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Post by lovemyipad on Apr 26, 2013 15:15:03 GMT -8
The bar is open...
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Post by lovemyipad on Apr 26, 2013 15:16:55 GMT -8
AAPL ONE-HOUR CHART:
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Post by artman1033 on Apr 26, 2013 16:15:24 GMT -8
1) all is well in Saint Paul. Shoveled 4 inches snow Wednesday Morning. Bicycled 24 miles (round trip) Friday to visit Grandkids and Daughter with temperature over 70 degrees F. 2) Facebook may have done something to anger GOOGLE 3) ERIC SCHMIDT on the internets. 4) Nice to see Luca Maestri, Apples controller, has not been forgotten. 1st batch of 38,091 shares AAPL stock vests in the future. 5) I am tempted to SHI* MY PANTS!6) May I have a cold one? MILLER in bottle please.
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Post by rickag on Apr 26, 2013 17:23:24 GMT -8
On a different note, Fry's Electronics is going to start a sale. For what you ask, why the brand new Galaxy S IV for $149.
It's not even out yet and the price has been dropped from $249 to $149.
There will be lines around the block nationwide.
Samsung truly blows.
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Post by coma on Apr 26, 2013 17:59:14 GMT -8
On a different note, Fry's Electronics is going to start a sale. For what you ask, why the brand new Galaxy S IV for $149. It's not even out yet and the price has been dropped from $249 to $149. There will be lines around the block nationwide. Samsung truly blows. It must be the high demand thats driving the price drop . . .
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Post by Mav on Apr 26, 2013 20:03:08 GMT -8
AAPL brought the cash along.
Next week will provide more clues as to as to whether it worked.
A flurry of price target cuts and massively reduced expectations and so far AAPL's hanging in there. It does help when the Board's given the OK to buy back an extra $50B stock, including on the open market.
Of all the ways to end a week, UP, strongly, on decent volume (really, pretty good volume) and through 415 micro resistance isn't too shabby for a countertrend bounce. We'll keep measuring as we go.
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Post by mstrmac on Apr 26, 2013 22:48:18 GMT -8
Unbelievable that they included Apple and the narrative is just incompetence. [/URL]
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Post by Mav on Apr 26, 2013 22:52:49 GMT -8
Apple's brand is horribly damaged. Because this $160B juggernaut has negative perception on WS, and amongst the 110%-integrity financial media and bloggers! And as you know, WS/financial media/blogger perception is EVERYTHING!
Eff the actual customers!
(/mild sarcasm) (just a little)
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Post by rezonate on Apr 27, 2013 3:16:05 GMT -8
A flurry of price target cuts and massively reduced expectations and so far AAPL's hanging in there. All the evidence we need to prove the disconnect.
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Post by appledoc on Apr 27, 2013 3:47:07 GMT -8
A flurry of price target cuts and massively reduced expectations and so far AAPL's hanging in there. All the evidence we need to prove the disconnect. To be fair, I didn't see anyone cut their target below where we closed Tuesday. So one way to look at it is, yeah PTs get cut, but there are plenty that are still 20%+ above where we stand.
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Post by qualitywte on Apr 27, 2013 6:51:55 GMT -8
Good article comparing Android and iOS: tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/04/27/apple-iphone-android-yankee/?source=yahoo_quote"Think of the Apple and Android ecosystems as two buckets of water. New smartphone buyers — mostly upgrading feature phone owners — fall like rain into the two big buckets about equally, with a smaller number falling into Windows Phone and BlackBerry buckets. However, the Android bucket leaks badly, losing about one in five of all the owners put into it. The Apple bucket leaks only about 7 percent of its contents, so it retains more of the customers that fall into it. The Apple bucket will fill up faster and higher than the Android one, regardless of the fact that the Apple bucket may have had fewer owners in it to begin with."
