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Post by flyonthewall on Dec 12, 2012 0:04:55 GMT -8
Good Wednesday to all. It is sunny, snowy, cold (-13 Cesius) and hopeful morning in Denmark. The Frankfort Borse shows AAPL up quickly in the AM, now at 412,6 € or 548 US.
Have a good AAPL day!
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Post by bribery on Dec 12, 2012 0:10:54 GMT -8
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Post by flyonthewall on Dec 12, 2012 0:43:44 GMT -8
Yes, thank you! Funny thing, however, when I first found the link on a search engine, the link worked and gave me the entire article. Now, as you pointed out, it does not work.
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Post by Mav on Dec 12, 2012 1:15:36 GMT -8
Super-early pre-market (so obviously, take it for what it's worth) has AAPL around 546, which at +0.8% is outpacing the Nasdaq futures.
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Post by bribery on Dec 12, 2012 1:18:51 GMT -8
Yes, thank you! Funny thing, however, when I first found the link on a search engine, the link worked and gave me the entire article. Now, as you pointed out, it does not work. It worked now =) TAIPEI—Apple Inc. AAPL +2.14% is working with component suppliers in Asia to test several TV-set designs, people familiar with the situation said, suggesting the U.S. company is moving closer to expanding its offerings for the living room. Officials at some of Apple's suppliers, who declined to be named, said the Cupertino, Calif.-based company has been working on testing a few designs for a large-screen high-resolution TV. Two people said Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., 2317.TW +0.63% which assembles the iPhone and iPad, has been collaborating with Japan's Sharp Corp. 6753.TO +7.80% on the design of the new television. "It isn't a formal project yet. It is still in the early stage of testing," said one of the people. Apple, which works with suppliers to test new designs all the time, has been testing various TV prototypes for a number of years, according to people familiar with the efforts. The company generally tests and develops products internally before doing so with outside suppliers. Enlarge Image Getty Images An Apple store in Grand Central Terminal in New York City. Competitors such as Google Inc. GOOG +1.67% are toying around in the business of making software for televisions and set-top boxes as well, but no one offering has gotten big traction to date. Apple's move into the television market would intensify competition with some of its biggest suppliers such as Samsung Electronics Co. 005930.SE +0.95% The South Korean company supplies key components to Apple and is also the world's biggest TV maker by shipments. "The potential for consumer lock-in that the television creates will likely drive platform companies to continue exploring the space. As such, while the battle is just getting started on this front, we see it as having the potential to either further entrench current winners such as Apple, or completely disrupt the market once again," Goldman Sachs GS +1.58% said in a report. Apple supplier Hon Hai, known by the trade name Foxconn, has been expanding into the market for large high-resolution TVs, capitalizing on chairman Terry Gou's investment in a Japanese liquid-crystal-display factory that used to be owned by Sharp. In July, Mr. Gou, through his investment firm, took a 37.6% stake in the operator of an LCD factory in Sakai, western Japan, to become a co-investor along with Sharp. Under that deal, Hon Hai receives up to half of the panels manufactured at the plant and those panels can be used for any TV sets. The Sakai plant, which cost Sharp more than $10 billion to build in 2009, is particularly suitable for making LCD panels 60 inches or larger for TV sets. Earlier this year, Hon Hai began assembling 60-inch TVs for Vizio Inc., a California-based vendor of low-cost, flat-panel televisions, using panels from the Sakai plant. Apple could opt not to proceed with the device and how a large-screen TV fits with its overall strategy for remaking watching TV remains unclear. Apple has also been talking to cable television operators about building a box that would carry live television, according to people familiar with the matter. In a recent media interview, Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook suggested that the company's interest in television has progressed beyond a "hobby." He likened turning on a TV today to going "backwards in time by 20 to 30 years." "It's an area of intense interest. I can't say more than that," said Mr. Cook in the interview with NBC News. Apple shareholders are anxious about the timing and nature of the company's plans. While iPhones and iPads are selling briskly, they believe television could be one of the next big catalysts for Apple's business as those products eventually peter out. Apple shares fell to $541.39 on Tuesday from all-time high of $702.10 in September amid concerns about the company's future profits and growth. Apple has been trying to make its way into the living room for years. In August, The Wall Street Journal reported that Apple has been talking with major cable operators, including Time Warner Cable, TWC +0.06% about letting consumers use an Apple device as a set-top box for live television and other content. Plenty of hurdles remain. Apple doesn't appear to have any deals with operators to sell such a device and getting them on board is likely to be challenging. The relationship between Apple, cable companies and content owners remains tense. Apple has tried repeatedly over the past few years to persuade entertainment companies to grant it rights for various kinds of TV offerings, with limited success. Sales of Apple's current TV hardware, a $99 set-top box, are picking up but are still small. The company sold 1.3 million in the quarter that ended in September. The device allows users to access some Internet video on larger screens but doesn't offer traditional channel lineups. Apple has struck deals with video providers such as Netflix Inc. NFLX +1.51% and Hulu LLC to offer apps for the device.
