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Post by appledoc on Dec 13, 2012 0:58:11 GMT -8
Sitting exactly where we were a week ago. It's time to leave the sub-550s far behind.
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Post by bribery on Dec 13, 2012 1:18:14 GMT -8
An uptick today and a rally tomorrow due to swarms of Chinese people stampeding for an iPhone, that's all I ask for
The sentiment indicator in StockTwits is indicating a slight increase for the first time in several days. =)
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Post by appledoc on Dec 13, 2012 2:39:57 GMT -8
An uptick today and a rally tomorrow due to swarms of Chinese people stampeding for an iPhone, that's all I ask for The sentiment indicator in StockTwits is indicating a slight increase for the first time in several days. =) Stampedes won't occur because of the change in ordering system compared to last year. Yet everyone will expect them and scream and shout when they don't happen.
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Post by bribery on Dec 13, 2012 2:41:16 GMT -8
An uptick today and a rally tomorrow due to swarms of Chinese people stampeding for an iPhone, that's all I ask for The sentiment indicator in StockTwits is indicating a slight increase for the first time in several days. =) Stampedes won't occur because of the change in ordering system compared to last year. Yet everyone will expect them and scream and shout when they don't happen. There'll be scalpers battling with the paparazzo
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 13, 2012 2:57:01 GMT -8
And CNBC will run a story that last year a dozen people were injured and this year only two so demand must be down...but of course.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 13, 2012 3:19:34 GMT -8
So 20DAYEMA over on Stocktwits put up a bunch of info/charts indicating that institutions have been the big buyers and retail the sellers as defined by blocks of greater/less than 10k share (block vs. non-block) amounts.
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Post by bribery on Dec 13, 2012 3:30:03 GMT -8
So 20DAYEMA over on Stocktwits put up a bunch of info/charts indicating that institutions have been the big buyers and retail the sellers as defined by blocks of greater/less than 10k share (block vs. non-block) amounts. Yeah that guy rocks. That'd be in agreement with tax selloff, right? I am totally ignorant about taxation for institutions and how it might be affected by the tax reform.
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 13, 2012 4:32:21 GMT -8
A broker just made what I thought was a startling statement about the current conditions on Bloomberg.
What will happen to bank stocks if we fall off the fiscal cliff?
It will be terrible. The 10 year bonds will fall below 1%.......
What is wrong with that for the rest of us? lower interest rates = faster growth.
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 13, 2012 4:55:17 GMT -8
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Post by rickag on Dec 13, 2012 4:57:47 GMT -8
So 20DAYEMA over on Stocktwits put up a bunch of info/charts indicating that institutions have been the big buyers and retail the sellers as defined by blocks of greater/less than 10k share (block vs. non-block) amounts. Yeah that guy rocks. That'd be in agreement with tax selloff, right? I am totally ignorant about taxation for institutions and how it might be affected by the tax reform. Except the chart for the last 2 years shows this trend and I doubt retail investors think that far in advance. I can't understand his chart as I don't understand the scale on the right side of the chart.
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Post by appledoc on Dec 13, 2012 5:35:09 GMT -8
I'm anticipating a very rocky opening.
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Post by rmhe1999 on Dec 13, 2012 5:42:51 GMT -8
GOOG up almost 2% in PM because why? Oh, because they released a free iOS app.... The lunacy of this market continues to be staggering.
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Post by lance on Dec 13, 2012 5:50:18 GMT -8
Gap will be filled because of premarket dip.
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Post by lance on Dec 13, 2012 5:56:32 GMT -8
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Post by awcabot on Dec 13, 2012 5:57:55 GMT -8
Craapl.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 13, 2012 6:02:31 GMT -8
This was out yesterday and I doubt AAPL is depending on Russia - the Chinese issue will take a while. If they lose subscribers they may give in - we'll see.
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Post by Rupert on Dec 13, 2012 6:18:19 GMT -8
Resistance/Support Thursday 12/13/2012
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Post by johng on Dec 13, 2012 6:18:23 GMT -8
That's what my ex work (Droid) homies used to called it. I would laugh and tell them how much I made that day. I haven't been laughing for a while. I doubt there will be any significant move up until (perhaps) after the Q1 report is released due to a variety of internal/external reasons. Apple will need to beat WS estimates by at least 5% (~$14) to break the neg sentiment. I think there's a fair/reasonable chance of Apple reporting ~14 but there are a lot of macro headwinds pushing against that #. JohnG
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Post by rickag on Dec 13, 2012 6:19:54 GMT -8
So 20DAYEMA over on Stocktwits put up a bunch of info/charts indicating that institutions have been the big buyers and retail the sellers as defined by blocks of greater/less than 10k share (block vs. non-block) amounts. Just curious as to why 10,000 share blocks is the break point? And if I remember correctly from Fidelity's and other websites the reported institutional ownership has been as high as 71% to a low of 61% in the last few months. Does anyone have any data going back over the last 2 years? It does seem like this could be going on as the price of AAPL has gone from ~$300 to $705 in the last couple of years. Long time holders may have been selling as they retire or take profits, and not may incoming retail buyers exist due to the perceived high price of AAPL stock. If Greg was still here he might shed some light as I believe he monitored money flows and institutional ownership.
