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Post by chinacat on Jun 20, 2014 16:47:09 GMT -8
The bar is open. Time for the pause that refreshes.
So, down $.94 since the split, after a fine run-up beforehand. Do the chartists on the board think that these two weeks have also been the pause that refreshes for AAPL? My gut feel is that it is still a long way to September, but the drums have begun to beat for the coming revelations and can only get louder. The WWDC seems to have all but the usual suspects in an optimistic mood. Can we call these two weeks "consolidation"?
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Post by Mav on Jun 20, 2014 19:11:43 GMT -8
Earnings in about a month. I'm sure that'll get some people's attention even though it's currently Apple's slowest quarter.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jun 21, 2014 2:15:38 GMT -8
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Post by phoebear611 on Jun 21, 2014 3:25:05 GMT -8
Time to go exercise and release frustration...Business Insider has an article about Kanye West comparing Kim Kardashian to AAPL ... the world has really gone mad.
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Post by rezonate on Jun 21, 2014 4:02:15 GMT -8
We skipped the bar but made the drive from Connecticut, USA to New Hampshire, USA to attend the first screening of Atlas Shrugged Part III: Who is John Galt. Besides the swag bag with three draft movie posters and post-it pads marked with "Who is John Galt?" graffiti, it was a fun evening with Randites, free market supporters and free thinkers. The movie was representative of the book and hit all the key ideas. It was obvious they still have work to do with some scenes, but several surprise cameos brought the crowd to their feet. If you saw AS Part II, you'll remember the cameo by Teller (of Penn & Teller), who actually had a couple speaking lines (!!!) and brought the house down. Once they get the kinks ironed out and the rest of the special effects done, it'll be a nice finish to the three movie series.
Enjoy the start of summer on this (for those of us in the northern hemisphere) the longest day. Granite State Music Festival next!
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jun 21, 2014 6:21:28 GMT -8
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Post by bud777 on Jun 21, 2014 7:38:54 GMT -8
We skipped the bar but made the drive from Connecticut, USA to New Hampshire, USA to attend the first screening of Atlas Shrugged Part III: Who is John Galt. Besides the swag bag with three draft movie posters and post-it pads marked with "Who is John Galt?" graffiti, it was a fun evening with Randites, free market supporters and free thinkers. The movie was representative of the book and hit all the key ideas. It was obvious they still have work to do with some scenes, but several surprise cameos brought the crowd to their feet. If you saw AS Part II, you'll remember the cameo by Teller (of Penn & Teller), who actually had a couple speaking lines (!!!) and brought the house down. Once they get the kinks ironed out and the rest of the special effects done, it'll be a nice finish to the three movie series. Enjoy the start of summer on this (for those of us in the northern hemisphere) the longest day. Granite State Music Festival next! Many years ago I was a fan of Ayn Rand. Back then, there was a thing called the Objectivist Society that was spreading the word. Maybe it still exists, I don't know. Anyway, a friend invited me to one of their meetings. "You'll like it", he said. "Everyone brings a dish for pot luck dinner and then we have a speaker and discussions". I said, "How does that work? An Objectivist pot luck? Does everyone just eat the dish that they brought?" A philosophy professor of mine once accused Rand of establishing a synthetic dichotomy. I didn't understand what he meant then, but now I think I get it and it captures the fundamental problem I have with Objectivism. Imagine a stream with rocks standing firmly against the current. These would be the "producers". And there would be creatures in the stream who would hide behind the rocks, benefiting from the lee to survive without contributing. Objectivism is a powerful enticement to be a rock. Here's the problem and the synthetic dichotomy....we are not the rocks or the creatures....we are the stream.