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Post by flyonthewall on Dec 12, 2012 1:19:46 GMT -8
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Post by flyonthewall on Dec 12, 2012 2:08:07 GMT -8
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Post by appledoc on Dec 12, 2012 5:08:52 GMT -8
Currently above the 50% and 61.8% retraces of the move from 549.56 to 538. 78.6% retrace is 547.09. So look for that to get taken out before a retest of yesterday's HOD. If we get through successfully, I believe it's time to test 555.20. After that we have lots of room to run as we cover the 594.59 to 518.63 move.
First downside target is 538.
I will post intraday stuff in the EW thread, but just wanted to give a heads up here.
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Post by rezonate on Dec 12, 2012 5:44:17 GMT -8
Carry-over comment from yesterday's question about people taking long term gains. Mrs. Rez and I are taking a world cruise, May-Sept, Sydney round trip. No we are not rich but longtime board members will understand "why now?". To finance this, some of our meager stack of AAPL will become cash. Since I just left my job and the pensioner salary (take home) is only 30% what we had, I am leaning towards taking LT gains in tax year '13 after earnings. Even with the threat of higher rates I'm waiting for the bounce post-earnings to get us to a certain threshold. I hold with the 10/80/10 crowd who thinks real solution/kick the can/cliff.
(Happy to take "world cruise meet-up" and "short-term work" discussion to the Peanut Gallery!)
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 12, 2012 5:45:17 GMT -8
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 12, 2012 5:52:12 GMT -8
Quick tip:
I am currently not a WSJ subscriber.
GOOGLE wants everything to be free.
If you GOOGLE the title of a WSJ article, the first link that comes up is usually the free one.
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Post by appledoc on Dec 12, 2012 6:05:40 GMT -8
Link to the page is getting screwed up for some reason.
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 12, 2012 6:08:15 GMT -8
Carry-over comment from yesterday's question about people taking long term gains. Mrs. Rez and I are taking a world cruise, May-Sept, Sydney round trip. No we are not rich but longtime board members will understand "why now?". To finance this, some of our meager stack of AAPL will become cash. Since I just left my job and the pensioner salary (take home) is only 30% what we had, I am leaning towards taking LT gains in tax year '13 after earnings. Even with the threat of higher rates I'm waiting for the bounce post-earnings to get us to a certain threshold. I hold with the 10/80/10 crowd who thinks real solution/kick the can/cliff. (Happy to take "world cruise meet-up" and "short-term work" discussion to the Peanut Gallery!) You are a good man Rez.
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 12, 2012 6:16:08 GMT -8
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Post by Rupert on Dec 12, 2012 6:19:55 GMT -8
Resistance/Support Wednesday 12/12/2012
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Post by ibuyer on Dec 12, 2012 6:20:21 GMT -8
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 12, 2012 6:27:30 GMT -8
I watched the video in the first one, that is amazing technology. I agree with the second one that gestures is a bad idea for operating a TV. I also believe that Apple would start with a much smaller unit. 60" is a big TV and would limit the number of potential buyers.
