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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 15:31:50 GMT -8
Blodgett is a whore, selling his "opinion" to the highest bidder. He was banned by the SEC from ever working for an SEC regulated firm, for LIFE. Anybody that puts any credence in his thoughts is one of two things: dumber than a stump, or a fellow whore.
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Post by Mav on Jan 5, 2013 15:42:16 GMT -8
iPad, did you have to go there with the shrimp? Is there wiggle room with the 524? Cut below to 520 but quick reversal maybe? And I assume the 555 is hardly a must-get-there-in-one-day-or-even-a-week target. I get this feeling that AAPL will have to wait 'til earnings day to really move (/rangebound hypothesis tinfoil hat)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 15:42:39 GMT -8
If you read my post I caveated it with that the source was Business Insider but I posted for 2 reasons - they were referencing CR and they were tweeting it out to tens of thousands. I agree it's BI but I would love to know how Blodget is able to somehow twist the information and not get called out on it. Wish I knew of a way of bringing attention to their reporting. Would love to expose them in some way... I am going to start a blog that exposes this king of crap. All I am going to do is post the offending article, with a follow up of facts. I'm looking for a blog name that immediately identifies its purpose. Any ideas? A Twitter account along with a Facebook page should do it. For starters I think I should include just about anyone that appears, or speaks about Apple on CNBC, analysts that are horribly wrong (3 Standard Deviations off of actual results), and purveyors of unsubstantiated (later found to be false) rumors. I am going to need help locating the articles. Anyone want to help as sources?
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Post by Lstream on Jan 5, 2013 15:45:23 GMT -8
Blodgett is a whore, selling his "opinion" to the highest bidder. He was banned by the SEC from ever working for an SEC regulated firm, for LIFE. Anybody that puts any credence in his thoughts is one of two things: dumber than a stump, or a fellow whore. I am not happy at you insulting stumps like that. They have some perfectly good uses like tying up a boat. What is sad to me is that there is a market for low-life parasites like this guy.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jan 5, 2013 15:49:10 GMT -8
All standard disclaimers: MHO, WAG, do-your-own-due-diligence:Holy cr*p! I have good EW news! Thanks to the long-awaited return of AAPL-EW guru Mace, my little pea brain FINALLY pulled together an answer to an EW riddle that has been perplexing us since 644! Turned in homework to my EW teacher Avi, who gave it the thumbs-up! For everyone who doesn't give a rip about my EW babbling, I shall cut to the chase: IF we can bounce at 524-ish on Monday and subsequently take out 555 with volume, THEN the bottom is in.After which, the minimum, shrimpiest, limp d*ck, worst-case projected EW WAG target for 2013 (can't do timeframe any better than that, sorry): 815. The if-not scenario just means we keep taking it level by level. Count off every 5 points for back-of-napkin support levels: 515 ---> 510 ---> 505 ---> etc. Lovey, I am with you 100%. I don't understand EW or much of anything else, but I am with you 100%!
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Post by lovemyipad on Jan 5, 2013 15:53:51 GMT -8
LOL, Red! Love you!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 16:07:33 GMT -8
Yesterday, AAPL's P/C Ratio hit a 33 trading day high of 69 (low was 65). This is great news.
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Post by redinaustin on Jan 5, 2013 16:19:16 GMT -8
If you read my post I caveated it with that the source was Business Insider but I posted for 2 reasons - they were referencing CR and they were tweeting it out to tens of thousands. I agree it's BI but I would love to know how Blodget is able to somehow twist the information and not get called out on it. Wish I knew of a way of bringing attention to their reporting. Would love to expose them in some way... I am going to start a blog that exposes this king of crap. All I am going to do is post the offending article, with a follow up of facts. I'm looking for a blog name that immediately identifies its purpose. Any ideas? A Twitter account along with a Facebook page should do it. For starters I think I should include just about anyone that appears, or speaks about Apple on CNBC, analysts that are horribly wrong (3 Standard Deviations off of actual results), and purveyors of unsubstantiated (later found to be false) rumors. I am going to need help locating the articles. Anyone want to help as sources? Business Insideoutsider
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 5, 2013 17:03:03 GMT -8
I am going to start a blog that exposes this king of crap. All I am going to do is post the offending article, with a follow up of facts. I'm looking for a blog name that immediately identifies its purpose. Any ideas? A Twitter account along with a Facebook page should do it. For starters I think I should include just about anyone that appears, or speaks about Apple on CNBC, analysts that are horribly wrong (3 Standard Deviations off of actual results), and purveyors of unsubstantiated (later found to be false) rumors. I am going to need help locating the articles. Anyone want to help as sources? Business Insideoutsider VERITATEM (old Latin class comes in handy...means simply "The Truth")
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Post by Tetrachloride on Jan 5, 2013 17:14:15 GMT -8
I'll be glad to assist. However, others will have to take up the torch for CNBC surveillance.
