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Post by qualitywte on Sept 6, 2013 17:03:39 GMT -8
Damn, no weekend thread yet?.... and with a new dual iPhone launch next week. This board is weak!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 17:06:44 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Sept 6, 2013 17:17:46 GMT -8
LOL. Paging Chris Caso.
Though I'd have to think a lot of the forming lines are marketing stunt/rather-sad-attention-seeking deals. In this era of all-day, every-day, pick-a-source Apple info, it takes people hiding under seriously large rocks to NOT know standard operating procedure for iPhone launches. Order within the first couple hours if you can. Or within 15-30 minutes every day or so for nearby Apple Stores if supplies are limited whenever stock refreshes until you succeed. Done. And heck, maybe even walk into the store on launch day for iPhones ending in "S".
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Post by rickag on Sept 6, 2013 17:20:57 GMT -8
Shamelessly stolen from a post at Arstechnica, by inpher. Post by inpherThe Digital HubI don't think we are there yet, And I don't think Apple thinks we are there yet. Could the new Mac Pro portend the future of a central iHub? It's smaller than a sheet of paper and its design is elegant. Regardless, a very interesting thread, meanwhile I'm still waiting on my xMac.
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Post by qualitywte on Sept 6, 2013 17:34:33 GMT -8
LOL. Paging Chris Caso. Though I'd have to think a lot of the forming lines are marketing stunt/rather-sad-attention-seeking deals. In this era of all-day, every-day, pick-a-source Apple info, it takes people hiding under seriously large rocks to NOT know standard operating procedure for iPhone launches. Order within the first couple hours if you can. Or within 15-30 minutes every day or so for nearby Apple Stores if supplies are limited whenever stock refreshes until you succeed. Done. And heck, maybe even walk into the store on launch day for iPhones ending in "S". It's all because Apple knows they'll sell a buttload and will have them ready to put in the hands of happy consumers. Add CM and DoCoMo and the world will be full of happy iPhone owners!
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 6, 2013 18:30:33 GMT -8
I don't want to be accused of hyperbole, but the next three weeks could signal the biggest sea change in Apple's fortunes since 2007.
Using Katy Huberty's numbers and adding a modest sweetener for the accelerated trade in program, 30 days from now we could be ..(gasp).
Then we get new iPads...
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Post by lovemyipad on Sept 6, 2013 19:01:19 GMT -8
Thank you for opening the bar! I was out all evening -- Toronto Film Festival! ;D
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Post by Mav on Sept 6, 2013 19:03:30 GMT -8
I don't want to be accused of hyperbole, but the next three weeks could signal the biggest sea change in Apple's fortunes since 2007. Using Katy Huberty's numbers and adding a modest sweetener for the accelerated trade in program, 30 days from now we could be ..(gasp). Then we get new iPads... I'm not sure about _Apple_, but _AAPL_? Just maybe. I have enough riding on the first trade to be happy if it meets even 1/3 of my expectations. Other potentially hilarious trigger trades might be added on a channel breakout or, even more hilariously, if I _think_ there might be a breakout. Ah, front-running. ;D
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Post by sponge on Sept 6, 2013 19:28:44 GMT -8
All in. Dodging margin calls.
If we hit 550 in one month I will make up all of my option losses in the last 12 months.
A year from now we will be very happy and two years amazed where the stock will be.
LEAPS are your ticket.
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Post by Mav on Sept 6, 2013 19:30:08 GMT -8
Uh oh.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 6, 2013 19:32:26 GMT -8
Uh oh. Deja vu...
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Post by JDSoCal on Sept 6, 2013 19:37:24 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 20:24:49 GMT -8
I don't want to be accused of hyperbole, but the next three weeks could signal the biggest sea change in Apple's fortunes since 2007. Using Katy Huberty's numbers and adding a modest sweetener for the accelerated trade in program, 30 days from now we could be ..(gasp). Then we get new iPads... Then again, you might have a drinking problem... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 20:26:01 GMT -8
All in. Dodging margin calls. If we hit 550 in one month I will make up all of my option losses in the last 12 months. A year from now we will be very happy and two years amazed where the stock will be. LEAPS are your ticket. Thanks a lot Sponge, you just accomplished what 1,000 car threads could not have...
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Post by Mav on Sept 6, 2013 20:34:02 GMT -8
"If we hit 550 in one month I will make up all of my option losses in the last 12 months" has an...opposite statement as well.
I hope you accounted for IV or used an IV-neutral strategy there sponge. I expect some serious deflation after Tuesday.
