That headline I would agree with.
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 31, 2019 12:06:57 GMT -8
Just closed my first options trade of 2019. I bot a 1/3 AAPL 290-292.5 last week at the dip. BOT for a dollar and sold for $1.50 in the Roth. Only 50 contracts, but every little bit helps. Of course AAPL pops now. No guts, no glory! BTW a Bloomberg (I just realized I get that channel via ETrade) guest was saying today that Bitcoin gained 9,000,000% since 2010. I have a little of the CBTC ETF in the Roth (bought recently, unfortunately didn't get it in 2010!). Too bad the IRS torpedoed Bitcoin's practical value by treating it as an asset rather than as a currency (taxes it as a capital gain). Little known fact: The 2019 federal tax forms have a question, "did you buy or sell a cryptocurrency in 2019?" Amazing how our privacy rights just vanish every year without any public debate, infringed by nameless faceless un-elected bureaucrats. I remember not too long ago when all stock gains were self-reported and your brokerage didn't act as an IRS informant. CNBC's Bill Griffeth is semi-retiring today. I remember watching him in college on Financial News Network back in like 1990 when I was "day trading" via that high tech automated push-button phone thing. Ah, the trades I wish I made then... And since nobody mentioned it,
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Post by ono on Dec 31, 2019 14:21:23 GMT -8
Artman. Artman?
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Post by bud777 on Dec 31, 2019 14:21:23 GMT -8
Just closed my first options trade of 2019. I bot a 1/3 AAPL 290-292.5 last week at the dip. BOT for a dollar and sold for $1.50 in the Roth. Only 50 contracts, but every little bit helps. Of course AAPL pops now. No guts, no glory! BTW a Bloomberg (I just realized I get that channel via ETrade) guest was saying today that Bitcoin gained 9,000,000% since 2010. I have a little of the CBTC ETF in the Roth (bought recently, unfortunately didn't get it in 2010!). Too bad the IRS torpedoed Bitcoin's practical value by treating it as an asset rather than as a currency (taxes it as a capital gain). Little known fact: The 2019 federal tax forms have a question, "did you buy or sell a cryptocurrency in 2019?" Amazing how our privacy rights just vanish every year without any public debate, infringed by nameless faceless un-elected bureaucrats. I remember not too long ago when all stock gains were self-reported and your brokerage didn't act as an IRS informant. CNBC's Bill Griffeth is semi-retiring today. I remember watching him in college on Financial News Network back in like 1990 when I was "day trading" via that high tech automated push-button phone thing. Ah, the trades I wish I made then... And since nobody mentioned it, Since you brought it up foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/14/us-china-trump-pretend-trade-deal/s that great former president said ."Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice....no wait...how does that go?"
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Post by ono on Dec 31, 2019 14:35:39 GMT -8
Happy, happy thoughts. Happy New Year! It's been a heck of a ride. Many thanks to all of the members that helped me ride it.
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Post by incorrigible on Dec 31, 2019 14:38:35 GMT -8
Great year for AAPL and the markets in general. Happy New Year to all Apple longs.
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Post by dreamRaj on Dec 31, 2019 15:20:40 GMT -8
Happy new year to all AAPLers! May we see 400 this year
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Post by benoir on Dec 31, 2019 16:26:31 GMT -8
Tim Cook Has Increased Apple’s Value by More Than $1 Trillion. No Other CEO Can Say That. Here
And 2020 Predictions for the Global Economy and Markets link
I neither agree or disagree with the 2020 prediction article, it’s just someone's perspective anyways it’s already 2020 for me and I don’t have 20/20 vision at this horrendous time of the day (3am ish) HNY all This story that’s implying that were it not for Tim Cook, Apple would not be a trillion dollar company is a bit of a stretch. I completely agree that Tim has made some great contributions to Apples growth (like removing the gun emoji) that can’t be overlooked. Had the writer acknowledged that the man that founded, expanded, rescued and not only set the foundation and built the walls for the company we see today had not died, at what was a still young age, would still be the one setting in the big mans seat today. Again, I’m not saying that Tim Cook hasn’t been a great leader for Apple, but give credit where it is due. Tim may be one of the luckiest men in the world. That headline I would agree with. Yeah... I don’t disagree with what you are saying. I didn’t like the headline - ist suggests that Tim Cook is the only guy doing any work at Apple. Whereas Tim has presided over(perhaps govern is a better word here) Apple which has great culture, values and expectations, great employees, a clear understanding of what it wants to be and a pretty good roadmap to guide them. What Tom Cook has likely done is maintain the culture of Apple which has enabled Apple to be as productive as it can be ultimately resulting in a lift for AAPL.
