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Post by lovemyipad on Oct 31, 2012 14:46:55 GMT -8
I live in NYC. basically below 39th street you are stuck in the 1800's. No Power, No Cell Service, No Hot water, no subway. It's kinda scary at night, actually very scary at night. Pitch black in NYC with minimal people around and nothing open is pretty terrifying. Above 39th street it's back to modern civilization. I live on the Lower East Side. Walked the 60 blocks to work so i have internet here. Wanted to check email and put a trade or two in. spoonman, that sounds very scary indeed!! Hopefully 1800s will warp back to 2012 soon!!
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Post by wheeles on Oct 31, 2012 14:48:17 GMT -8
On what day do you need to hold AAPL overnight to be eligible for the dividend?
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Post by chinacat on Oct 31, 2012 14:53:01 GMT -8
From the Apple Investor Relations page:
Dividend Declared On October 25, 2012, Apple’s Board of Directors declared a cash dividend of $2.65 per share of the Company’s common stock. The dividend is payable on November 15, 2012, to shareholders of record as of the close of business on November 12, 2012.
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Post by wheeles on Oct 31, 2012 14:57:40 GMT -8
From the Apple Investor Relations page: Dividend Declared On October 25, 2012, Apple’s Board of Directors declared a cash dividend of $2.65 per share of the Company’s common stock. The dividend is payable on November 15, 2012, to shareholders of record as of the close of business on November 12, 2012. Is the 15th the ex-div date, or merely the date on which settlement occurs for the trades on the 12th?
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Post by chinacat on Oct 31, 2012 15:05:26 GMT -8
From the Apple Investor Relations page: Dividend Declared On October 25, 2012, Apple’s Board of Directors declared a cash dividend of $2.65 per share of the Company’s common stock. The dividend is payable on November 15, 2012, to shareholders of record as of the close of business on November 12, 2012. Is the 15th the ex-div date, or merely the date on which settlement occurs for the trades on the 12th? From my experience last quarter, the 15th will be the date that the money shows up in our account, based on holding at the close on the 12th. I believe this makes the 15th the ex-dividend date, ie. buying on that date does not get the dividend for this quarter.
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Post by spoonman on Oct 31, 2012 15:05:43 GMT -8
In response to the 10B of capital expenditures.
They should be starting construction on their headquarters this coming year. Prob more data facilities as well.
Must be nice to have the ability to spend 10B in a year..haha
I did notice they increased current deferred revenue almost $2B YoY. That's 2B more amortized onto the income statement over the next 12 months. Every Billion counts!
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Post by bryanyc on Oct 31, 2012 15:41:36 GMT -8
Another day, another lower low, and lower high. Hard to say much positive about the trend at the moment. I'll try: today we closed over the open by a few cents, a spinning top.
Things are a bit weird here in Manhattan, people stopping by to take showers and charge computers. I'm on 38th street, so a few blocks above the blackout line. There is no clear idea of when power, subways etc will be back on line. Many shops are closed because people cannot get into the city.
I think we are going to have bad weather financially through the election. I have to say I am po'd about the supply issue with the mini and it is this supply issue that is driving the stock down. They may have bitten off more than they can chew with this refresh so close to Christmas. I just can't see how they can supply enough for the Holidays with what seems to be a slow ramp up. But who knows? In the absence of knowing uncertainty and doubt reign, as usual.
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Post by lovemyipad on Oct 31, 2012 16:03:13 GMT -8
Is the 15th the ex-div date, or merely the date on which settlement occurs for the trades on the 12th? From my experience last quarter, the 15th will be the date that the money shows up in our account, based on holding at the close on the 12th. I believe this makes the 15th the ex-dividend date, ie. buying on that date does not get the dividend for this quarter. Hmmmm...my brain's fried, but I'm thinking if the record date is the 12th, then you need settled shares in your account on that date (to be "on record") in order to receive the dividend...so with three business days for settlement, subtract from the record date...
