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Post by Since84 on Sept 18, 2015 2:16:05 GMT -8
Good morning everyone. A lot of RED as Wall Street contemplates the Fed inaction. AAPL is also RED trading at 113.82 -0.10 (-0.09%). In the news: Reuters has Apple customers report devices crashing on iOS 9 update. Lead 'A significant number of Apple Inc customers are reporting...' Not sure what significant is, but this article was the first I heard of any problems. Perhaps I'm in a bubble. Updated immediately. Experiencing no problems on any of my iOS devices. Not much else. Don't recall any discussion here of Apple Wins Ruling in Patent Case Against Samsung (WSJ [$]). Too little, too late. Welcome to 21st century American jurisprudence. Apple finally 'won' an injunction against obsolete products. Have a great day. Let's make money.
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Post by mace on Sept 18, 2015 2:27:24 GMT -8
Sound like newbies to computing platform. Didn't do backup before upgrading. Slow internet service shouldn't try the first few days. How "old" is old? Me, upgraded 5S on the first day, no problem.
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Post by Since84 on Sept 18, 2015 2:40:48 GMT -8
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Post by Since84 on Sept 18, 2015 2:44:06 GMT -8
I upgraded all iOS devices (iPhone 6, iPhone 4, iPad 2) immediately and a friends iPhone 5 during the debate. No problems with any of them. Must be my magic touch.
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Post by CdnPhoto on Sept 18, 2015 3:09:05 GMT -8
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Post by incorrigible on Sept 18, 2015 4:32:47 GMT -8
Saw this on SA this AM:
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Post by rezonate on Sept 18, 2015 4:44:19 GMT -8
Did the upgrade to iOS 9 across the portfolio of devices. No real problems, except where anything iCloud is concerned. The roundtrip of photos to Mac, specifically, is a total disaster. Especially when managing "iCloud Family" accounts. Totally NOT grandmother-proof. It is good that Apple dropped their storage plan prices, because my libraries need those bigger plans. Here's hoping the El Capitan upgrade in a couple weeks fixes iCloud issues.
Still fingers crossed for WatchOS 2 "soon".
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Post by phoebear611 on Sept 18, 2015 5:47:24 GMT -8
I am not technologically saavy and have never had nor did I have an issue this time upgrading. Are Applelonians just whiners or what?! Get over it already - geez!
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Post by ono on Sept 18, 2015 6:19:43 GMT -8
I updated my 5s via USB and it went fine. I updated iTunes to 12.3, first. Last evening I updated a 2nd 5s; again fine.
(I was sure to have backed up photos to iPhoto, and had iPhone backups to iCloud and Mac. A year or two ago, I did have an issue updating one iPhone, and had to buy a third party utility -iMazing.app- to recover things from a backup that iTunes simply would reject as invalid.)
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Sept 18, 2015 6:59:58 GMT -8
So... Market participants didn't want the Fed to raise rates because raising rates can slow down the economy and be bad for stocks.
No one expected the Fed to raise rates because of recent weak economic reports.
So then, the Fed doesn't raise rates and... Everything gets kneecapped.
Makes sense.
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Post by BillH on Sept 18, 2015 7:12:35 GMT -8
I've been visiting MacDailyNews for years and still don't have any idea who owns or operates the site but usually agree with their "take" on many of the subjects. Here's their take re: the iOS 9 "crashes". MacDailyNews Take: Anecdotal evidence with no hard numbers of those affected, or proof that anyone was actually affected, along with calling downloading issues due to huge traffuc reeks of a hit-piece to us. We’ll keep an eye on it, but trolling Apple support pages and Twitter to gin up an article makes us suspicious. It’s a cheap, easy way to generate negative articles. So, the nucleus of this “iOS 9 crashing news” is a Reuters piece that mis-terms downloading failures due to massive network demand as “crashing.” If you see this “news” elsewhere, check to see if it’s based on this Reuters article. For example: Echo Chamber articles based on this Reuters article: • The Express • Umbergizmo • The Bristol Post • Newsmax • Jakarta Globe Next, there’ll be an article from some hack mentioning how many articles are reporting this “issue.” One source, Reuters, and many reprints/rewrites. If some sound, factual evidence is presented, or Apple affirms, then there is an issue. If not, what was the impetus for this article, Reuters?
