Dave
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2020 2:47:15 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2020 3:26:34 GMT -8
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Post by silkstone on Mar 12, 2020 4:43:14 GMT -8
We need to shut down all things that include large gatherings in this country at least for a couple weeks. This will allow us to get a feel for the scope of the problem here in the U.S. I want us to get thru this as soon as we can so Apple can startrising again. There will be some great buying opportunities coming but yesterday was pretty early imo. Cash is king đź’°
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Post by aaplcrazie on Mar 12, 2020 5:41:02 GMT -8
Circuit breaker tripped Trading Halted....
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Post by audiosculpture12 on Mar 12, 2020 5:57:55 GMT -8
hmm... i was thinking about adding a little here. I haven't sold any, but do have a chunk of dry powder.
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Post by playultimate on Mar 12, 2020 5:58:18 GMT -8
Where's my bunker?
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2020 6:02:54 GMT -8
It’s under quarantine.
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Post by dreamRaj on Mar 12, 2020 6:23:05 GMT -8
Looks like the Dow is heading to where it was when DJT took over.
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Post by bud777 on Mar 12, 2020 6:27:23 GMT -8
It is tempting. I have had my hand on the trigger for days. I don't see a reason to expect any good news on the virus front. The only thing we can effectively do is to make more test kits available and I do not see an effort to make that happen. While more test kits might allow us to self quarantine and limit the economic damage, it will also increase the number of reported cases and inspire more fear. So sadly, I think we are in for a long summer. On the other hand, the oil collapse is man-made and could be resolved by a handshake when SA and Russia have had enough pain. Both countries need the income, so they may just be waiting for the other to blink, or perhaps it is a concerted effort to bankrupt the U.S. Shale producers. I can see using the resolution of the oil war as a buy signal. I worry about the impact of this collapse on the financial sector. The big boys didn't engineer this crisis and many of them may not have the deep pockets needed to survive it. Look out for falling dominos. And for now, keep your powder dry.
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stub
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Post by stub on Mar 12, 2020 7:08:02 GMT -8
Bud, they DID engineer it.
Did you see that barely concealed chesser cat smile on TC when he was being interviewed about stock buy backs a week ago and he was asked "...are ya buyin'? "
Remember, the former Apple CFO (Oppenheimer) is now on the BOD of Goldman (Wall Street Mafia) Sachs.
No, there is a series of sucker plays going on here. All who are holdin' off are smart, but $ cost Average it in.
Clues: 30 day travel ban. Pay close attention to what the Federal Legislature is saying with it's proposed bills.
At the outside, I don't see this going on much past the mid-late April.
But rest assured, it will come back with vengence once the Spin Doctors (pardon the pun) give the "all clear".
By the end of this year the stock price will roar past previous ATHs.
This Psyop has been engineered for a few main reasons:
1. To cause a series of pullbacks for buy backs.
2. Do emergency rate cuts and employer payroll and other tax breaks.
3. And, more darkly, to give the State Gov'ts an excuse to force some sort of toxic treatment into the Assisted Living people (on the premise of protecting them from the virus) to do an old fashioned 3rd Reich style elderly genocide.
Also, it would appear that the Evil Overlords are testing how all of this is going over with popular opinion.
My informal survey of people reveals that everybody seems to think it's a big joke (and/or a Hoax).
We are a jaded country. Which is OK in this case.
It's not a disease that's spreading, it's a Psyop that's spreading.
It is going... (wait for it)... viral! :^D
Now you know WHY they've always used that analogy to represent something that's spreading fast on it's own.
Perhaps it's been a predictive programming hypnotic suggestion all along.
Ya think?
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Post by alxyz on Mar 12, 2020 7:18:01 GMT -8
We need to shut down all things that include large gatherings in this country at least for a couple weeks. This will allow us to get a feel for the scope of the problem here in the U.S. Until we have millions of test kits we won't make progress on this pandemic
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Post by tricouleur on Mar 12, 2020 7:21:19 GMT -8
Stub, I was looking for a /s sarcasm in your post but in utter disbelief, I realized you really believed what you wrote. What worries me more.than the pandemic is the upsurge of conspiracy theories that I hear amongst a few relatives and read in hitherto reasonable forums.