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Post by JDSoCal on Jun 21, 2014 9:43:35 GMT -8
We skipped the bar but made the drive from Connecticut, USA to New Hampshire, USA to attend the first screening of Atlas Shrugged Part III: Who is John Galt. Besides the swag bag with three draft movie posters and post-it pads marked with "Who is John Galt?" graffiti, it was a fun evening with Randites, free market supporters and free thinkers. The movie was representative of the book and hit all the key ideas. It was obvious they still have work to do with some scenes, but several surprise cameos brought the crowd to their feet. If you saw AS Part II, you'll remember the cameo by Teller (of Penn & Teller), who actually had a couple speaking lines (!!!) and brought the house down. Once they get the kinks ironed out and the rest of the special effects done, it'll be a nice finish to the three movie series. Enjoy the start of summer on this (for those of us in the northern hemisphere) the longest day. Granite State Music Festival next! Many years ago I was a fan of Ayn Rand. Back then, there was a thing called the Objectivist Society that was spreading the word. Maybe it still exists, I don't know. Anyway, a friend invited me to one of their meetings. "You'll like it", he said. "Everyone brings a dish for pot luck dinner and then we have a speaker and discussions". I said, "How does that work? An Objectivist pot luck? Does everyone just eat the dish that they brought?" A philosophy professor of mine once accused Rand of establishing a synthetic dichotomy. I didn't understand what he meant then, but now I think I get it and it captures the fundamental problem I have with Objectivism. Imagine a stream with rocks standing firmly against the current. These would be the "producers". And there would be creatures in the stream who would hide behind the rocks, benefiting from the lee to survive without contributing. Objectivism is a powerful enticement to be a rock. Here's the problem and the synthetic dichotomy....we are not the rocks or the creatures....we are the stream. I'd say that you have presented the Ron Swanson (of Parks and Recreation fame) caricature of Objectivism. Rand is quite clear that an essential element of self-interest is the liberty to pursue happiness and love. This would of course include fellowship with one's friends. Freedom of association. A stream's first duty is to flow. A duty to itself and to society. There should not be a Ministry of Stream Flowing, operated by theft and compulsion of other citizens, with the mantra, if it flows, tax it. If it keeps flowing, regulate it. And if it stops flowing, subsidize it. The stream should not ask what its country can do for it. The first duty of a citizen is to take care of himself and his family. That's the single most important duty one can perform for his fellow citizens. If everyone was born and raised with and lived by that credo, rather than one of entitlement, we'd be a hell of a lot better off (now, go ahead libs, argue the false dichotomy of throwing the disabled into the streets). Which is more selfish? 1) "I don't need anything from you, thanks, I'll fend for myself." 2) "Government, give me the fruits of my fellow citizens' labor while I sit on my ass."
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Post by JDSoCal on Jun 21, 2014 11:07:18 GMT -8
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 21, 2014 18:12:48 GMT -8
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Post by ericinaustin on Jun 21, 2014 19:34:43 GMT -8
Many years ago I was a fan of Ayn Rand. Back then, there was a thing called the Objectivist Society that was spreading the word. Maybe it still exists, I don't know. Anyway, a friend invited me to one of their meetings. "You'll like it", he said. "Everyone brings a dish for pot luck dinner and then we have a speaker and discussions". I said, "How does that work? An Objectivist pot luck? Does everyone just eat the dish that they brought?" A philosophy professor of mine once accused Rand of establishing a synthetic dichotomy. I didn't understand what he meant then, but now I think I get it and it captures the fundamental problem I have with Objectivism. Imagine a stream with rocks standing firmly against the current. These would be the "producers". And there would be creatures in the stream who would hide behind the rocks, benefiting from the lee to survive without contributing. Objectivism is a powerful enticement to be a rock. Here's the problem and the synthetic dichotomy....we are not the rocks or the creatures....we are the stream. I'd say that you have presented the Ron Swanson (of Parks and Recreation fame) caricature of Objectivism. Rand is quite clear that an essential element of self-interest is the liberty to pursue happiness and love. This would of course include fellowship with one's friends. Freedom of association. A stream's first duty is to flow. A duty to itself and to society. There should not be a Ministry of Stream Flowing, operated by theft and compulsion of other citizens, with the mantra, if it flows, tax it. If it keeps flowing, regulate it. And if it stops flowing, subsidize it. The stream should not ask what its country can do for it. The first duty of a citizen is to take care of himself and his family. That's the single most important duty one can perform for his fellow citizens. If everyone was born and raised with and lived by that credo, rather than one of entitlement, we'd be a hell of a lot better off (now, go ahead libs, argue the false dichotomy of throwing the disabled into the streets). Which is more selfish? 1) "I don't need anything from you, thanks, I'll fend for myself." 2) "Government, give me the fruits of my fellow citizens' labor while I sit on my ass." I always am reminded of the incredible John Rodgers quote from Kung Fu Monkey when you want to bring up Rand.... “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged . One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." Love it. Eric in Austin
