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Post by greggthurman on Jun 22, 2013 17:50:28 GMT -5
Having a new form factor A5-based iPhone at the $0 price point might even cause a meaningful bump in sales in saturated markets like the US. To say nothing of other markets, which probably won't have that kind of fresh or maybe even competitive product at that price point (you will add LTE, right Apple?) Where the less expensive iPhone is ostensibly targeted are emerging markets where the infrastructure does not support LTE. Major markets like the US and EU are only just now offering LTE outside of major metropolitan markets. China Mobile has only just recently begun rolling it out. No need to offer a capability, that can't be used, in a "cheap" handset. |
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Post by greggthurman on Jun 22, 2013 17:57:19 GMT -5
Doesn't Apple have a 30 day price protection policy? Kinda early inventory clearing for a late September launch. I wouldn't have expected this until late July/early August. |
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Post by greggthurman on Jun 22, 2013 18:00:13 GMT -5
Consumers are stupid. But my comment was more aimed at the media making a big deal about price cuts as if it suggests sales are sluggish. The media is only capable of two dimensional thinking. |
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Post by sponge on Jun 22, 2013 18:02:51 GMT -5
Good news made contact with the law enforcement guy. We will talk this weekend. He is anxious to let me know the latest. Be sure and show him the patent application and the few pixel thin sensor concept, reading off a stored image. Not sure if he would be on the cutting edge of the technology, but.... I have already sent him the link to that story. I want him to study it before we talk. |
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Post by Lstream on Jun 22, 2013 18:10:57 GMT -5
Good news made contact with the law enforcement guy. We will talk this weekend. He is anxious to let me know the latest. Ask him to tell you everything he knows about Mobile Payments, which is what actually matters. That should be good. I know it will never sink in, but end users never know the latest. If they have inside knowledge, then they will be under NDA. And they won't spill their guts to strangers so that they can turn around and plaster it all over the Internet. And in this case, the guy is in a field that is completely irrelevant. But I am sure that will fly completely over your head. Just like always. |
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Post by Mav on Jun 22, 2013 18:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by Lstream on Jun 22, 2013 18:27:59 GMT -5
Except that article was written in March, and he predicted a June launch. Seems like he is off-base this time. |
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Post by Mav on Jun 22, 2013 18:32:11 GMT -5
Well, let's see what shows up in September. *shrug* I don't believe any CheapPhone will have an A6 either.
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Post by Lstream on Jun 22, 2013 18:41:04 GMT -5
Well, let's see what shows up in September. *shrug* I don't believe any CheapPhone will have an A6 either. I agree with the thrust if your original post though. By that time, the A6 will be superseded so an inexpensive, but really solid phone could be feasible. If Apple goes down market a bit, they would pursue value and not cheap. An A6'er would be quite the value device. |
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Post by cbingle on Jun 22, 2013 19:06:29 GMT -5
greg thurman: Appears you have been drinking heavily today and trying to convince yourself on AAPL.
Good on ya mate...STMF
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Post by marcellus on Jun 22, 2013 19:10:54 GMT -5
iOS7 really wants to run on A6 and above, so I think we'll see it in iPhone Jr.
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Post by Mav on Jun 22, 2013 19:17:38 GMT -5
That would be as beautiful as it would be margin-degrading (so also potentially terrifying?).
Of course, that brings up two questions. What will be the "$0" iPhone? Will there remain an iPhone 5 if the CheapPhone is also identical spec-wise?