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Post by rickag on Jan 5, 2013 17:43:33 GMT -8
If you read my post I caveated it with that the source was Business Insider but I posted for 2 reasons - they were referencing CR and they were tweeting it out to tens of thousands. I agree it's BI but I would love to know how Blodget is able to somehow twist the information and not get called out on it. Wish I knew of a way of bringing attention to their reporting. Would love to expose them in some way... I am going to start a blog that exposes this king of crap. All I am going to do is post the offending article, with a follow up of facts. I'm looking for a blog name that immediately identifies its purpose. Any ideas? A Twitter account along with a Facebook page should do it. For starters I think I should include just about anyone that appears, or speaks about Apple on CNBC, analysts that are horribly wrong (3 Standard Deviations off of actual results), and purveyors of unsubstantiated (later found to be false) rumors. I am going to need help locating the articles. Anyone want to help as sources? Seriously Businessinsider WTF
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Post by rosie on Jan 5, 2013 17:59:31 GMT -8
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Post by roni on Jan 5, 2013 18:35:34 GMT -8
All standard disclaimers: MHO, WAG, do-your-own-due-diligence:Holy cr*p! I have good EW news! Thanks to the long-awaited return of AAPL-EW guru Mace, my little pea brain FINALLY pulled together an answer to an EW riddle that has been perplexing us since 644! Turned in homework to my EW teacher Avi, who gave it the thumbs-up! For everyone who doesn't give a rip about my EW babbling, I shall cut to the chase: IF we can bounce at 524-ish on Monday and subsequently take out 555 with volume, THEN the bottom is in.After which, the minimum, shrimpiest, limp d*ck, worst-case projected EW WAG target for 2013 (can't do timeframe any better than that, sorry): 815. The if-not scenario just means we keep taking it level by level. Count off every 5 points for back-of-napkin support levels: 515 ---> 510 ---> 505 ---> etc. Lovey, I am with you 100%. I don't understand EW or much of anything else, but I am with you 100%! While, at the age of 61, I am pretty secure in my masculinity I still do not like the sound of shrimpy and limp d*ck used in the same sentence.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jan 5, 2013 18:39:59 GMT -8
Lovey, I am with you 100%. I don't understand EW or much of anything else, but I am with you 100%! While, at the age of 61, I am pretty secure in my masculinity I still do not like the sound of shrimpy and limp d*ck used in the same sentence. Yes...hmm...maybe I'm not in 100% after all.
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Post by JDSoCal on Jan 5, 2013 18:55:58 GMT -8
Blodgett is a whore, selling his "opinion" to the highest bidder. He was banned by the SEC from ever working for an SEC regulated firm, for LIFE. Now that's the word I wanted to use, but last time I used it to describe Blodget, I got my post censored. Just be careful. Those BI scumbags will try to silence you. I am absolutely convinced I got a time out from Twitter because these weasels reported me for "excessive replies to an account not following your own," or some bullshit like that. I was replying their FUD and debunking it, and next thing I know, I have no twitter for 3 days. I am absolutely convinced these little BI cretins, whom I would pay a lot of money to get into a dojo and sign a waiver so I could and strike them legally, are responsible. In particular, that #$%&! weasel Yarow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 19:49:26 GMT -8
Just an FYI about Put/calls for yesterday Put Volume: 400,378 contracts Call Volume: 567,889 contracts Put/Call Ratio: 0.71 Where did you get those numbers? Schaefer posted the ratio at .69:1.
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Post by lovemyipad on Jan 5, 2013 19:50:10 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 19:53:37 GMT -8
I am going to start a blog that exposes this king of crap. All I am going to do is post the offending article, with a follow up of facts. I'm looking for a blog name that immediately identifies its purpose. Any ideas? A Twitter account along with a Facebook page should do it. For starters I think I should include just about anyone that appears, or speaks about Apple on CNBC, analysts that are horribly wrong (3 Standard Deviations off of actual results), and purveyors of unsubstantiated (later found to be false) rumors. I am going to need help locating the articles. Anyone want to help as sources? Seriously Businessinsider WTF I'm starting to lean towards analystwhoresagogo.com, or anythingforahit.com
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Post by Tetrachloride on Jan 5, 2013 19:57:40 GMT -8
Watch it, even if it is a facebook link.