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Post by JDSoCal on Jun 21, 2014 19:54:39 GMT -8
I'd say that you have presented the Ron Swanson (of Parks and Recreation fame) caricature of Objectivism. Rand is quite clear that an essential element of self-interest is the liberty to pursue happiness and love. This would of course include fellowship with one's friends. Freedom of association. A stream's first duty is to flow. A duty to itself and to society. There should not be a Ministry of Stream Flowing, operated by theft and compulsion of other citizens, with the mantra, if it flows, tax it. If it keeps flowing, regulate it. And if it stops flowing, subsidize it. The stream should not ask what its country can do for it. The first duty of a citizen is to take care of himself and his family. That's the single most important duty one can perform for his fellow citizens. If everyone was born and raised with and lived by that credo, rather than one of entitlement, we'd be a hell of a lot better off (now, go ahead libs, argue the false dichotomy of throwing the disabled into the streets). Which is more selfish? 1) "I don't need anything from you, thanks, I'll fend for myself." 2) "Government, give me the fruits of my fellow citizens' labor while I sit on my ass." I always am reminded of the incredible John Rodgers quote from Kung Fu Monkey when you want to bring up Rand.... “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged . One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." Love it. Eric in Austin When you have no basis for argument, abuse the plaintiff. - Cicero
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Post by redinaustin on Jun 22, 2014 4:27:17 GMT -8
I found one! Whats up twitter its been a long time but im back 8h . Twitter for Android Tablets
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Post by redinaustin on Jun 22, 2014 5:35:03 GMT -8
“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged . One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
Love it.
Eric in Austin"
I can't stop laughing.
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Post by qualitywte on Jun 22, 2014 6:55:33 GMT -8
Anyone know why the share price did a swan dive at the close Friday?
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 22, 2014 9:20:44 GMT -8
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Post by phoebear611 on Jun 22, 2014 11:53:16 GMT -8
Anyone know why the share price did a swan dive at the close Friday? I believe it was all indexing / re-balancing related. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jun 22, 2014 11:55:08 GMT -8
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Post by redinaustin on Jun 22, 2014 11:59:24 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Jun 22, 2014 12:13:08 GMT -8
Anyone know why the share price did a swan dive at the close Friday? I believe it was all indexing / re-balancing related. I wouldn't read too much into it. AAPL also regained a decent amount of ground in robust AH trading. It was a drop but not much in percentage terms (especially net) No idea what's next but AAPL hasn't crashed through any floors that I know of.
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 22, 2014 12:47:04 GMT -8
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Post by rickag on Jun 22, 2014 13:40:38 GMT -8
There are a lot of *s in that document. I wonder what information was redacted?
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Post by Mav on Jun 22, 2014 15:27:17 GMT -8
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jun 22, 2014 18:18:03 GMT -8
China data is positive this evening...futures are up...we have June monthly expiration behind us and Apple usually does well the week following expiration. Friday's late day selloff was a weird event but, as others note, after hours was strong.
So, how goes Monday? I'm hoping we get the week off on a high note.
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Post by nagrani on Jun 22, 2014 18:22:16 GMT -8
96 or bust
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 22, 2014 18:49:59 GMT -8
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Post by pauls on Jun 22, 2014 19:50:11 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 20:11:37 GMT -8
China data is positive this evening...futures are up...we have June monthly expiration behind us and Apple usually does well the week following expiration. Friday's late day selloff was a weird event but, as others note, after hours was strong. So, how goes Monday? I'm hoping we get the week off on a high note. I predict up after most of the StockTwits gamblers lost their bets last week. Foxconn is hiring 100,000 workers and Pegatron is increasing its workforce in anticipation of iPhone 6, the mother of all manufacturing ramps. Apple isn't going to have any real competition for the large iPhone(s) this fall. Certainly, it won't be Amazon's Spyware phone (read Dilger for his take).
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