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Post by tuffett on Oct 31, 2012 16:06:21 GMT -8
^ that's how I understand it as well.
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Post by joel90069 on Oct 31, 2012 16:08:15 GMT -8
From my experience last quarter, the 15th will be the date that the money shows up in our account, based on holding at the close on the 12th. I believe this makes the 15th the ex-dividend date, ie. buying on that date does not get the dividend for this quarter. Hmmmm...my brain's fried, but I'm thinking if the record date is the 12th, then you need settled shares in your account on that date (to be "on record") in order to receive the dividend...so with three business days for settlement, the ex-div date would be two business days PRIOR to the record date... Ex-dividend date is November 7.
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Post by lovemyipad on Oct 31, 2012 16:22:57 GMT -8
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Post by onemoreanimal on Oct 31, 2012 16:42:14 GMT -8
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Post by macziggy on Oct 31, 2012 16:47:11 GMT -8
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Post by johng on Oct 31, 2012 16:59:12 GMT -8
I bought my last dip today. From here, I need to see a breakout before I add any more. What did you pick up and best of luck!!! I'm playing the cautious role here standing pat for now. JohnG
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 31, 2012 17:13:56 GMT -8
Even Kass must now think AAPL is a bargain at these levels. He just tweeted: "I have taken a trading LONG rental in APPLE under $590." Well, there is the sign. He has been right and now shifts to long, I hate him (in a AAPL fan way), but he has been right. I have looked at his market calls many times over the last several years and he has been spot on when he has said the market lows were in. Kass has been dead wrong about $AAPL for many years, Mark, which Andy Zaky has well chronicled. Kass' Apple fundamental case is complete bullshit, as tends to be the case with most analysts who do not cover Apple full time. Most recently, Kass yelled "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, and was "right" about the stampede, but not about any fire. And if you see Kass on CNBC touting Apple in the near future, you can bet he's talking his book, like the amoral mercenary that he is. It's fine for a trader to switch sides quickly. But Kass has been arguing a bad fundie case for Apple to anyone who would listen. Suddenly it's a buy?
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Post by jeffi on Oct 31, 2012 18:15:01 GMT -8
Well, there is the sign. He has been right and now shifts to long, I hate him (in a AAPL fan way), but he has been right. I have looked at his market calls many times over the last several years and he has been spot on when he has said the market lows were in. Kass has been dead wrong about $AAPL for many years, Mark, which Andy Zaky has well chronicled. Kass' Apple fundamental case is complete bullshit, as tends to be the case with most analysts who do not cover Apple full time. Most recently, Kass yelled "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, and was "right" about the stampede, but not about any fire. And if you see Kass on CNBC touting Apple in the near future, you can bet he's talking his book, like the amoral mercenary that he is. It's fine for a trader to switch sides quickly. But Kass has been arguing a bad fundie case for Apple to anyone who would listen. Suddenly it's a buy? Kass has already closed his position. He trades many stocks based on overbought/ oversold. He is not a believer in Apple's fundamentals. He does not understand why Apple is successful and why they will continue to be. I email him regularly and will try to educate him about Apple. He is good and helps me make money outside of Apple.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 31, 2012 18:40:32 GMT -8
Kass has been dead wrong about $AAPL for many years, Mark, which Andy Zaky has well chronicled. Kass' Apple fundamental case is complete bullshit, as tends to be the case with most analysts who do not cover Apple full time. And if you see Kass on CNBC touting Apple in the near future, you can bet he's talking his book, like the amoral mercenary that he is. It's fine for a trader to switch sides quickly. But Kass has been arguing a bad fundie case for Apple to anyone who would listen. Suddenly it's a buy? JD, I know Kass has been wrong many times in the past about Apple/AAPL. This time he got it right. Like I said, his market calls (S&P) the last couple of years have been very good. AZ made his call and has had to eat some crow. Making calls of a bottom are difficult. I have been hoping for a bottom, I don't have a clue. When it broke below the 625 trend line I gave up. Apple guided to 52 billion, the fundie case is solid. I still don't get the share price. After todays close, if you remove the cash/share ($128) 595 - 128 = 467/44.15 = 10.57 p/e. That is a true p/e. Unfortunately for us, Apple is penalized for its cash, not rewarded. There are still people out there who think Apple would make a large acquisition. Ha, never gonna happen.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 31, 2012 18:44:41 GMT -8