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Post by Mav on Apr 27, 2013 8:10:08 GMT -8
So PT cuts would have no impact on price action? It IS true that actual downgrades haven't happened...yet but you'd think PT cuts would test composure just a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 8:30:05 GMT -8
So PT cuts would have no impact on price action? It IS true that actual downgrades haven't happened...yet but you'd think PT cuts would test composure just a bit. I would hope by now that price targets are viewed with heavy skepticism - at least in the case of Apple. Hard to say what happens next week, but I don't expect any downgrades at this point -- there's more upside if one's time horizon extends past 6 months.
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Post by qualitywte on Apr 27, 2013 8:37:18 GMT -8
So PT cuts would have no impact on price action? It IS true that actual downgrades haven't happened...yet but you'd think PT cuts would test composure just a bit. I think those with weak composure are either long gone or broken. Those who remain know that these PT cuts, WS analysts projections, FUD, and media hit pieces are just short sighted BS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 9:43:12 GMT -8
A report by your intrepid reporter at a high traffic ATT store:
Today was the first day for in-store availability of Samsung's new flagship, the S4: The new wunderkind phone that was ushered in by a Broadway show, heralding the NEW iPhone killer that breaks all records.
I don't think so.
No lines, not even stanchions for the appearance of demand for this handset. I wandered by the store twice over a 30 minute interval and observed only tepid interest: Only one guy was handling it. Later on the second visit, the HTC and the S4 were a lonely sight -- zero customers were even looking at them.
The last time a phone received this much hoopla and met such an underwhelming reception on launch day was the Blackberry Storm. Ouch.
You'll recall that earlier in the week a senior ATT rep mentioned that he had sold only two units on preorder over a 10 day period, which is consistent with this lackluster start.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 10:28:48 GMT -8
On a different note, Fry's Electronics is going to start a sale. For what you ask, why the brand new Galaxy S IV for $149. It's not even out yet and the price has been dropped from $249 to $149. There will be lines around the block nationwide. Samsung truly blows. It isn't going to matter. The bigger the Android, the greater the number of Android to iPhone switchers down the road. allthingsd.com/20130426/androids-leaky-bucket-loyalty-gives-apple-the-edge-over-time/Any share gains Samsung makes today, will be for naught in less than 3 years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 10:31:18 GMT -8
Good article comparing Android and iOS: tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/04/27/apple-iphone-android-yankee/?source=yahoo_quote"Think of the Apple and Android ecosystems as two buckets of water. New smartphone buyers — mostly upgrading feature phone owners — fall like rain into the two big buckets about equally, with a smaller number falling into Windows Phone and BlackBerry buckets. However, the Android bucket leaks badly, losing about one in five of all the owners put into it. The Apple bucket leaks only about 7 percent of its contents, so it retains more of the customers that fall into it. The Apple bucket will fill up faster and higher than the Android one, regardless of the fact that the Apple bucket may have had fewer owners in it to begin with." Ahhh, Quality posted it before I referenced it further down.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 10:47:03 GMT -8
So PT cuts would have no impact on price action? It IS true that actual downgrades haven't happened...yet but you'd think PT cuts would test composure just a bit. PT cuts made in public aren't the ones you have to be concerned about. It's the cuts made by the decision makers, that never see the light of day that matter, and these only become apparent weeks after the fact. Until then we try to discern what the big boys are doing. No matter how good we may get, we will always be at least a week behind. Personally I think PT are meaningless at this point. Apple's future is either good, or it is not, depends on how filter the noise and interpret the "quiet". I think it's good. There are just to many reports (after you filter the FUD) describing share gains, customer satisfaction and customer loyalty that strongly favors Apple, to think other wise. And this is before any "new category" product is launched. I think of Android as a 'dead OS walking'. It is getting increasingly expensive (royalty payments) to deploy, provides no differentiation to its developer/manufacturers, lacks customer satisfaction and loyalty, and will always be part of a throw away hardware story, never a software solution story.