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Post by terps530 on Dec 13, 2012 6:22:15 GMT -8
GOOG up almost 2% in PM because why? Oh, because they released a free iOS app.... The lunacy of this market continues to be staggering. Cramer just quoted you
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 13, 2012 6:27:38 GMT -8
Speaking of Greg...my understanding is that he is over at Braeburn, no? But out of curiosity - does that prevent him from being here as well...or does he simply choose not to? I don't know if there are "special rules" over there. Just asking.
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Post by Tetrachloride on Dec 13, 2012 6:29:14 GMT -8
Braeburn is more on analysis of news, far less on day to day trading.
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Post by rmhe1999 on Dec 13, 2012 6:30:50 GMT -8
GOOG up almost 2% in PM because why? Oh, because they released a free iOS app.... The lunacy of this market continues to be staggering. Cramer just quoted you Please elaborate?
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Post by terps530 on Dec 13, 2012 6:38:43 GMT -8
on cnbc he said pretty much exactly what you posted. just how its ridiculous that a maps app would put goog +2% and aapl -1.5%. little piece on how silly it is that something like that would move stocks instead of earnings, profits, etc etc. I was just giving you credit because you said it first! haha
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Post by bribery on Dec 13, 2012 6:44:47 GMT -8
530 is hardly holding, but still holding
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Post by rob_london on Dec 13, 2012 6:53:59 GMT -8
on cnbc he said pretty much exactly what you posted. just how its ridiculous that a maps app would put goog +2% and aapl -1.5%. little piece on how silly it is that something like that would move stocks instead of earnings, profits, etc etc. I was just giving you credit because you said it first! haha Obviously Google have not reintroduced their free map app because they are feeling charitable but to make money. After installing the app, I had to go six levels deep to switch off 'Location data collection".
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 13, 2012 7:03:34 GMT -8
Speaking of Greg...my understanding is that he is over at Braeburn, no? But out of curiosity - does that prevent him from being here as well...or does he simply choose not to? I don't know if there are "special rules" over there. Just asking. Phoebes, he became agitated here and deleted his account if I remember correctly. I know I questioned his Jan spread position 655/675 if I remember correctly. He was talking about Apple internal numbers again and started hearing about it. There is no rule about dual membership, there are many here who are members of both.
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Post by terps530 on Dec 13, 2012 7:05:51 GMT -8
Obviously Google have not reintroduced their free map app because they are feeling charitable but to make money. After installing the app, I had to go six levels deep to switch off 'Location data collection". Yea I noticed the same thing. Man this 530 is quite a line. Was getting scared there it was going to give in, but here's to another hold just now. Enough testing 530 whaddaya say aapl?!
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Post by aapl4kiki on Dec 13, 2012 7:10:25 GMT -8
on cnbc he said pretty much exactly what you posted. just how its ridiculous that a maps app would put goog +2% and aapl -1.5%. little piece on how silly it is that something like that would move stocks instead of earnings, profits, etc etc. I was just giving you credit because you said it first! haha Obviously Google have not reintroduced their free map app because they are feeling charitable but to make money. After installing the app, I had to go six levels deep to switch off 'Location data collection". In case others installed the app and don't want to send Google their data: Google Maps opens with a stark reminder about one of the primary subjects in the custody battle between Apple and Google – user data. It boots up with a pre-filled checkbox that authorizes the app to send anonymous location back to Google to help it improve traffic and other services. You can of course opt out of it, but the page is slightly misleading. The “Accept & Continue” button refers to agreeing to the Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, but the check mark seems to imply that it’s required. If you already authorized the data collection and want to disable it, you can, but it’s buried deep within the app. You’ll need to click on the person icon, then the settings gear, “About, terms & privacy”, “Terms & privacy”, “Location data collection”.
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Post by mbeauch on Dec 13, 2012 7:11:13 GMT -8
Obviously Google have not reintroduced their free map app because they are feeling charitable but to make money. After installing the app, I had to go six levels deep to switch off 'Location data collection". Yea I noticed the same thing. Man this 530 is quite a line. Was getting scared there it was going to give in, but here's to another hold just now. Enough testing 530 whaddaya say aapl?! That gap up in the morning yesterday only to crash made me feel today was going to be red for sure. The wind is knocked out at the slightest bit of optimism. I am exhausted.
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