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Post by Mav on Nov 28, 2012 13:35:38 GMT -8
For the record, I've always preferred buybacks to divvies in AAPL's case. Literally more bang for the buck (even though it's not actually handed out to shareholders).
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Post by lovemyipad on Nov 28, 2012 13:49:42 GMT -8
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Post by rutgersguy92 on Nov 28, 2012 14:17:23 GMT -8
FWIW, Jason Schwarz did some homework showing that the Friday/Monday thing is back working again. Nothing but bad things happen on Tuesday thru Thursday - I think this week so far is testimony to that- so he's saying that most of the gains happen from Friday to Monday.
On another note, I don't think we could say we're back in an uptrend with total certainty, despite the 85 or points to the good in the last couple of weeks, especially when we have to watch out for Avi's possible drop to 500 again. Would be nice to go back to the days of BTFD. Today would have been nice to follow this wisdom, but I'm with Mark about being afraid of what's on the other side of 572.
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Post by qualitywte on Nov 28, 2012 14:17:33 GMT -8
Just sent my email to TC asking him to do a buy back. So did I.
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Post by JDSoCal on Nov 28, 2012 14:18:38 GMT -8
Oh great, this story again?
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Post by Mav on Nov 28, 2012 14:26:38 GMT -8
2 week backorder hardly sounds like disaster.
More like early-stage international rollout.
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Post by wheeles on Nov 28, 2012 14:36:34 GMT -8
Weekly options are f'ing KILLING this stock's chances to move up. And down. As an equal opportunities trader, I've seen options expiration levitate AAPL in a downtrend as well as keep it suppressed in an uptrend. They suck volatility. It works both ways.
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Post by wheeles on Nov 28, 2012 14:41:18 GMT -8
I do not consider Citi initiating a buy to be more than a blip. There are two companies' analysts that I don't trust as they assist their own trades, and that is GS and Citi. They tend to mark the top or bottom of a move. I do have a feeling that Citi's recent one was marking the top of a move.
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Post by lovemyipad on Nov 28, 2012 14:43:51 GMT -8
Weekly options are f'ing KILLING this stock's chances to move up. And down. As an equal opportunities trader, I've seen options expiration levitate AAPL in a downtrend as well as keep it suppressed in an uptrend. They suck volatility. It works both ways. +1 What Birdie said.
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Post by wheeles on Nov 28, 2012 14:44:21 GMT -8
Just sent my email to TC asking him to do a buy back. So did I. No disrespect, but do you honestly think that TC is going to pay any attention to requests to commence a buyback? They do own the world's largest hedge fund, and are likely going to take their advice on when to buy back as opposed to some random person that sent in an email.
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Post by bloodylongaapl on Nov 28, 2012 15:00:57 GMT -8
Mercel - two AAPL catalysts coming up that I can think of. iPhone in China with resultant news (remember last years unrest?). Also a snippet today that Apple has 71% market share in China tablets; no iPad mini over there yet, but expected in December also. thenextweb.com/asia/2012/11/02/as-the-ipad-mini-lands-in-hong-kong-mainland-china-launch-not-expected-until-december/Re the buyback discussion, who knows maybe this is underway and we'll hear about it on Jan CC. See below transcript from Oct CC. I don't know what "securities laws" say, but I read this as saying that Apple had their wallet ready at that point. "In addition to shares purchased through the accelerated share repurchase program, we may also purchase shares in open-market transactions in compliance with all applicable securities laws." Stay long. Stay foolish.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 15:18:18 GMT -8
Weekly options are f'ing KILLING this stock's chances to move up. And down. As an equal opportunities trader, I've seen options expiration levitate AAPL in a downtrend as well as keep it suppressed in an uptrend. They suck volatility. It works both ways. Both can, but from my corner, calls have limited Apple's rise more than puts have levitated AAPL.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 15:21:03 GMT -8
Mercel - two AAPL catalysts coming up that I can think of. iPhone in China with resultant news (remember last years unrest?). Also a snippet today that Apple has 71% market share in China tablets; no iPad mini over there yet, but expected in December also. thenextweb.com/asia/2012/11/02/as-the-ipad-mini-lands-in-hong-kong-mainland-china-launch-not-expected-until-december/Re the buyback discussion, who knows maybe this is underway and we'll hear about it on Jan CC. See below transcript from Oct CC. I don't know what "securities laws" say, but I read this as saying that Apple had their wallet ready at that point. "In addition to shares purchased through the accelerated share repurchase program, we may also purchase shares in open-market transactions in compliance with all applicable securities laws." Stay long. Stay foolish. I'll take any and all catalysts at this point. Toni Sacconaghi (cough-cough) has whispered on CNBC before re: Apple plans.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 15:21:47 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 15:37:23 GMT -8
No disrespect, but do you honestly think that TC is going to pay any attention to requests to commence a buyback? They do own the world's largest hedge fund, and are likely going to take their advice on when to buy back as opposed to some random person that sent in an email. Perhaps. But seemingly insignificant things can become much bigger, as the below rhyme illustrates: For want of a nail the shoe was lost. For want of a shoe the horse was lost. For want of a horse the rider was lost. For want of a rider the battle was lost. For want of a battle the kingdom was lost. And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
We're just picking up the nail...
