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Post by rob_london on Jan 7, 2013 7:50:10 GMT -8
Amazon at an ATH...no justice.
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Post by rob_london on Jan 7, 2013 7:55:49 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 7:56:20 GMT -8
I got an iPad Mini for Christmas and basically haven't turned on my non-Apple PC since xmas. For awhile I didn't think I really would need at tablet when you have a smartphone and computer, but I was wrong. I love the iPad Mini!! Sadly my love for the product has no impact on AAPL continuing to trend down and most likely hitting new lows. Like a bundle of sticks, sentiment for the iPad/mini will float AAPL's boat. Just be patient.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 8:00:11 GMT -8
"Apple® today announced that customers have downloaded over 40 billion apps*, with nearly 20 billion in 2012 alone. The App Store℠ has over 500 million active accounts and had a record-breaking December with over two billion downloads during the month." Doesn't sound like there was a huge increase in app downloads over the holidays if 20 billion downloaded for the year and only 2 billion (10%) in December. Am I missing something? Yep. December represents 8.5% of the year. December actuals represent 10% of sales, but what's more important is that half of all downloads occurred during 2012, making the entire year Christmas.
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Post by Tetrachloride on Jan 7, 2013 8:00:30 GMT -8
i hope Horace is right. I am at $14.49 a share Lightweights. I'm in at $16.80. I might be willing to split the difference with you after I analyze the PR report today. I'm just starting to create the math.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 8:07:41 GMT -8
I've never seen AAPL so concerned w/ stock price before, given last 2 press releases (first china weekend sales, today app store sales) were totally unnecessary. Maybe TC is trying to tell the shareholders that a great earnings is coming. I know I'm grasping at straws but it makes me feel better . Of all the speculation and unfounded reports of calamity, the one thing we forget is that TC practically guaranteed January's earnings report. That doesn't tell us what is going to be reported, but the number will be very strong. Last year Apple guided $9.30 for the December quarter, then reported $13.87, a beat of 49.13%. At $16.80 I'm forecasting a beat of 42.98%.
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Post by terps530 on Jan 7, 2013 8:11:06 GMT -8
tickling that 527 green baby babyyy, almost!
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Post by renee on Jan 7, 2013 8:11:21 GMT -8
volume is just too low for a reversal to be solid. maybe volume will pick up red dog reversal? can we get some volume to the upside. holding 525 is important Go RDR!
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Post by ibuyer on Jan 7, 2013 8:11:23 GMT -8
volume is just too low for a reversal to be solid. maybe volume will pick up red dog reversal? can we get some volume to the upside. holding 525 is important above 525 w/ 7.5m shares traded and a little more volume on green bars. flashed green!
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Post by rob_london on Jan 7, 2013 8:12:06 GMT -8
Very nice 11+ point bounce. Great to see AAPL showing some relative strength again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 8:13:40 GMT -8
I thought Mondays were supposed to be one of the better days of the week for AAPL price action... Doesn't matter what day of the week it is if you don't get in when you should (and conversely, get out when you should).
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Post by qualitywte on Jan 7, 2013 8:22:07 GMT -8
Of all the speculation and unfounded reports of calamity, the one thing we forget is that TC practically guaranteed January's earnings report. That doesn't tell us what is going to be reported, but the number will be very strong. And he practically said there is an iTV coming too on the NBC interview. By the time that TV hits the market (Munster says 85% chance it will be this year), we're guaranteed millions of sales immediately. Cha-Ching!!
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Post by gtrplyr on Jan 7, 2013 8:26:03 GMT -8
Just a quick thought. At this point I, like many others, am completely invested in Apple .... 100% of my portfolio. Sheer Stupidity but it has paid off well until we hit the last 3 months. I was also a HUGE believer in buying BAC and did so at $3 and sold at some point to put that money in Apple because I was simply too optimistic .... at this point I have to say as much as I love the company I'm not sure AAPL is where to put your money for the best return as this economy recovers and maybe many have the same thought. Not that Apple isn't as strong as it's ever been but rather other opportunities have opened up as the market recovers. That coupled with the fact that Apple is a EXPENSIVE (Not per PE and not OVERPRICED) stock at over $500 a share might really hold them back. I think the best thing management could do if they really cared about stock price is a split .... apart from that do something with all that money .... what should be a great asset sounds more like a liability when you hear WS talk about Apple's cash management. EDIT : As I finished typing that AAPL is now green and BAC is red ... I'm a genius
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 7, 2013 8:27:49 GMT -8
And the Lord said, "Let it be GREEN!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 8:36:57 GMT -8
Here's something for those that think Apple may miss this quarter: www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2013/01/07/apple-tops-50-of-the-u-s-smartphone-market/US Smartphone share: iPhone 53.3%, Android down to 41.9%. "Savitz reports, “Among iPhone buyers in November, 27% upgraded from another smartphone OS, 34% upgraded from a previous iPhone and 40% upgraded to their first smartphone.” That 27% upgrades from another smartphone, and 40% upgraded to first smartphone can only be Android (of some flavor/capability) switchers.