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Post by Rupert on Dec 12, 2012 6:38:20 GMT -8
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Post by fas550 on Dec 12, 2012 6:41:38 GMT -8
Agree it will with the consumer. Not so much in the Corp Enterprise market. Some of the main enterprise apps were able to transition to the tablet because of the real estate of the iPad, but only just (going from a 14 screen or so on a laptop to a 9.7 tablet). Many of those same apps will be too cumbersome (too much swiping, expanding etc...) on a smaller screens and it is very frustrating trying to get to data quickly when there are a litany of buttons and drop down options but little real estate. Eventually that frustration turns into the word unusable. Lastly on ergonomics and perception: (this is all IMHO) it can easily be interpreted as rude typing and looking at a laptop during a face to face meeting. The iPad is quite ideal as it is perceived as a note taker (as long as one doesn't sit there staring at it and doing other tasks). The smaller mini looks just a little too trendy for business and the user could be perceived as not serious.
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Post by ibuyer on Dec 12, 2012 6:46:20 GMT -8
Just for reference of what BRK did:
Berkshire Hathaway $BRK.A $BRK.B purchased 9,200 Class A shares at $131K p/s from the estate of a long-time shareholder.
A stock buyback and said may buyback more.
Value ~1.2B
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Post by terps530 on Dec 12, 2012 6:47:01 GMT -8
well an earnings report like that would surely put an end to the 500's.
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 12, 2012 6:51:06 GMT -8
This is the definition of being LUCKY. Christopher Kennedy Shriver, nephew of President Kennedy, has a new book. He was just interviewed on WLS. When he was 6, MARILYN MONROE taught him how to do the twist.
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Post by jdrizzo89 on Dec 12, 2012 6:53:32 GMT -8
slight gap and crap...
20dayEMA certainly has some interesting info he is putting out there.
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Post by terps530 on Dec 12, 2012 6:56:58 GMT -8
this is where we fight! according to my guess from yesterday :/
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Post by ibuyer on Dec 12, 2012 6:58:47 GMT -8
Speaker of the House coming up soon
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Post by wheeles on Dec 12, 2012 7:04:49 GMT -8
FOMC today. Could really mess things up.
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Post by qualitywte on Dec 12, 2012 7:05:26 GMT -8
Agree it will with the consumer. Not so much in the Corp Enterprise market. Some of the main enterprise apps were able to transition to the tablet because of the real estate of the iPad, but only just (going from a 14 screen or so on a laptop to a 9.7 tablet). Many of those same apps will be too cumbersome (too much swiping, expanding etc...) on a smaller screens and it is very frustrating trying to get to data quickly when there are a litany of buttons and drop down options but little real estate. Eventually that frustration turns into the word unusable. Lastly on ergonomics and perception: (this is all IMHO) it can easily be interpreted as rude typing and looking at a laptop during a face to face meeting. The iPad is quite ideal as it is perceived as a note taker (as long as one doesn't sit there staring at it and doing other tasks). The smaller mini looks just a little too trendy for business and the user could be perceived as not serious. Excellent insight! Also because the mini is consumer driven, it makes sense that the holiday quarter would see more cannibalization. Full sized iPad, being more enterprise driven, should see more balanced sales throughout the year.
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Post by lance on Dec 12, 2012 7:33:48 GMT -8
500-700 trading range holding pretty steady. IMHO it holds this range till Q2 earnings in April. Unless we get the following two scenarios. We get 16 EPS or higher for Q1 there is a possiblity for low 700's. Or if we get less than 13 EPS than I see possiblity for high 400's. Otherwise I expect we will see 500-700 till we see the Q2 results. The only other possiblity for breaking the range is some out of no where unexpected product launch over this winter or massive increase in quarterly dividend.
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Post by podboy on Dec 12, 2012 8:20:52 GMT -8
The price action on my DITM LEAPS is wonky. For example AAPL up 11 yesterday = $3K gain. AAPL down 3 today = $4K loss. I know it has to do with the greeks and who's buying/selling but its frustrating.
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Post by appledoc on Dec 12, 2012 8:26:46 GMT -8
Did not anticipate recovering from the 538 break. Made a move and got burned a little. Even when you think you have a good idea of the picture, you don't.
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