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Post by Tetrachloride on Nov 28, 2012 15:42:26 GMT -8
I'd say there's a lot of nails and shoes that need finding and fixing. I'd like to see bugs and features shorn up in iTunes, OS X and iOS.
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Post by coma on Nov 28, 2012 15:42:34 GMT -8
For want of a nail the shoe was lost. For want of a shoe the horse was lost. For want of a horse the rider was lost. For want of a rider the battle was lost. For want of a battle the kingdom was lost. And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
We're just picking up the nail... I just hope it's a golden nail . . .
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Post by greedynoob on Nov 28, 2012 16:18:30 GMT -8
With enemies like this, who needs friends:
"Also in the meeting, Ballmer suggested that he had done all he could to drive the company's stagnant stock up, but it was not Microsoft's failures, but Wall Street's inability to recognize improvement that prevented investment growth."
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Post by artman1033 on Nov 28, 2012 16:23:28 GMT -8
The Apple and Microsoft store Tuesday at Noon at the MOA. The Microsoft store is about twice the interior size of the Apple store. According to a surface tablet salesman, the MOA store has the most traffic of all Microsoft stores. Tuesday is traditionally the slowest shopping day of the week. At ALL stores visited, there were more employees than customers.
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Post by Tetrachloride on Nov 28, 2012 16:30:21 GMT -8
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Post by lance on Nov 28, 2012 17:46:34 GMT -8
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Post by rosie on Nov 28, 2012 18:26:31 GMT -8
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Post by rutgersguy92 on Nov 28, 2012 18:40:33 GMT -8
There is a link at the bottom to another article about a Louise Yamada, who is reading the same tea leaves as Avi Gilbert.
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Post by Tetrachloride on Nov 28, 2012 19:06:51 GMT -8
Theoretically, this could be the right move.
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Post by lovemyipad on Nov 28, 2012 19:42:49 GMT -8
I'm travelling tomorrow. Please try not to kill each other!
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 28, 2012 19:49:25 GMT -8
I'm travelling tomorrow. Please try not to kill each other! No promises !
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Post by mbeauch on Nov 28, 2012 19:50:05 GMT -8
I'm travelling tomorrow. Please try not to kill each other! No promises !
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Post by JDSoCal on Nov 28, 2012 19:59:50 GMT -8
I'm travelling tomorrow. Please try not to kill each other!
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Post by rickag on Nov 28, 2012 20:09:56 GMT -8
I'm travelling tomorrow. Please try not to kill each other! Me, I was only contemplating suicide by Christmas lights. I imagine the eulogy to read something like Beloved husband and father of two had been despondent over the recent decline in his AAPL options but still risked life when he fell from his 30' extension ladder stretching out to his limit to hang the last "red" Christmas light at the highest peak on the roof line. His wife seem confused as he fell screaming at the top of his lungs "damn you EOs".
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 28, 2012 20:14:36 GMT -8
I'm travelling tomorrow. Please try not to kill each other! Me, I was only contemplating suicide by Christmas lights. I imagine the eulogy to read something like Beloved husband and father of two had been despondent over the recent decline in his AAPL options but still risked life when he fell from his 30' extension ladder stretching out to his limit to hang the last "red" Christmas light at the highest peak on the roof line. His wife seem confused as he fell screaming at the top of his lungs "damn you EOs". Glad it was a RED light. A noble sacrifice...
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