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Post by lance on Dec 10, 2012 6:41:57 GMT -8
All I hope is the stock doesn't fall too much more before these Jan earnings so I can hang on to see the results. I want apple to stick it to the doubters and analysts mainly cnbc and make that last 3 months look like the most overplayed shit in history. Just get a 15 EPS and shut these idiots up.
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 10, 2012 6:44:07 GMT -8
F€£¥!€£€>£~><|>#|>#€>,£€?'j,jbmh Easy for you to say. It hurts when I say it though.
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Post by Mav on Dec 10, 2012 6:45:00 GMT -8
Ridiculous. Even Redler is getting screechy on AAPL.
Yo guys? AAPL cannot hit the 470s or so and NOT spook the market. It's too influential.
Also? The trading is getting wild. The price changes are definitely whipsawing so far.
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Post by ibuyer on Dec 10, 2012 6:51:40 GMT -8
FWIW, most stocks and indices incl eurostoxx at high of day.
vxapl popped above 44. volume not that high
crossing fingers for flat. would that qualify for triple bottom if we were green for the day?
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 10, 2012 6:53:47 GMT -8
Ridiculous. Even Redler is getting screechy on AAPL. Yo guys? AAPL cannot hit the 470s or so and NOT spook the market. It's too influential. Also? The trading is getting wild. The price changes are definitely whipsawing so far. Mav, I agree with your premise, but the market and AAPL have been moving in different directions.
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 10, 2012 6:55:50 GMT -8
FWIW, most stocks and indices incl eurostoxx at high of day. vxapl popped above 44. volume not that high crossing fingers for flat. would that qualify for triple bottom if we were green for the day? The VXAPL is a fear gauge, the fear is very high.
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Post by Mav on Dec 10, 2012 6:57:21 GMT -8
AAPL hasn't gone under 500 yet, so it's not a premise I can test yet.
Did I just see a _$1_ tick? Who the hell can trade something this whippy without some type of limit order and a prayer?
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Post by Big Al on Dec 10, 2012 6:57:23 GMT -8
Ridiculous. Even Redler is getting screechy on AAPL. Yo guys? AAPL cannot hit the 470s or so and NOT spook the market. It's too influential. Also? The trading is getting wild. The price changes are definitely whipsawing so far. Mav, I agree with your premise, but the market and AAPL have been moving in different directions. I don't think that we will go to 470. Actually, I think that 500 will hold (in the sense that the stock price will not breach it decisively for longer than a couple of hours/days). But this is just a gut feeling.
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Post by Mav on Dec 10, 2012 6:58:44 GMT -8
Also, volume not that high? Uh, 5M ain't low.
Still too early to draw any conclusions from volume.
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Post by terps530 on Dec 10, 2012 7:01:44 GMT -8
i think there was 1 green tick before going back lower
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Post by Mav on Dec 10, 2012 7:06:19 GMT -8
Yup. Meaningless if 530 not reclaimed today tho IMHO
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Post by appledoc on Dec 10, 2012 7:07:06 GMT -8
Need a definitive break and hold of 532 if we are going to start moving up.
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 10, 2012 7:10:38 GMT -8
Need a definitive break and hold of 532 if we are going to start moving up. I do not see any move up without another washout. Man, can we just hit rewind 1 freakin week. DAMN!
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Post by wheeles on Dec 10, 2012 7:12:36 GMT -8
I got long once the world didn't totally fall apart at the open. Think we could see a bounce as the overeager shorts get a little bit squeezed.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 10, 2012 7:14:29 GMT -8
I got long once the world didn't totally fall apart at the open. Think we could see a bounce as the overeager shorts get a little bit squeezed. Wheeles do you think that if we break 525 we go much lower but if we can push thru 532 we have a chance for a nice bounce?
