Since84
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Post by Since84 on Oct 2, 2015 2:41:58 GMT -8
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Post by aaplcrazie on Oct 2, 2015 2:55:09 GMT -8
FYI Re the Tim Cook NPR Link: if you click the download button on the NPR page the link opens as an MP3 in Safari.
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Post by rickag on Oct 2, 2015 4:49:46 GMT -8
Jobs report dragging AAPL down.
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Oct 2, 2015 6:08:32 GMT -8
So max pain should help the stock recover today? Seems like put buyers deserve to be burned as much as call buyers...
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Post by artman1033 on Oct 2, 2015 6:13:57 GMT -8
DARN!
After downloading el capitan, my iTunes has FROZE!
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Talked to Support.
Forced Quit iTunes. Opened iTunes with shift key pushed at same time. Emptied Itunes cache.
iTunes now works.
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Post by nagrani on Oct 2, 2015 6:42:48 GMT -8
What an epic battle going on right now with the spy
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Post by rmhe1999 on Oct 2, 2015 7:11:23 GMT -8
Anyone a CNBC PRO subscriber? They are running a story, "Why is Apple having such a bad week?"
I would LOVE to know what the "pros" have to say. (s)
No link being provided, easy to find if you have PRO access.
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Post by artman1033 on Oct 2, 2015 8:05:06 GMT -8
Retail chains are gearing up for the holiday shopping bonanza by stocking all the gear you’ll want to gift your loved ones (or buy for yourself). That includes the Apple Watch, which came out in April but is only now starting to pop up on store shelves. Target is the latest to start selling Apple’s smartwatch, beginning Oct. 18 online and Oct. 25 in-store. The retailer will carry both 38mm and 42mm versions of the Sport and stainless steel models in various colors, including rose gold. Altogether, Target will stock about 20 watch options, though only some will be available in its 1,800 stores. The company will sell all 20 models online. Target said Friday that the watch is “ expected to be one of the season’s hottest gift items,” echoing Best Buy CEO Hubert Joly’s sentiments in August when he said the chain will carry Apple Watch in all of its stores this fall. Joly said demand for the watch has been strong both in stores and online, and Target is hoping to get a piece of that action in time for the holidays. Sprint and T-Mobile are also selling the watch as an accessory to the new iPhones. Target also just rolled out a new price-matching policy this week, so if a competing retailer starts offering discounts on the Apple Watch in-store or online as part of a holiday promotion, the company will match that lower price. (That policy also includes membership clubs like Sam’s Club and Costco.) www.macworld.com/article/2988856/gadgets/you-can-finally-buy-an-apple-watch-at-target-this-month.html?utm_content=buffer928a1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Post by plcm123 on Oct 2, 2015 8:30:14 GMT -8
I wish Apple could just take the $210billion right now and retire 1.9billion shares (@$110/sh). They can just borrow the $70billion money (with low interest which they can pay off easily in 1.5yrs) to pay for the 35% US income tax. This way they get to buy the shares back at ridiculously low price, not to mention the huge immediate saving in dividends. Anyone see fault in this logic?
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Post by Volvocoupe on Oct 2, 2015 8:42:45 GMT -8
I wish Apple could just take the $210billion right now and retire 1.9billion shares (@$110/sh). They can just borrow the $70billion money (with low interest which they can pay off easily in 1.5yrs) to pay for the 35% US income tax. This way they get to buy the shares back at ridiculously low price, not to mention the huge immediate saving in dividends. Anyone see fault in this logic? Patience grasshopper......
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Post by rickag on Oct 2, 2015 8:56:36 GMT -8
I wish Apple could just take the $210billion right now and retire 1.9billion shares (@$110/sh). They can just borrow the $70billion money (with low interest which they can pay off easily in 1.5yrs) to pay for the 35% US income tax. This way they get to buy the shares back at ridiculously low price, not to mention the huge immediate saving in dividends. Anyone see fault in this logic? Me too, but won't work. Buying $210 billion in one day may cause a slight increase in price. I share your frustration.
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Post by rickag on Oct 2, 2015 8:58:40 GMT -8
Would love to see a rip your face off short squeeze. + 1 Now that Apple could do with buybacks. But they won't,
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Post by plcm123 on Oct 2, 2015 9:17:48 GMT -8
I wish Apple could just take the $210billion right now and retire 1.9billion shares (@$110/sh). They can just borrow the $70billion money (with low interest which they can pay off easily in 1.5yrs) to pay for the 35% US income tax. This way they get to buy the shares back at ridiculously low price, not to mention the huge immediate saving in dividends. Anyone see fault in this logic? Me too, but won't work. Buying $210 billion in one day may cause a slight increase in price. I share your frustration. Well I meant for the long run and not just to increase the price. Since they planned to buy back as many shares as possible, they might as well execute it while it is cheap.