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Post by sponge on Jan 7, 2013 8:37:56 GMT -8
The chart boys over at stocktwits called it right.
They predicted an initial selloff this morning with a recovery.
I still think the big boys control this stock and will keep it under 550 by OE.
Until TC and company splits the stock, we will have bigger and more wild swings. I still don't see a split this year.
The good news is that just as we had a 200 point drop, don't be surprised to see a 300 point move up. Especially if Gregg's number is correct.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jan 7, 2013 8:42:18 GMT -8
ROLLLLLL TIIIIDEEEE!!!! and GOOOO Patriots next weekend!!! Would love to see Packers vs. Patriots in the Superbowl! Fear my Seahawks.....all of you....
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Post by tuffett on Jan 7, 2013 8:55:38 GMT -8
I've never seen AAPL so concerned w/ stock price before, given last 2 press releases (first china weekend sales, today app store sales) were totally unnecessary. Maybe TC is trying to tell the shareholders that a great earnings is coming. I know I'm grasping at straws but it makes me feel better . Of all the speculation and unfounded reports of calamity, the one thing we forget is that TC practically guaranteed January's earnings report. That doesn't tell us what is going to be reported, but the number will be very strong. Last year Apple guided $9.30 for the December quarter, then reported $13.87, a beat of 49.13%. At $16.80 I'm forecasting a beat of 42.98%. How is it guaranteed? Q3 and Q4 beats were far smaller than they were the previous year.
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Post by tuffett on Jan 7, 2013 8:58:46 GMT -8
Just a quick thought. At this point I, like many others, am completely invested in Apple .... 100% of my portfolio. Sheer Stupidity but it has paid off well until we hit the last 3 months. I was also a HUGE believer in buying BAC and did so at $3 and sold at some point to put that money in Apple because I was simply too optimistic .... at this point I have to say as much as I love the company I'm not sure AAPL is where to put your money for the best return as this economy recovers and maybe many have the same thought. Not that Apple isn't as strong as it's ever been but rather other opportunities have opened up as the market recovers. That coupled with the fact that Apple is a EXPENSIVE (Not per PE and not OVERPRICED) stock at over $500 a share might really hold them back. I think the best thing management could do if they really cared about stock price is a split .... apart from that do something with all that money .... what should be a great asset sounds more like a liability when you hear WS talk about Apple's cash management. EDIT : As I finished typing that AAPL is now green and BAC is red ... I'm a genius That doesn't explain why people seem to have no problem investing in GOOG - $200 more per share, twice the P/E, and recently reported a YoY decline...
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Post by alice on Jan 7, 2013 9:08:17 GMT -8
Here's something for those that think Apple may miss this quarter: www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2013/01/07/apple-tops-50-of-the-u-s-smartphone-market/US Smartphone share: iPhone 53.3%, Android down to 41.9%. "Savitz reports, “Among iPhone buyers in November, 27% upgraded from another smartphone OS, 34% upgraded from a previous iPhone and 40% upgraded to their first smartphone.” That 27% upgrades from another smartphone, and 40% upgraded to first smartphone can only be Android (of some flavor/capability) switchers. The numbers don't add up - 27% + 40% + 34% = 101%. Shouldn't it add up to 100?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 9:13:42 GMT -8
Here's something for those that think Apple may miss this quarter: www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2013/01/07/apple-tops-50-of-the-u-s-smartphone-market/US Smartphone share: iPhone 53.3%, Android down to 41.9%. "Savitz reports, “Among iPhone buyers in November, 27% upgraded from another smartphone OS, 34% upgraded from a previous iPhone and 40% upgraded to their first smartphone.” That 27% upgrades from another smartphone, and 40% upgraded to first smartphone can only be Android (of some flavor/capability) switchers. The numbers don't add up - 27% + 40% + 34% = 101%. Shouldn't it add up to 100? I'm guessing its a rounding error.
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Post by coma on Jan 7, 2013 9:14:07 GMT -8
Most likely due to rounding.
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 7, 2013 9:17:21 GMT -8
Just a quick thought. At this point I, like many others, am completely invested in Apple .... 100% of my portfolio. Sheer Stupidity but it has paid off well until we hit the last 3 months. I was also a HUGE believer in buying BAC and did so at $3 and sold at some point to put that money in Apple because I was simply too optimistic .... at this point I have to say as much as I love the company I'm not sure AAPL is where to put your money for the best return as this economy recovers and maybe many have the same thought. Not that Apple isn't as strong as it's ever been but rather other opportunities have opened up as the market recovers. That coupled with the fact that Apple is a EXPENSIVE (Not per PE and not OVERPRICED) stock at over $500 a share might really hold them back. I think the best thing management could do if they really cared about stock price is a split .... apart from that do something with all that money .... what should be a great asset sounds more like a liability when you hear WS talk about Apple's cash management. EDIT : As I finished typing that AAPL is now green and BAC is red ... I'm a genius I was in the BAC camp in 2009. I also bought below $3 and sold above $15 to reinvest in AAPL. It was a good move then. I would not do it now. Apple has a weapon, and that weapon is cash. It is to big and something is coming. I do not know when, I do not know what, but I expect there to be another Earth shattering announcement. This is my tin foil hat speaking and cough syrup, pay me no attention.