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 5, 2013 20:02:38 GMT -8
Thanks Lovey, it brought me to tears when he bent over to get a smell. ;D
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Post by tradermac on Jan 5, 2013 20:05:46 GMT -8
Seriously Businessinsider WTF I'm starting to lean towards analystwhoresagogo.com, or anythingforahit.com AAPLHATE.com you might even get hits by real haters. lol
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Post by Mav on Jan 5, 2013 20:07:01 GMT -8
That's just wrong. ;D
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 5, 2013 20:30:07 GMT -8
KO has increased dividends for the past 50 years. The average 10 year dividend growth rate is 9.8%. Those are pretty good pay raises for income investors. There are lots of folks who are happy to pay to hire a company that gives them that kind of annual pay raise for merely holding the shares. For those who really want to inspect the above manipulation of numbers. KO's yield is 2.71% AAPL's is 2.01% Going from .19c to .21c to .24c to .26c sounds really good from a percentage wise, but the yield is the bottom line. The point I was trying to make is that KO does not grow, it is just a cash cow. I have been trying to use Apple's cash generation as a reason why AAPL should be given a higher multiple. (asymco did a piece a couple of years ago about Apple's cash) One thing to take note of is that KO has split numerous times. It does not grow earnings, but its share price continues to climb, they continue to split and they pay a steady dividend. This for a company that could very easily face problems because it is very unhealthy. I seldom drink any kind of soft-drink. I actually think coke/Pepsi has made the US obese. I would love to take a tangent, but I will let it slide. LOL If people will look, IBM, MSFT, T, Boeing, MMM etc...... all have higher multiples. They are DOW companies. (T) trades at a 45 p/e, give me a damn break. The time has come for AAPL to make a move and join the DOW. Split the darn stock and buy some shares back. AAPL deserves some stability.
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Post by Mav on Jan 5, 2013 20:45:54 GMT -8
Maybe AAPL _should_ join the Dow when you look at it that way. "Blah multiples" is like manna from heaven for AAPL investors and traders. (/not funny)
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Post by rutgersguy92 on Jan 5, 2013 20:48:09 GMT -8
I like this quote: "And Samsung isn’t stopping with phones and televisions (or memory chips and flat-panel displays where it is also the global leader). Chairman Lee Kun Hee recently gave a speech to employees underscoring the need to venture into new businesses. The son of the man who started the produce trading company knows that t he future of his company will be products that don’t even exist today. Samsung is in this for the long haul." So not only are they copying the products which SJ had to vision to conceive, but they're also copying what he was saying in interviews and the press. For some reason, I have little faith that these guys can think of what people are going to need in the next few years.
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Post by mark on Jan 5, 2013 21:33:04 GMT -8
Total return (10 years): KO - 119.98% AAPL - 7,040.92% Total return (20 years): KO - 445.01% AAPL - 3,627.02%
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 5, 2013 21:40:00 GMT -8
Total return (10 years): KO - 119.98% AAPL - 7,040.92% Total return (20 years): KO - 445.01% AAPL - 3,627.02% Exactly, and which one has the higher p/e?
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Post by mark on Jan 5, 2013 21:45:53 GMT -8
I'd love for Apple to buy the Waze app. I love the integration of a live maps service with people inputting traffic observations in real time. I've had the app since the 4S launched, and it's never failed me. If Apple expanded and intertwined it somehow into their iOS universe, I think it could be really cool. There are a few problems with this. First off, I should say that waze is one of my favorite apps, definitely in my top-5 all-time list. However, the primary value of waze is its users - and that includes users on platforms other than iOS. I'm not sure how Apple could purchase it and continue to supply Android devices with the app (and updates) and the data that makes the app valuable. And if Apple doesn't continue to support Android, the value of the app goes down because fewer users = less data = less valuable. It's a kind of catch-22.
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Post by mark on Jan 5, 2013 21:48:03 GMT -8
Total return (10 years): KO - 119.98% AAPL - 7,040.92% Total return (20 years): KO - 445.01% AAPL - 3,627.02% Exactly, and which one has the higher p/e? Perhaps "the market" is assigning P/E based on reliability of earnings? In other words, if Apple can keep earnings around this level for a while (like Coke has done), perhaps it too would be awarded a P/E between 15 and 20?
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Post by Mav on Jan 5, 2013 21:58:18 GMT -8
Nah. AAPL is the Rodney Dangerfield of stocks more than it's ever been.
We just deal with it.
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