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Post by silkstone on Mar 12, 2020 7:52:41 GMT -8
Bud, they DID engineer it. Did you see that barely concealed chesser cat smile on TC when he was being interviewed about stock buy backs a week ago and he was asked "...are ya buyin'? " Remember, the former Apple CFO (Oppenheimer) is now on the BOD of Goldman (Wall Street Mafia) Sachs. No, there is a series of sucker plays going on here. All who are holdin' off are smart, but $ cost Average it in. Clues: 30 day travel ban. Pay close attention to what the Federal Legislature is saying with it's proposed bills. At the outside, I don't see this going on much past the mid-late April. But rest assured, it will come back with vengence once the Spin Doctors (pardon the pun) give the "all clear". By the end of this year the stock price will roar past previous ATHs. This Psyop has been engineered for a few main reasons: 1. To cause a series of pullbacks for buy backs. 2. Do emergency rate cuts and employer payroll and other tax breaks. 3. And, more darkly, to give the State Gov'ts an excuse to force some sort of toxic treatment into the Assisted Living people (on the premise of protecting them from the virus) to do an old fashioned 3rd Reich style elderly genocide. Also, it would appear that the Evil Overlords are testing how all of this is going over with popular opinion. My informal survey of people reveals that everybody seems to think it's a big joke (and/or a Hoax). We are a jaded country. Which is OK in this case. It's not a disease that's spreading, it's a Psyop that's spreading. It is going... (wait for it)... viral! :^D Now you know WHY they've always used that analogy to represent something that's spreading fast on it's own. Perhaps it's been a predictive programming hypnotic suggestion all along. Ya think? Yep, I don’t doubt that many are taking advantage of the situation but most of your post sounds very conspiratorial, as if you think the entire situation is being engineered
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Post by silkstone on Mar 12, 2020 7:57:30 GMT -8
We need to shut down all things that include large gatherings in this country at least for a couple weeks. This will allow us to get a feel for the scope of the problem here in the U.S. Until we have millions of test kits we won't make progress on this pandemic Depends on what you consider progress. When a problem is this big, all small positive actions represent progress imo. The nba cancelling games is progress, the federal and State governments getting serious is progress. Yes, testing is necessary but limiting group gatherings is something that actually limits transition.
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Post by JDSoCal on Mar 12, 2020 7:58:50 GMT -8
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platon
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Post by platon on Mar 12, 2020 8:12:13 GMT -8
I am in for 25% more of my original holdings (sold @ $310) @ around $256, now waiting for a stable $240 for the last 25%. Clarification-----this is not a huge amount of stock just the shares I had put back for my Grandsons which I liquidated @ $310 in an IRA. I have one Grandson who was getting antsy about being out of the stock and this is a plan we devised-----not exactly professional investing to say the least. This is all the shares of APPL that I have had for the last year or so.
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Post by aaplcrazie on Mar 12, 2020 8:15:16 GMT -8
Jumped in low 250's with a Limit Order around 25K.
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Post by silkstone on Mar 12, 2020 8:21:07 GMT -8
As easy as it was for Apple to fall all the way to $190 fifteen months ago or whenever it was, it could also be pretty easy to get there from here imo.
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Mar 12, 2020 8:23:35 GMT -8
With the level of health uncertainty created by the lack of testing, it's likely there are thousands of people walking around with the virus and passing it to others. It's contagious 5 days before symptoms start showing.
My prediction: 30-50% of the US population will get this virus. Over a million Americans will die, most in their 70s and older. Doctors and nurses will fall sick. Hospitals will be overwhelmed, and the death rate will increase as the quality of medical care goes down. Hospitals will have piles of contagious bodies they can't manage.
For people under 50, they will get a sickness that may knock them into bed for a few days but then they'll recover. However, with all the cancelations and fear, this year will become one of the worst for the US economy on record. Travel, events, and restaurants will all suffer. The people who work in those industries will suffer the most. The snowball effect on the economy from recession will be great -- possibly greater than the financial crisis.