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Post by firestorm on Sept 18, 2015 7:14:35 GMT -8
So... Market participants didn't want the Fed to raise rates because raising rates can slow down the economy and be bad for stocks. No one expected the Fed to raise rates because of recent weak economic reports. So then, the Fed doesn't raise rates and... Everything gets kneecapped. Makes sense. The market was going to be kneecapped either way. The economy isn't strong enough to sustain a rate increase = panic. The economy is so strong that a rate increase is necessary to slow it down = panic. Pathetic.
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Post by rickag on Sept 18, 2015 7:42:47 GMT -8
So... Market participants didn't want the Fed to raise rates because raising rates can slow down the economy and be bad for stocks. No one expected the Fed to raise rates because of recent weak economic reports. So then, the Fed doesn't raise rates and... Everything gets kneecapped. Makes sense. The market was going to be kneecapped either way. The economy isn't strong enough to sustain a rate increase = panic. The economy is so strong that a rate increase is necessary to slow it down = panic. Pathetic. I would LOL, but my portfolio prevents me. Can't win no matter what. It's like a bad vaudeville act.
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Post by mace on Sept 18, 2015 7:52:45 GMT -8
I updated my 5s via USB and it went fine. I updated iTunes to 12.3, first. Last evening I updated a 2nd 5s; again fine. (I was sure to have backed up photos to iPhoto, and had iPhone backups to iCloud and Mac. A year or two ago, I did have an issue updating one iPhone, and had to buy a third party utility -iMazing.app- to recover things from a backup that iTunes simply would reject as invalid.) My iTunes screwed up. It shows Unable to connect to iTunes purchases whenever I launch iTunes. Is only a message... I can't find anything wrong. All content are available and playable.
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Post by mace on Sept 18, 2015 7:55:37 GMT -8
So... Market participants didn't want the Fed to raise rates because raising rates can slow down the economy and be bad for stocks. No one expected the Fed to raise rates because of recent weak economic reports. So then, the Fed doesn't raise rates and... Everything gets kneecapped. Makes sense. Market expected no rate increase and has rallied so upon announcement, correct. If Fed has increased, market could crash, say, S&P down few percentage points as opposed to less than 1% correction.
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Post by nagrani on Sept 18, 2015 8:12:39 GMT -8
Mace - what's your current EW count. Are we in wave 5?
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Post by BillH on Sept 18, 2015 8:21:41 GMT -8
I just think the markets wrong about the sustainability of the current economy. (you would probably be well advised not to pay to much heed to an architect emulating an economist) I'll probably get knee-capped for this but I actually think this administration has done a pretty good job of providing a framework for sustainable growth without the built in bubbles of the recent past. Personally, I would probably have told Wall Street to pound salt and have them eat their mortgage mess but that isn't what happened. They've done what they could to re-inflate the housing sector which seems to have mostly worked leaving fewer underwater as evidenced by the declining defaults. The banks seem to be more cautious with business loans and even the venture capital guys SEEM to be a little more prudent where they're placing their bets. My brother goes crazy when I suggest that they had no option on raising taxes on the wealthy as that's where the money is. Easy for me to say as I'm funded by cap gains these days. I still have a lot of confidence in this countries ability to generate new ideas and grow employment. JD has spoken often about the real unemployment rate and there's no denying that those unwilling to learn new skills or take a pay cut will be sitting on the sidelines but the kids at least should be well aware that our old manufacturing economy isn't available (sadly) and thus adjust accordingly. As for AAPL, they continue to add the bits of core technology that when tied together will be centric to our lives from wake up to lights out. It's possible that Apple is very happy to leave everyone worrying and focused on the phone as they develop all the technologies that will surround us whether delivered by phone or other devices. Will we ever get the PE that we think we deserve? Have we ever?