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Post by ibuyer on Jan 7, 2013 9:20:58 GMT -8
Just a quick thought. At this point I, like many others, am I was in the BAC camp in 2009. I also bought below $3 and sold above $15 to reinvest in AAPL. It was a good move then. I would not do it now. Apple has a weapon, and that weapon is cash. It is to big and something is coming. I do not know when, I do not know what, but I expect there to be another Earth shattering announcement. This is my tin foil hat speaking and cough syrup, pay me no attention. pls pass some of that you are having
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Post by alice on Jan 7, 2013 9:23:46 GMT -8
I thought the tax selling caused aapl share price to go down the last 2 months. I don't think so now as aapl is still not moving up much. At this time, I believe aapl went down due to Oct. ER. I hope Jan ER will move aapl up.
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Post by rmhe1999 on Jan 7, 2013 9:26:40 GMT -8
Just a quick thought. At this point I, like many others, am completely invested in Apple .... 100% of my portfolio. Sheer Stupidity but it has paid off well until we hit the last 3 months. I was also a HUGE believer in buying BAC and did so at $3 and sold at some point to put that money in Apple because I was simply too optimistic .... at this point I have to say as much as I love the company I'm not sure AAPL is where to put your money for the best return as this economy recovers and maybe many have the same thought. Not that Apple isn't as strong as it's ever been but rather other opportunities have opened up as the market recovers. That coupled with the fact that Apple is a EXPENSIVE (Not per PE and not OVERPRICED) stock at over $500 a share might really hold them back. I think the best thing management could do if they really cared about stock price is a split .... apart from that do something with all that money .... what should be a great asset sounds more like a liability when you hear WS talk about Apple's cash management. EDIT : As I finished typing that AAPL is now green and BAC is red ... I'm a genius I was in the BAC camp in 2009. I also bought below $3 and sold above $15 to reinvest in AAPL. It was a good move then. I would not do it now. Apple has a weapon, and that weapon is cash. It is to big and something is coming. I do not know when, I do not know what, but I expect there to be another Earth shattering announcement. This is my tin foil hat speaking and cough syrup, pay me no attention. Sometimes I feel like some of the crazier ideas out there for use of Apple's cash are some of the best. For example, for Apple to create the TV experience they want, they need content; plain and simple. We're all aware that the content providers are hesitant to provide it to Apple for numerous reasons (loosing control of their content, become a back seat third-party provider, disruption in the TV scene similar to music and phone industries). However, with the cash on hand, apple could just BUY their content and become a juggernaut. Disney for example holds some major content in their archives as far as movies as well as TV. I just get the feeling Apple is going to say, "Company XYZ wouldn't negotiate their content with us for a reasonable sum... so we just bought their whole company with a fraction of our cash stockpile...."
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Post by alice on Jan 7, 2013 9:32:30 GMT -8
A content deal should be a win win for both parties. What is the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 9:37:03 GMT -8
I thought the tax selling caused aapl share price to go down the last 2 months. I don't think so now as aapl is still not moving up much. At this time, I believe aapl when down due to Oct. ER. There were several external factors in addition to Oct's earnings miss that pulled AAPL down. Throw in July earnings and you have a perfect storm. Consider this. The data I posted from Eric Savitz relative to iPhone share in the US (through November) has iPhone share growing from 35.8% (2011) to 53.3% (2012). That's 48.88% YoY share growth. If worldwide industry smartphone units did NOT grow through September - November, then iPhone units grew 18,086,000 to 55,086,000 units during that period. But, worldwide industry smartphone units did grow during that period. I'm very comfortable with my 56,780,000 unit estimate.
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 7, 2013 9:38:28 GMT -8
A couple of years ago I thought Apple might buy the media part of Disney even though I knew it was not something they knew anything about. I have moved on from that, they do not need to buy Disney. The CEO of Disney is a BOD member, the companies are on friendly terms. Disney is not going to introduce a phone and Apple is not going to launch a sports media empire, but they sure can work together doing what each does best.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 9:41:48 GMT -8
A couple of years ago I thought Apple might buy the media part of Disney even though I knew it was not something they knew anything about. I have moved on from that, they do not need to buy Disney. The CEO of Disney is a BOD member, the companies are on friendly terms. Disney is not going to introduce a phone and Apple is not going to launch a sports media empire, but they sure can work together doing what each does best. Exactly...just the content from Disney/ESPN would be a great start in my mind.
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