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Post by pauls on Jun 30, 2013 16:39:40 GMT -8
My iPhone 4 worked perfectly for 2 years. My 5 was swapped out after four months with a new 5 after the genius confirmed that my top button was glitchy AND the light sensor had failed. It seems the i5 is more problematic, but then I did have one of the first few off the line in September. Weird. My top button started getting balky recently. Requires an unsatisfyingly hard push to function. Also day one purchase.
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Post by appledoc on Jun 30, 2013 17:14:06 GMT -8
I can say with 100% certainty that the quality of my new 5 is significantly better than my first batch 5. On my old phone there was a rattling in the upper right corner right out of the box. I now suspect it had to do with the sleep/wake button. The home button also feels much better on the new phone. That had started to get glitchy over the past month or two.
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Post by Mav on Jun 30, 2013 17:30:31 GMT -8
iOS 7 - supports A4 and up (iPhone 4 - June 2010 release)
iOS 8 - May require A5 or better (4S etc. - October 2011 release)
iOS 9 - ?
Apple basically made a "promise" to support old hardware with new iOS releases (with most of the functionality, anyway) for up to 24 months from the _newest_ generation of a particular device. AFAIK that promise (as reflected in Apple's deferred revenue practices) hasn't changed. In practice, call it 2 years and up, maybe up to 3 if you're an early adopter type of the latest and greatest.
Because most consumers think of iPad mini, released around November 2012, as "new", that basically ensures that A5-class devices will be supported through iOS 9 (Sep. 2015 or so?), IMHO. It might be about as "great" an experience as iOS 4 on iPhone 3G, but what can ya do? Luckily, Apple is generally pretty OK about not making iOS more resource-demanding than necessary, and it helps that the Retina Display requires a certain level of GPU performance in the first place. So if the CheapPhone arrives with an A5, it should get around two years of software updates.
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Post by Mav on Jun 30, 2013 17:38:56 GMT -8
I can say with 100% certainty that the quality of my new 5 is significantly better than my first batch 5. On my old phone there was a rattling in the upper right corner right out of the box. I now suspect it had to do with the sleep/wake button. The home button also feels much better on the new phone. That had started to get glitchy over the past month or two. Sure sounds like first-run, gen-one problems to me. I suppose I was "lucky" with my iPhone 4/4S. I couldn't get my iPhone 5 on early upgrade until some weeks after launch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 18:09:59 GMT -8
iOS 7 - supports A4 and up (iPhone 4 - June 2010 release) iOS 8 - May require A5 or better (4S etc. - October 2011 release) iOS 9 - ? Apple basically made a "promise" to support old hardware with new iOS releases (with most of the functionality, anyway) for up to 24 months from the _newest_ generation of a particular device. AFAIK that promise (as reflected in Apple's deferred revenue practices) hasn't changed. In practice, call it 2 years and up, maybe up to 3 if you're an early adopter type of the latest and greatest. Because most consumers think of iPad mini, released around November 2012, as "new", that basically ensures that A5-class devices will be supported through iOS 9 (Sep. 2015 or so?), IMHO. It might be about as "great" an experience as iOS 4 on iPhone 3G, but what can ya do? Luckily, Apple is generally pretty OK about not making iOS more resource-demanding than necessary, and it helps that the Retina Display requires a certain level of GPU performance in the first place. So if the CheapPhone arrives with an A5, it should get around two years of software updates. iOS7 is not going to shine on any A4 SoC. My understanding is that A5 is going to be the minimum to run everything and that iOS7 is optimally designed for A6 and above. iPhone 4 will run iOS7 but not all animations will be running on it.
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Post by Mav on Jun 30, 2013 18:17:11 GMT -8
A6 is the SoC Apple always wanted to build, IMHO.
Looking forward to see how iOS 7 runs on it, since the A6 is _generally_ quite tough to slow down, unless you have multiple resource-heavy apps recently launched.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 20:27:04 GMT -8
I hardly ever use the top button -- home button to wake and that's it, generally. I will cold start the iPhone on occasion but am curious why people are using the top button? Isn't your iPhone configured to go into sleep mode/lock down after a few minutes?
My iPhone was bought on the day of availability and have had zero issues with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 20:27:42 GMT -8
General rule of Apple consumers - hold Apple 100% accountable for hardware issues like buttons that don't work 100% of the time. The kb buttons on my MacBook Pro have begun splitting (from overuse I'm sure). Every time I've gone into the Apple Store to get one fixed they just hand the key for several different styles/models of MacBook Pro. I'm starting to accumulate a nice little supply. kb buttons???
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Post by Mav on Jun 30, 2013 20:38:33 GMT -8
"keyboard"? I've always liked activating the screen with the home button over the sleep/wake switch. Easier target, particularly with a case.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 20:45:23 GMT -8
"keyboard"? I've always liked activating the screen with the home button over the sleep/wake switch. Easier target, particularly with a case. Keyboard buttons splitting? Huh? Never heard such a thing. How long is a person's fingernails to split a key?
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Post by pauls on Jun 30, 2013 21:15:42 GMT -8
I hardly ever use the top button -- home button to wake and that's it, generally. I will cold start the iPhone on occasion but am curious why people are using the top button? Isn't your iPhone configured to go into sleep mode/lock down after a few minutes? My iPhone was bought on the day of availability and have had zero issues with it. I use home button to wake, top button to sleep. If I leave it to sleep on its own there's risk of pocket dialing/ app launching while still 'live' in my pocket.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 21:20:16 GMT -8
I use home button to wake, top button to sleep. If I leave it to sleep on its own there's risk of pocket dialing/ app launching while still 'live' in my pocket. Touche. Yeah, I've used the top bottom for that as well. We've all made pocket calls...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 23:50:56 GMT -8
Sure is a lot of GREEN this morning.
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