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Post by sponge on Sept 6, 2013 20:48:19 GMT -8
Yes Mav
I don't have to sell until Jan 14
Made half the losses today
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Post by Mav on Sept 6, 2013 20:51:01 GMT -8
That implies you lost, say $10K in 12 months and bet 3-5 times as much on Jan 14s (which, as you know, haven't been LEAPs since around Dec 12).
Hopefully you _have_ been scaling into options during the downtrend. That would be very helpful.
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Post by chinacat on Sept 6, 2013 20:54:26 GMT -8
JD,
(too tired to quote from the Intraday thread)
Sorry to be a Gloomy Gus. Guess I'm just worn out as I approach the one year anniversary of my brilliant "buy the f'n dip" purchase at $655. It's been a long hard trek since then. I'm still totally bullish on Apple, just feeling a bit cynical about AAPL. I mean let's face it...the biggest catalyst since then has been a frickin' tweet.
Maybe I was just a year early in my optimism. All signs are good, let's just hope that the market finally wakes up and gives the best company on earth its due.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 6, 2013 20:57:03 GMT -8
I don't want to be accused of hyperbole, but the next three weeks could signal the biggest sea change in Apple's fortunes since 2007. Using Katy Huberty's numbers and adding a modest sweetener for the accelerated trade in program, 30 days from now we could be ..(gasp). Then we get new iPads... Then again, you might have a drinking problem... ;D That, too, is a possibility. But I prefer the other alternative (burp)
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Post by Mav on Sept 6, 2013 21:37:45 GMT -8
chinacat, technicals (yeah yeah Mercel) helped objectively determine that AAPL turned the corner around 440. Breaking price trendlines isn't something too open to interpretation, which means a way to combat uncertainty and emotion - can't prevent it, but as least there's a principled approach available to see how AAPL's been doing.
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Post by sponge on Sept 6, 2013 21:43:10 GMT -8
That implies you lost, say $10K in 12 months and bet 3-5 times as much on Jan 14s (which, as you know, haven't been LEAPs since around Dec 12). Hopefully you _have_ been scaling into options during the downtrend. That would be very helpful. Keep in mind that I had bought options a year ago between 650-700. That money was lost in Jan. Then bought more between 600-500 and that was lost in April. I slowly scaled in from 450-390-490 all spring and summer. Did not invest as much as last year, since I did not have to. They turned green at 470 after being down 80% when we hit 390 . So we are in good shape and much higher then planned. Keep in mind I was not expecting much beyond 525 after Oct. I think 550 is a good estimate between now and end of year.
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Post by phoebear611 on Sept 7, 2013 2:10:05 GMT -8
Here is my fear - AAPL comes out with a stellar product and announces China Mobile on the SAME DAY the Fed announces tapering and Obama decides for the U.S. to punish/attack Syria ....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 4:48:41 GMT -8
The odds are growing longer for a Syria strike. Iraq has cast a very long shadow over our willingness to intervene (Republicans and Democrats included).
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Post by aapldamus on Sept 7, 2013 5:28:53 GMT -8
All in. Dodging margin calls. If we hit 550 in one month I will make up all of my option losses in the last 12 months. A year from now we will be very happy and two years amazed where the stock will be. LEAPS are your ticket. I'm also "all in" though my "all in" position isn't very large. Anyways, I'm in directional butterfly spreads for October 525/550/575. Let's hope for that pop to 550 ;D
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Post by artman1033 on Sept 7, 2013 6:39:47 GMT -8
FWIW: It appears to me that new iPads will be forthcoming in the next week!
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 7, 2013 6:47:28 GMT -8
I think we get the new iPads in October. Dalrymple has "noped" the September expectation. Lets Sam's club move out that old inventory.. It also appears no new Apple set top boxes but an upgrade to the software this week. So, new iOs ( golden master?), new phones, new carriers and new Apple TV software update to integrate with iOS7 capabilities. Best rumor: in honor of the IPhone 5c Mercel will be wearing his coat of many colors on Tuesday! Here he is a few years ago.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 7, 2013 6:59:46 GMT -8
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 7, 2013 7:02:01 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 7:27:56 GMT -8
I think we get the new iPads in October. Dalrymple has "noped" the September expectation. Lets Sam's club move out that old inventory.. It also appears no new Apple set top boxes but an upgrade to the software this week. So, new iOs ( golden master?), new phones, new carriers and new Apple TV software update to integrate with iOS7 capabilities. Best rumor: in honor of the IPhone 5c Mercel will be wearing his coat of many colors on Tuesday! Here he is a few years ago. Actually, that looks remarkably similar to my favorite smoking jacket. I agree -- no iPads until October.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 7:33:58 GMT -8
No problemo: The big news is CM will sell iPhones in the holiday quarter. Apple will sell all they can produce between now and December. My 60M iPhone sales number for FQ1 is beginning to look conservative now.
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