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Post by applemuncher on Jun 22, 2013 20:03:09 GMT -5
Well if the 4 remains available that would be a first for apple (having 4 models for sale). Does anyone else think this will happen? I Presume the low cost iPhone would replace the iPhone 4 & 4S as the entry level model, selling as a more attractive "new" model, and meaning the whole iPhone lineup would then be standardized with 4" screens, a lightning connector, and Siri capable. The 4 will be EOL in favor of a 4S, 5 and 5S/6 lineup. I see no benefit in redoing proven designs that already sell at a discount, with the exception of the lightning connector on the 4S. My bet is they EOL the 4 and 4s. They might even EOL the 5. High end would be the 5s, low end would be the new lower cost iPhone. I still can't wait for the iPhone with a 5" display. It should already be out. And again, when the 5" iPhone does come out, it will break all sales records, for any mobile phone, ever. Too bad it will be in 2014. |
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Post by marcellus on Jun 22, 2013 20:28:45 GMT -5
+1 to a larger iPhone, say 4.9". iOS7 with the thin font needs a good set of eyes. Thankfully, I have them but Apple is losing sales to those who want the bigger font on a larger display. I'm really surprised it's taken this long, as there is clear demand for 4.5" - 5.2" handsets.
The 4s could be the free phone (a limited run?) with iPhone Jr. at $79 and iPhone at $199.
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Post by marcellus on Jun 22, 2013 20:35:50 GMT -5
I love this design. If it comes with an A6 chip I may get this in lieu of the iPhone 5s, unless the latter has a fingerprint sensor. Apple's penchant for THIN at the expense of battery life and hand comfort seems like an unnecessary tradeoff.  |
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Post by greggthurman on Jun 22, 2013 20:35:54 GMT -5
I no longer pay any attention or put any stock in these rumours. Unless they come from known credible bloggers. There is just too much of an industry in Apple lies for the sake of page hits for me to believe any of it. hooray. + a kajillion |
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Post by greggthurman on Jun 22, 2013 20:43:20 GMT -5
Could just be Apple allowing retailers to maintain sales of the "aging" iPhone 5 during the final three or so months of product life. That careful tightrope walk between devaluing products and incentivizing. Something Tim is more comfortable with than Steve was? If people "need" an iPhone 5 now, discounts are still discounts. Of course the Best Play(tm) is to wait to see what Apple's got on offer, but hey, savings are still savings, even though monthly plans are where most all the costs are. I've posted several times that handset sales peak during the December quarter. If you graph unit sales by quarter you'll see that the lowest quarter is March, with sales in the September quarter just above the June quarter. Anomalies to the average come from new model launch schedules. |
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Post by sponge on Jun 22, 2013 20:53:30 GMT -5
Just left the Apple Store in Fashion Island. Very nice clerk reports that iPhones are still selling well. He believes it is tied to contract expiration. Still gets lots of new smart phone sales, then upgrades from older iPhones and then switchers from Android.
He thinks iOS 7 will really kick start iPhone sales in a big way. It is all about ease of use and UI.
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Post by Mav on Jun 22, 2013 21:03:51 GMT -5
+1 to a larger iPhone, say 4.9". iOS7 with the thin font needs a good set of eyes. Thankfully, I have them but Apple is losing sales to those who want the bigger font on a larger display. I'm really surprised it's taken this long, as there is clear demand for 4.5" - 5.2" handsets. *ahem* "it takes time ..." You don't have to agree with Apple's rationale. But it's very easy to understand given Tim Cook's comments at the D conference. Oh and btw, what kind of display does Samsung use on that 1080p display? Yeah, STILL PENTILE. Now, HTC apparently figured out how to put a proper RGB pixel in that crazy 1080p display of theirs, but needless to say, display considerations are important. |
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Post by Mav on Jun 22, 2013 21:06:19 GMT -5
I love this design. If it comes with an A6 chip I may get this in lieu of the iPhone 5s, unless the latter has a fingerprint sensor. Apple's penchant for THIN at the expense of battery life and hand comfort seems like an unnecessary tradeoff. Ask all those MBA fans how they feel about that. ;D Every millimeter of palm rest thickness would help, after all. Though of course Haswell has enabled a revolution in ultraportable battery life, so thinness isn't really a battery issue anymore. As far as _iPhone_ thickness? Jony Ive isn't much of a fan of "practical" design in certain senses. I mean, Mac Pro made a pretty thunderous design statement to me. One thing though. Assuming that leaked iPhone photo to be somewhat accurate, a battery boost is on the way, which is always welcome. |
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