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Post by macglenn on Sept 18, 2015 8:52:47 GMT -8
I updated my 5s via USB and it went fine. I updated iTunes to 12.3, first. Last evening I updated a 2nd 5s; again fine. (I was sure to have backed up photos to iPhoto, and had iPhone backups to iCloud and Mac. A year or two ago, I did have an issue updating one iPhone, and had to buy a third party utility -iMazing.app- to recover things from a backup that iTunes simply would reject as invalid.) My iTunes screwed up. It shows Unable to connect to iTunes purchases whenever I launch iTunes. Is only a message... I can't find anything wrong. All content are available and playable. My iTunes is doing the same thing today and I didn't do any software updates, so it's probably a temporary glitch
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Post by bud777 on Sept 18, 2015 8:57:34 GMT -8
I posted this to yesterday's forum, but it was pretty late. It was interesting to see the 2.46 drop after the fed announced no change to interest rates. Do you think that people were taking positions in Apple as a equity safe haven, anticipating a sell off and then unwinding that after it didn't happen? Or are we just seeing a continuation of noise caused by traders?
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Post by Luckychoices on Sept 18, 2015 9:12:18 GMT -8
I just think the markets wrong about the sustainability of the current economy. (you would probably be well advised not to pay to much heed to an architect emulating an economist) I'll probably get knee-capped for this but I actually think this administration has done a pretty good job of providing a framework for sustainable growth without the built in bubbles of the recent past. Personally, I would probably have told Wall Street to pound salt and have them eat their mortgage mess but that isn't what happened. They've done what they could to re-inflate the housing sector which seems to have mostly worked leaving fewer underwater as evidenced by the declining defaults. The banks seem to be more cautious with business loans and even the venture capital guys SEEM to be a little more prudent where they're placing their bets. My brother goes crazy when I suggest that they had no option on raising taxes on the wealthy as that's where the money is. Easy for me to say as I'm funded by cap gains these days. I still have a lot of confidence in this countries ability to generate new ideas and grow employment. JD has spoken often about the real unemployment rate and there's no denying that those unwilling to learn new skills or take a pay cut will be sitting on the sidelines but the kids at least should be well aware that our old manufacturing economy isn't available (sadly) and thus adjust accordingly. As for AAPL, they continue to add the bits of core technology that when tied together will be centric to our lives from wake up to lights out. It's possible that Apple is very happy to leave everyone worrying and focused on the phone as they develop all the technologies that will surround us whether delivered by phone or other devices. Will we ever get the PE that we think we deserve? Have we ever? There are zero reasons for you to get "knee-capped" for expressing an opinion on this board because stating opinions about Apple/Wall Steet/etc should be an option for us all. Plus, refreshingly (and what should be an example for other members to emulate), you didn't state your opinion as an indisputable fact. You prefaced it by, essentially, "I think". Someone knee-capping a member for stating an opinion is saying more about the knee-capper than the knee-cappee (yes, I made up a word).
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Post by chinacat on Sept 18, 2015 9:32:49 GMT -8
My iTunes screwed up. It shows Unable to connect to iTunes purchases whenever I launch iTunes. Is only a message... I can't find anything wrong. All content are available and playable. Ditto; no problems with IOS 9 so far, though.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 18, 2015 9:38:09 GMT -8
The current economy presents many challenges going forward, but I'm with BillH on some of the framework that has been built. One very key metric is how we as a nation are positioned to withstand the "next" downturn. The Banks are much better capitalized than in 2008, as are the insurance companies and corporate balance sheets are quite strong. The Consumer has paid down debt, is much less leveraged (in general) than in 2008 and while employment could be better, there are signs that key economic sectors are having trouble finding skilled people. I wish, as a nation, we were committed to better training and development of skilled positions...and I would absolutely support a large increase in improving infrastructure. Not makework tasks, but the electric grid, bridges, airports, schools. These projects need to be done and they put people to work. I've been affiliated with a helmets to hardhats program where I live and it has been reassuring to see the number of vets being absorbed into the construction trades.