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Dec 10, 2012 7:16:12 GMT -8
Bought a few shares at 528. My first buy since the presumed absolute bottom of 550
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Post by wheeles on Dec 10, 2012 7:21:22 GMT -8
I got long once the world didn't totally fall apart at the open. Think we could see a bounce as the overeager shorts get a little bit squeezed. Wheeles do you think that if we break 525 we go much lower but if we can push thru 532 we have a chance for a nice bounce? Think the range is about right. Maybe 526-531. If we can get ourselves into green, then a bounce is on the cards. If we get stuck below 525, then we'll probably see a gradual move down. Right now we are in limbo. My 2m, 10m 1H trend lines are broken. 4H still intact, so we'll possibly go to that if we go higher. On the downside, then maybe 518, but that's just pulling numbers out of the air.
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Post by lance on Dec 10, 2012 7:25:27 GMT -8
AAPL has traded 4xtimes worse than the Nasdaq since near the highs for apple approx. 24.5% versus 6% down. How long can this discrepancy last?
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Post by appledoc on Dec 10, 2012 7:26:56 GMT -8
When everything says DOWN, don't try to play UP. Don't go against the grain.
I see 532 THEN 539 THEN 555 as the upside targets.
I see 518 THEN 505 as the downside targets.
So we're in no man's land right now. Hold pat.
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Post by wheeles on Dec 10, 2012 7:31:45 GMT -8
When everything says DOWN, don't try to play UP. Don't go against the grain. Agreed. However, in the timeframes in which I like to operate intraday, not all of them say down. One says down, the rest say: violated/broken. For me this is a one-day trade. Not likely to be anything more than that unless my 4H trendline gets broken too. I am also keeping a close eye on the exit door.
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Post by Mav on Dec 10, 2012 7:32:02 GMT -8
A few 530.0000000 ticks just a moment ago
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Post by wheeles on Dec 10, 2012 7:33:01 GMT -8
AAPL has traded 4xtimes worse than the Nasdaq since near the highs for apple approx. 24.5% versus 6% down. How long can this discrepancy last? The bears said something similar on the way up, too.
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Post by ibuyer on Dec 10, 2012 7:36:17 GMT -8
Yo guys? AAPL cannot hit the 470s or so and NOT spook the market. It's too influential. I agree. Note: VXAPL spread over VIX is the highest ~27 (excluding buying panic in April).
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Post by appledoc on Dec 10, 2012 7:36:42 GMT -8
When everything says DOWN, don't try to play UP. Don't go against the grain. Agreed. However, in the timeframes in which I like to operate intraday, not all of them say down. One says down, the rest say: violated/broken. For me this is a one-day trade. Not likely to be anything more than that unless my 4H trendline gets broken too. I am also keeping a close eye on the exit door. Amen. All about perspective.
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Post by Mav on Dec 10, 2012 7:42:28 GMT -8
Shh...AAPL trading has "quieted" down.
Hovering at 530 now.
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Post by appledoc on Dec 10, 2012 7:51:37 GMT -8
Just give me direction already. This is annoying.
If we can get 539, I will go long. Conversely, if we lose 518, I will go short. I think there is good opportunity to make money on both trades even without precise timing.
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Post by Since84 on Dec 10, 2012 7:53:37 GMT -8
Regarding the Best Buy discounts, during the holidays last year the iPhone was widely discounted -- at Best Buy, Target, WalMart and others. AT&T even unofficially matched these discounts by offering compensating merchandise (e.g. cases).
It's a good sign, not a bad sign. Retailers don't advertise things nobody wants...
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 10, 2012 7:54:03 GMT -8
OH! MY GOODNESS! BABS trades AAPL!
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Post by bryanyc on Dec 10, 2012 7:54:58 GMT -8
Green!!! OMG!
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Post by terps530 on Dec 10, 2012 7:55:14 GMT -8
Just give me direction already. This is annoying. If we can get 539, I will go long. Conversely, if we lose 518, I will go short. I think there is good opportunity to make money on both trades even without precise timing. its funny- we move fast, and people want the volatility to end and just slow down. and now that its slow, we want the big move one way to make a play. oops by the end of writing this we just jumped up quick. 535.00 not bad
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