I know I am overzealous with my desire for punishment of criminals, but this guy should be hanging from the horns of the bull on WS. I hope they put him a cell with very loving and affectionate serial rapist.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 19:41:44 GMT -8
Maybe AAPL should use 100B of their hoard to buy back shares...its certainly more worthwhile to shareholders to do that and reduce the float than have it sit around earning 1% interest. I'd also prefer that to a dividend. If I wanted to buy a Dividend stock, I'd look at something like McDonalds or Walmart.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 20:09:38 GMT -8
Maybe AAPL should use 100B of their hoard to buy back shares...its certainly more worthwhile to shareholders to do that and reduce the float than have it sit around earning 1% interest. I'd also prefer that to a dividend. If I wanted to buy a Dividend stock, I'd look at something like McDonalds or Walmart. Kind of crazy to contemplate, but Apples Cash hoard actually was the cause of last quarters "miss" - with the currency hedging on that massive pot going against it. Apples actual earnings would have been $9+ if it did not have the hundred billion in cash sitting overseas. Strange but true (AFAIK). I am in favour of a massive share buyback - they can easily buyback 10% of outstanding stock - but I would prefer it happens after a US tax amnesty (on repatriation of Foreign Cash)
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Post by newton on Oct 31, 2012 20:15:32 GMT -8
I bought 10 shares at $595 today. I hope I don't regret it!
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 31, 2012 20:26:43 GMT -8
Maybe AAPL should use 100B of their hoard to buy back shares...its certainly more worthwhile to shareholders to do that and reduce the float than have it sit around earning 1% interest. I'd also prefer that to a dividend. If I wanted to buy a Dividend stock, I'd look at something like McDonalds or Walmart. I have read the entire conference call, I believe the share repurchase is going to grow. Since the diluted share count is not going to grow anymore the EPS number will rise accordingly. As I have been saying for several years, buy back to 900 mil outstanding, then split the stock. That would be the end of the shorts as they would be on fire with no water in sight.
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Post by jeffi on Oct 31, 2012 22:01:11 GMT -8
Kass has been dead wrong about $AAPL for many years, Mark, which Andy Zaky has well chronicled. Kass' Apple fundamental case is complete bullshit, as tends to be the case with most analysts who do not cover Apple full time. And if you see Kass on CNBC touting Apple in the near future, you can bet he's talking his book, like the amoral mercenary that he is. It's fine for a trader to switch sides quickly. But Kass has been arguing a bad fundie case for Apple to anyone who would listen. Suddenly it's a buy? JD, I know Kass has been wrong many times in the past about Apple/AAPL. This time he got it right. Like I said, his market calls (S&P) the last couple of years have been very good. AZ made his call and has had to eat some crow. Making calls of a bottom are difficult. I have been hoping for a bottom, I don't have a clue. When it broke below the 625 trend line I gave up. Apple guided to 52 billion, the fundie case is solid. I still don't get the share price. After todays close, if you remove the cash/share ($128) 595 - 128 = 467/44.15 = 10.57 p/e. That is a true p/e. Unfortunately for us, Apple is penalized for its cash, not rewarded. There are still people out there who think Apple would make a large acquisition. Ha, never gonna happen. Kass is already out. He was long less than one day. He has never been correct on his Apple calls for an extended period. Never.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 22:03:47 GMT -8
I'm getting ready to hire an attorney in Argentina. Nothing bad, I'm trying to buy a car and an attorney is cheaper than flying down, and I'll require an attorney any way.
So, anybody live in Buenos Aires?
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