Happy to be wrong though!
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platon
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Post by platon on Mar 12, 2020 8:24:55 GMT -8
wrong thread.
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Post by silkstone on Mar 12, 2020 8:31:18 GMT -8
With the level of health uncertainty created by the lack of testing, it's likely there are thousands of people walking around with the virus and passing it to others. It's contagious 5 days before symptoms start showing. My prediction: 30-50% of the US population will get this virus. Over a million Americans will die, most in their 70s and older. Doctors and nurses will fall sick. Hospitals will be overwhelmed, and the death rate will increase as the quality of medical care goes down. Hospitals will have piles of contagious bodies they can't manage. For people under 50, they will get a sickness that may knock them into bed for a few days but then they'll recover. However, with all the cancelations and fear, this year will become one of the worst for the US economy on record. Travel, events, and restaurants will all suffer. The people who work in those industries will suffer the most. The snowball effect on the economy from recession will be great -- possibly greater than the financial crisis. Happy to be wrong though! Yes, those scary scenarios all seem very possible to me. Hope you’re wrong but we really need to be thinking along those lines when considering when to buy more Apple. Still far from the 20 million deaths sponge predicted but he was doing better than I thought at the time.
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Post by socal Film Composer on Mar 12, 2020 9:01:08 GMT -8
Welp - with margin rates absolutely like free money - if you choose to, go ahead and add some down here - That's what I did back when we hit 155-160 range back in dec. 2018. over exposed to AAPL right now - between sep and common in non-retirement have about 284K shares in common (77K) and leaps in SEP another 210K -
But, as a Californian - I'm taking advantage of the selloff in closed end tax free munis - crazy deals out here in the Pimco CEFs for safety and income. Good luck all, this too shall pass - it's a health crisis first, ecomonic crisis 2nd. I'm predicting more or less a V shape recovery once the virus passes, governments begin to pass stimulus measures to jump start the economy. I'm remaining positive and thankful - and thankful to all of you on this board who have provided so much excellent commentary on our favorite stock and company.
At the least, I hope this will move the needle on the need for public preparedness and infrastructure for the next one - because Mother Earth is screaming back at us - 6 billion people, global connected planet and economies - we have to learn how to live safely and prudently with our resources, food supplies, and take these things seriously when they happen.
BTW - I'm super excited about the new AAPL over the ear headphones - just praying they also have a corded option as well as wireless, which might be a stretch - but in the studio wired is only acceptable when working.
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Post by hyci004 on Mar 12, 2020 9:02:54 GMT -8
Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea and China already reduced the number of new cases by having testing kits available to its citizens. It’s difficult to quarantine people without testing. In the U.S., we don’t know how extensive the infection is.
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2020 9:02:59 GMT -8
I’m thinking that when the RSI hits the 30 line or we hit the 200 day MA it may be a good indication of a bottom. But, who knows. “Blade Runner” was a classic.
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Post by zebrum on Mar 12, 2020 9:25:34 GMT -8
China is returning to normal, Korea's number is plateauing, huge preventative measures in EU and USA today. Today is probably the best day to buy this dip, but tomorrow would be fine too because of usual Friday lull.
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Mar 12, 2020 9:32:37 GMT -8
I don't see many preventative measures in the US at all... Look at Italy, where everything is closed except for supermarkets and pharmacies. Travel is prohibited without special permission. That is what could be coming.
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Post by ems on Mar 12, 2020 9:38:04 GMT -8
yeah, preventative? Really? until/unless we get some leadership that knows what it's doing, and/or someone at the top who can establish public trust, FUD is still going to continue to rule this crisis. I want to buy in more too but the falling knife thing is concerning. Something like June 2021 $300 calls are enticing...
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2020 9:38:17 GMT -8
Seeing a few spikes in the price. Could Apple be buying?
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Post by audiosculpture12 on Mar 12, 2020 9:42:09 GMT -8
I wondered that too Dave...
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Post by aaplcrazie on Mar 12, 2020 9:43:42 GMT -8
"I've seen things You People would'ant Believe"
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