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Post by socal Film Composer on Dec 31, 2019 16:31:27 GMT -8
Happy New Year LONGS! I'll be happy for $350 by the end of 2020 - I'd prefer a slow burn from here vs. metoric rises but we shall see - BTW the CLOSING price on the thread is incorrect - let's celebrate the last rally of 2019! Google says - $293.65. to finish out the year.
t Summary > Apple Inc. NASDAQ: AAPL Follow 293.65 USD +2.13 (0.73%)
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 31, 2019 18:26:31 GMT -8
Glad to be wrong, as AAPL finished strong and no pullback this week (never go full Sponge), as one would expect. Even the markets finished green, which is amazing when typically we see year end profit/loss taking and fund rejiggering.
Maybe Apple carried the Dow and NASDAQ on its back today. What a bullish way to end the year.
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 31, 2019 23:26:33 GMT -8
AAPL ALL TIME HIGH!$293.97All Time Highest FRIDAY 12/27/2019 intraday 25,247,625
shares traded today AAPL ALL TIME HIGHEST CLOSE!$293.65aaplinvestors.net/stats/rank/AAPL market CAP. +1.305 TRILLION AAPL ALL TIME HIGH market CAP. +1.305 TRILLION TODAY +$1.305 TRILLION
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Post by zzmac on Jan 1, 2020 0:00:29 GMT -8
Happweee New Year to everybody!
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Post by macster on Jan 1, 2020 5:29:04 GMT -8
Just closed my first options trade of 2019. I bot a 1/3 AAPL 290-292.5 last week at the dip. BOT for a dollar and sold for $1.50 in the Roth. Only 50 contracts, but every little bit helps. Of course AAPL pops now. No guts, no glory! BTW a Bloomberg (I just realized I get that channel via ETrade) guest was saying today that Bitcoin gained 9,000,000% since 2010. I have a little of the CBTC ETF in the Roth (bought recently, unfortunately didn't get it in 2010!). Too bad the IRS torpedoed Bitcoin's practical value by treating it as an asset rather than as a currency (taxes it as a capital gain). Little known fact: The 2019 federal tax forms have a question, "did you buy or sell a cryptocurrency in 2019?" Amazing how our privacy rights just vanish every year without any public debate, infringed by nameless faceless un-elected bureaucrats. I remember not too long ago when all stock gains were self-reported and your brokerage didn't act as an IRS informant. CNBC's Bill Griffeth is semi-retiring today. I remember watching him in college on Financial News Network back in like 1990 when I was "day trading" via that high tech automated push-button phone thing. Ah, the trades I wish I made then... And since nobody mentioned it, Since you brought it up foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/14/us-china-trump-pretend-trade-deal/s that great former president said ."Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice....no wait...how does that go?" Well that’s a nice negative spin Bud777. The fact that the economy has grown a plus 2% despite tariffs is significant. And obviously you couldn’t expect the necessary total reform of China’s anti-trade dilapidated trade pirating worldwide to be fixed in round one. I think China realizes now reform will not hurt but strengthen them because they will still be tremendous economic powerhouse albeit on a more fair playing field. It will take some time. There is the perplexing problem of China’s strong influence in the WTO, so much so that American Taxpayer dollars are being used for WTO’s low interest loans to China. Now why would China need WTO loans?
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Post by JDSoCal on Jan 1, 2020 11:43:30 GMT -8
What's funny is that article you linked strongly argues that China is, in fact, screwing us on multiple fronts. And here we finally have the first president of any political persuasion actually trying to do something about that, all the while the stock market and economy and unemployment numbers are booming, and of course, Apple is rocketshipping to daily ATH's. And yet you're complaining. I think they have a medical term for that. TDS.