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Post by plcm123 on Oct 2, 2015 9:21:23 GMT -8
I wish Apple could just take the $210billion right now and retire 1.9billion shares (@$110/sh). They can just borrow the $70billion money (with low interest which they can pay off easily in 1.5yrs) to pay for the 35% US income tax. This way they get to buy the shares back at ridiculously low price, not to mention the huge immediate saving in dividends. Anyone see fault in this logic? Patience grasshopper...... Oh I got plenty of patience, haven't sold a single share since 2003.
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Post by sponge on Oct 2, 2015 9:23:28 GMT -8
If Apple does not announce $20billion in buy backs this last quarter, then they don't really exhibit any big hurry.
The same reasons institutions are not buying.
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Oct 2, 2015 10:16:45 GMT -8
So you're saying they should pay 35% tax in order to reduce share count by about 33%?
Seems like a net neutral to me.
Not to mention the PE hit from the resulting narrative of "zero cash but now laden with debt."
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Post by mace on Oct 2, 2015 10:37:14 GMT -8
I wish Apple could just take the $210billion right now and retire 1.9billion shares (@$110/sh). They can just borrow the $70billion money (with low interest which they can pay off easily in 1.5yrs) to pay for the 35% US income tax. This way they get to buy the shares back at ridiculously low price, not to mention the huge immediate saving in dividends. Anyone see fault in this logic? Me too, but won't work. Buying $210 billion in one day may cause a slight increase in price. I share your frustration. You mean they didn't do that at $92?
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Post by plcm123 on Oct 2, 2015 10:38:45 GMT -8
So you're saying they should pay 35% tax in order to reduce share count by about 33%? Seems like a net neutral to me. Not to mention the PE hit from the resulting narrative of "zero cash but now laden with debt." Last time I checked Mr. Market doesn't care much about the PE and the debt. They will be saving a bundle on dividends, and paying 35% tax makes all taxpayers happy.
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Post by dreamRaj on Oct 2, 2015 10:40:18 GMT -8
Nice to see a fight back up to HOD. It's Friday. Hope it stays up.
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Post by Volvocoupe on Oct 2, 2015 10:54:27 GMT -8
Patience grasshopper...... Oh I got plenty of patience, haven't sold a single share since 2003. Nicely done
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Post by plcm123 on Oct 2, 2015 11:03:11 GMT -8
By the way, I just want to say how much I love this forum. I've been a lurker here for a long time since MacObserver (sorry to mention that name). Though I enjoy reading your discussion about AAPL on a daily basis, what I look forward most are the words of wisdom and the great humor that aren't related to AAPL. I could tell there are a lot of intellectual people here with lots of life experiences. I hope I'm not alone, but I think it is a wonderful all-around educational tool. So, please keep it up everyone. I know it takes an effort to contribute each post, so thank you all :-)
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Post by nagrani on Oct 2, 2015 11:23:28 GMT -8
Mace - what's your current count?
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Post by mace on Oct 2, 2015 11:24:51 GMT -8
Bullish harami cross follows by a bullish hammer candlestick pattern. Feel good. Feel even better. Looking forward for it to be above $112.50, expect big leaps forwards shortly above.
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Post by rob_london on Oct 2, 2015 11:26:22 GMT -8
Interesting company Apple have just acquired: www.vocaliq.comI recall that Apple opened a research office in Cambridge, England about 12-18 months ago. I am sure they are forging close links with the University of Cambridge and the many high technology companies in the area. Will we see an Apple Robot within the next 10 years? www.vocaliq.com/solutions/robotics/
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Post by mace on Oct 2, 2015 11:26:23 GMT -8
Mace - what's your current count? Always asking for count? Primary degree or higher count remains unchanged. Wave five. Alternate count is in Primary degree wave 3 but I would rather not be so optimistic. Last two days appears to be a wave one-two, now in wave three. Need to shoot above $112.50 to release the bull. Don't know the correct degree but doesn't matter.
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Post by nagrani on Oct 2, 2015 11:36:45 GMT -8
Yep
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Post by rickag on Oct 2, 2015 11:59:54 GMT -8
Uh oh. Ken Goldberg wrote for The Street that AAPL is headed to $60 +/- $5. That would be a P/E around 6 - 7 not including Apple's pile of cash. Do these idiots even think at all before writing such nonsense?
I believe the answer is a resounding NO THEY DON'T.
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 2, 2015 12:21:59 GMT -8
So you're saying they should pay 35% tax in order to reduce share count by about 33%? Seems like a net neutral to me. Not to mention the PE hit from the resulting narrative of "zero cash but now laden with debt." Last time I checked Mr. Market doesn't care much about the PE and the debt. They will be saving a bundle on dividends, and paying 35% tax makes all taxpayers happy. Im a taxpayer, and triple-taxation taxation doesn't make me happy. It enrages me.
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Post by rob_london on Oct 2, 2015 12:31:54 GMT -8
In other news:
Porsche Automobil Holdings SE: TTM P/E ratio: 3.9
One year share price change: Down 42.5%
The current market capitalisation of Porsche is only twice the amount Apple paid for Beats headphones...
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Post by nagrani on Oct 2, 2015 12:49:06 GMT -8
CNBC having a pro subscription is like Walmart having a VIP playboy lounge
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