JMHO, but as a nation we still incent all the wrong ways when it comes to job creation. So much could be done with a tax rewrite...but we have been over this issue before, as it relates to Apple and so much more.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 18, 2015 10:08:17 GMT -8
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 18, 2015 10:09:22 GMT -8
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Post by Luckychoices on Sept 18, 2015 10:13:10 GMT -8
The current economy presents many challenges going forward, but I'm with BillH on some of the framework that has been built. One very key metric is how we as a nation are positioned to withstand the "next" downturn. The Banks are much better capitalized than in 2008, as are the insurance companies and corporate balance sheets are quite strong. The Consumer has paid down debt, is much less leveraged (in general) than in 2008 and while employment could be better, there are signs that key economic sectors are having trouble finding skilled people. I wish, as a nation, we were committed to better training and development of skilled positions...and I would absolutely support a large increase in improving infrastructure. Not makework tasks, but the electric grid, bridges, airports, schools. These projects need to be done and they put people to work. I've been affiliated with a helmets to hardhats program where I live and it has been reassuring to see the number of vets being absorbed into the construction trades. JMHO, but as a nation we still incent all the wrong ways when it comes to job creation. So much could be done with a tax rewrite...but we have been over this issue before, as it relates to Apple and so much more. Red, I strongly agree with your comment regarding this country's infrastructure. This link to the 2013 Report Card for America's Infrastructure, by ASCE (American Society of Civil Engineers), gives a clear and sobering look at the overdue maintenance needed for our deteriorated infrastructure. www.infrastructurereportcard.orgtl;dr
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Post by Luckychoices on Sept 18, 2015 10:35:45 GMT -8
Ad blocking is the killer feature. Check the top lists in the App Store. Worth every penny! I already bought Peace. Dive on in guys, the water is fine! (And fast!) I bought Peace this morning and before the morning was done, Marco Arment, the IOS developer of Peace, decided to get out of the ad blocking business. Bummer. Just doesn’t feel goodwww.marco.org/2015/09/18/just-doesnt-feel-good
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Sept 18, 2015 10:44:22 GMT -8
I already bought Peace. Dive on in guys, the water is fine! (And fast!) I bought Peace this morning and before the morning was done, Marco Arment, the IOS developer of Peace, decided to get out of the ad blocking business. Bummer. Just doesn’t feel goodwww.marco.org/2015/09/18/just-doesnt-feel-goodThe process of getting my refund for Peace was way more annoying than any web ads.
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Post by artman1033 on Sept 18, 2015 10:58:24 GMT -8
The process of getting my refund for Peace was way more annoying than any web ads. WOW: Marco advised Ghostery. I installed. From this page alone, I have 40!!!!
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Post by osx10 on Sept 18, 2015 10:58:55 GMT -8
If Ghostery was the backend of the Peace app and that Whitelist is updated, won't the Peace App continue to work just fine?
Is there a place where someone can download apps that aren't in the App Store anymore?
Meant to get Peace this morning as the reviews were great.
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Post by artman1033 on Sept 18, 2015 11:13:33 GMT -8
If Ghostery was the backend of the Peace app and that Whitelist is updated, won't the Peace App continue to work just fine? Is there a place where someone can download apps that aren't in the App Store anymore? Meant to get Peace this morning as the reviews were great. I like ghostery. IMHO: Ghostery blocks everything you want to block. It is an extension, not an app. One has to enable it for Safari and Firefox individually. Which one makes the pages load faster, an extension or an app? I don't know. It works for me. I have NOW blocked everything after adjusting the app. We shall see.
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