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Post by rickag on Apr 27, 2013 11:06:43 GMT -8
On a different note, Fry's Electronics is going to start a sale. For what you ask, why the brand new Galaxy S IV for $149. It's not even out yet and the price has been dropped from $249 to $149. There will be lines around the block nationwide. Samsung truly blows. It isn't going to matter. The bigger the Android, the greater the number of Android to iPhone switchers down the road. allthingsd.com/20130426/androids-leaky-bucket-loyalty-gives-apple-the-edge-over-time/Any share gains Samsung makes today, will be for naught in less than 3 years. Greg, I agree. My comment about lines around the block was pure sarcasm.
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Post by appledoc on Apr 27, 2013 13:21:41 GMT -8
So PT cuts would have no impact on price action? It IS true that actual downgrades haven't happened...yet but you'd think PT cuts would test composure just a bit. Granted not a multitude of cuts like we did Wednesday, but we've seen green days in the light of PT cuts since January earnings. I'm just tempering my excitement.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 13:38:38 GMT -8
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Post by lovemyipad on Apr 27, 2013 14:22:28 GMT -8
So PT cuts would have no impact on price action? It IS true that actual downgrades haven't happened...yet but you'd think PT cuts would test composure just a bit. Granted not a multitude of cuts like we did Wednesday, but we've seen green days in the light of PT cuts since January earnings. I'm just tempering my excitement. If we get retrace that holds 398, I vote the f-ing bottom's in!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 15:03:12 GMT -8
A report by your intrepid reporter at a high traffic ATT store: Today was the first day for in-store availability of Samsung's new flagship, the S4: The new wunderkind phone that was ushered in by a Broadway show, heralding the NEW iPhone killer that breaks all records. I don't think so. No lines, not even stanchions for the appearance of demand for this handset. I wandered by the store twice over a 30 minute interval and observed only tepid interest: Only one guy was handling it. Later on the second visit, the HTC and the S4 were a lonely sight -- zero customers were even looking at them. The last time a phone received this much hoopla and met such an underwhelming reception on launch day was the Blackberry Storm. Ouch. You'll recall that earlier in the week a senior ATT rep mentioned that he had sold only two units on preorder over a 10 day period, which is consistent with this lackluster start. I called a region manager in 2 different States (hope I got the title correct. He/she oversees multiple stores). The Store that did best sold 7 S4s on launch day. Crowds were not expected, and were not planned for. This isn't going to be anywhere near a iPhone launch. One of the managers made a comment I thought interesting. There is as much interest in the HTC One as there is the S4. Speculating, he/she feels Samsung's price reduction was caused by the HTC One, and the threat it represents to the Galaxy. What I thought interesting is that Samsung is so worried about a minor player Its as though Samsung knows it'll never overtake Apple, but is paranoid about losing the #2 spot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 15:05:50 GMT -8
If we get retrace that holds 398, I vote the f-ing bottom's in! And of course AAPL must hold $398 beyond Monday, or are you thinking past Monday is enough?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 15:08:33 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 16:30:10 GMT -8
I called a region manager in 2 different States (hope I got the title correct. He/she oversees multiple stores). The Store that did best sold 7 S4s on launch day. This isn't going to be anywhere near a iPhone launch. He/she? How did you get the regional manager to reveal themself to be a ladyboy? ;D Your interviewing skills are impressive... Your comment about Samsung's paranoia is dead on -- they're very worried about the opening they left for HTC. I'll get another read from my ATT rep tomorrow afternoon -- he claims there was less interest in the HTC One earlier in the week. His opinion might change tomorrow after two days selling both handsets.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 16:43:17 GMT -8
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Post by rickag on Apr 27, 2013 17:21:25 GMT -8
Coffee with Tim Cook @ $605,000. I mean WOW. Hope it's the CEO of China Mobile. Edit: I should have said I hope the winning bid is the CEO of China Mobile, works on a couple of levels.
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Post by artman1033 on Apr 27, 2013 17:29:44 GMT -8
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