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Post by ono on Jan 1, 2020 14:52:33 GMT -8
> "And here we finally have the first president of any political persuasion actually trying to do something about that" I try to stay away from these things, but to keep saying this isn't accurate. You've ignored my previous non-non-inflamatory post about the TPP. Let me concede that TPP wasn't perfect - but neither was it "bad". Furthermore it could have been improved by Trump with Republican majorities in both houses. You may not like the methods that previous president's have used, but the TPP was a years long effort by an administration to deal with China; and amazingly strong given the lack of support from corporate America, their lobbyist, and Congress. Maybe read this www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3035608/trump-has-one-more-weapon-his-us-china-trade-war-arsenal-trans and say it was our president's plan all along - to improve and reintroduce it in his 2nd term. Or Google and read many informative articles, from both "sides", that said it could have been successfully improved by this administration even with (or because) it's flourish at deal making. Much of TPP was watered down to get scared US corporations onboard, because they were making a ton of money trading with China and didn't want to confront China. (Their CEO's and board's with short term views.) TPP was air cover, and the best that negotiators at that time could assemble. It may be your opinion that TPP wasn't an effort by a previous administration, and I'll politely disagree. PS: I'll also concede that Bush's WTO deal (15 years in the making), supported by a free trade Congress and later signed by Clinton, was a disaster. "“I try not to regret things,” said Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), a Trump supporter who was one of 83 senators to vote for the China bill. “That’s one I regret.” “The Republican electorate has gone along with their leaders, begrudgingly, for 20 or 30 years,” Sessions said. “I supported all these trade agreements . . . but it’s becoming clear that the promises that were made weren’t true.” The 2000 vote effectively unleashed a flood of outsourcing to China, which in turn exported trillions of dollars of cheap goods back to the United States. Over the next 10 years, economists have concluded, the expanded trade with China cost the United States at least 2 million jobs. It was the strongest force in an overall manufacturing decline that cost 5 million jobs. www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/21/how-republicans-helped-create-donald-trump-more-than-15-years-ago/End rant.
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Post by JDSoCal on Jan 1, 2020 15:51:40 GMT -8
> "And here we finally have the first president of any political persuasion actually trying to do something about that" I try to stay away from these things, but to keep saying this isn't accurate. You've ignored my previous non-non-inflamatory post about the TPP. Let me concede that TPP wasn't perfect - but neither was it "bad". Furthermore it could have been improved by Trump with Republican majorities in both houses. You may not like the methods that previous president's have used, but the TPP was a years long effort by an administration to deal with China; and amazingly strong given the lack of support from corporate America, their lobbyist, and Congress. Maybe read this www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3035608/trump-has-one-more-weapon-his-us-china-trade-war-arsenal-trans and say it was our president's plan all along - to improve and reintroduce it in his 2nd term. Or Google and read many informative articles, from both "sides", that said it could have been successfully improved by this administration even with (or because) it's flourish at deal making. Much of TPP was watered down to get scared US corporations onboard, because they were making a ton of money trading with China and didn't want to confront China. (Their CEO's and board's with short term views.) TPP was air cover, and the best that negotiators at that time could assemble. It may be your opinion that TPP wasn't an effort by a previous administration, and I'll politely disagree. PS: I'll also concede that Bush's WTO deal (15 years in the making), supported by a free trade Congress and later signed by Clinton, was a disaster. "“I try not to regret things,” said Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), a Trump supporter who was one of 83 senators to vote for the China bill. “That’s one I regret.” “The Republican electorate has gone along with their leaders, begrudgingly, for 20 or 30 years,” Sessions said. “I supported all these trade agreements . . . but it’s becoming clear that the promises that were made weren’t true.” The 2000 vote effectively unleashed a flood of outsourcing to China, which in turn exported trillions of dollars of cheap goods back to the United States. Over the next 10 years, economists have concluded, the expanded trade with China cost the United States at least 2 million jobs. It was the strongest force in an overall manufacturing decline that cost 5 million jobs. www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/21/how-republicans-helped-create-donald-trump-more-than-15-years-ago/End rant. Probably not the best use of time to debate a dead treaty, or re-litigate what every presidential candidate in the last 30 years said about China vs what they actually did. But there is at least a decent case to make that unilateral trade agreements are better for larger players. I'm not going to defend outsourcing, but *insourcing* is even more appalling, whether its a flood of illegals suppressing poor workers' wages, or H1B's displacing US tech workers (and in some cases forcing the displaced workers to train their replacements! e.g., AT&T and Disney). I'd just hope we could all agree China has been a bad actor and we've let them get away with it and something should be done about it. And if you (speaking to all of AFB here) don't agree, I'd like to hear a better argument than self-centered whining about one's brokerage account balances being affected by short-term stock swings when Apple is almost $300. Outsourcing: Selfish! Whining about the "trade war" hurting your brokerage account: ?
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