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Post by Dave on Mar 18, 2020 2:41:17 GMT -8
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Post by aaplcrazie on Mar 18, 2020 5:26:37 GMT -8
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Post by zebrum on Mar 18, 2020 5:59:09 GMT -8
The way the new iPad Keyboard's trackpad pointer sticks to controls look pretty interesting, half way between the Apple TV remote and the Mac's pointer. The stand looks pretty great too.
The stock markets now in freefall I'm out for a while, reminds me of previous crashes, just a waste of time to keep guessing the bottom. My guess is 90% crash coming.
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Post by artman1033 on Mar 18, 2020 6:18:47 GMT -8
The new iPad Pro is a portable iMac. Great price point. It is the device I would buy NOW if I did not already own a MacBook Pro and an iMac. It replaces BOTH with one device. Yesterday, the rumor of this product was announced. The MacBreak Weekly smart guys and gal pooh-poohed the whole idea of this product introduction. Watch starting at 16 minute mark. link
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Post by walterwhite on Mar 18, 2020 7:07:32 GMT -8
China is returning to normal, Korea's number is plateauing, huge preventative measures in EU and USA today. Today is probably the best day to buy this dip, but tomorrow would be fine too because of usual Friday lull. I thought I'd missed out on buying the low on Friday after the closing rally so if we open 10% down today then that is a gift.Soon we'll hear about Apple's plan to re-open stores in 2 weeks time, possibly with a 2 weeks closed, 2 weeks open rotation. The stock markets now in freefall I'm out for a while, reminds me of previous crashes, just a waste of time to keep guessing the bottom. My guess is 90% crash coming. spongie, is that you?!! 🙏 😇
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Post by silkstone on Mar 18, 2020 7:20:38 GMT -8
It’s great to be invested in a company that has plenty of cash and little debt at a time like this. According to Mohammad el Erian on CNBC this morning, the market’s will have good and bad days but the over-riding trend is still down and I believe him. The best thing we as apple stock holders and US citizens can do to support heath care workers and the economy is to maintain social distancing and act as though you personally have the virus. The trillion dollar relief proposals coming out of D.C. yesterday are a needed thing but imo will not come close to fixing this mess. And I like the idea of writing off whatever U.S. debt China is holding as a way of making them responsible for this mess. Apple is in a great position to ride this out so I won’t be selling any and I will be looking to buy more in the future. It’s great to have Tim Cook in charge right now.
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Post by hledgard on Mar 18, 2020 7:22:26 GMT -8
Why is TSLA in such a freefall?
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Post by walterwhite on Mar 18, 2020 7:30:20 GMT -8
Why is TSLA in such a freefall?
elon musk didn't get the memo... called coronavirus panic 'dumb' and kept factory open (guilt-tripping employees with "i'll be there language")
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musk has been even more blase about the virus than trump; trump turned around last week, musk is still in denial
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Post by JDSoCal on Mar 18, 2020 8:16:19 GMT -8
Why is TSLA in such a freefall? elon musk didn't get the memo... called coronavirus panic 'dumb' and kept factory open (guilt-tripping employees with "i'll be there language") ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
musk has been even more blase about the virus than trump; trump turned around last week, musk is still in denial
Blase LOL. Compared to whom? Trump issued a travel ban on 13 countries on February 1st (which the nutty lefty NYTimes called "racist"), and issued the first US federal quarantine in 50 years. Name a world leader who was more proactive and ahead of the curve. Even a week ago Pelosi wanted to reverse the President's travel ban. Joe Biden also wants to reverse it and open the borders (where we have turned away scores of Chinese nationals) and suspend all deportations for 100 days! And don't get me started on Blase I mean Barack "Wait for a million cases to declare an emergency" Obama.
Funny how the EU countries suddenly rediscovered their borders after they became the epicenter of coronavirus (CNBC: With Europe now the coronavirus epicenter, fears rise over a break up of the euro zone). UK's Brexit looking a lot smarter now. Nigel Farage must be feeling quite vindicated looking at those feckless EU idjuts.
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Post by Dave on Mar 18, 2020 8:48:27 GMT -8
JD, don’t forget the toilet paper.
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Post by bud777 on Mar 18, 2020 9:09:28 GMT -8
elon musk didn't get the memo... called coronavirus panic 'dumb' and kept factory open (guilt-tripping employees with "i'll be there language") ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
musk has been even more blase about the virus than trump; trump turned around last week, musk is still in denial
Blase LOL. Compared to whom? Trump issued a travel ban on 13 countries on February 1st (which the nutty lefty NYTimes called "racist"), and issued the first US federal quarantine in 50 years. Name a world leader who was more proactive and ahead of the curve. Even a week ago Pelosi wanted to reverse the President's travel ban. Joe Biden also wants to reverse it and open the borders (where we have turned away scores of Chinese nationals) and suspend all deportations for 100 days! And don't get me started on Blase I mean Barack "Wait for a million cases to declare an emergency" Obama. Funny how the EU countries suddenly rediscovered their borders after they became the epicenter of coronavirus (CNBC: With Europe now the coronavirus epicenter, fears rise over a break up of the euro zone). UK's Brexit looking a lot smarter now. Nigel Farage must be feeling quite vindicated looking at those feckless EU idjuts. Damn it J.D. Just when I take you off my blocked member list, you post something like that. See you around the campus.
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Post by pauls on Mar 18, 2020 9:11:39 GMT -8
Trump gives himself a 10/10 in response to pandemic and saw it coming before anyone. The last 6 weeks have been a dream. Meanwhile, a huge medical and scientific chorus has been furiously warning to be prepared for many weeks. I am talking beyond your most hated/loved media source.
The ‘canary in the coal mine’ for me was ‘punching a Chinese chick in the face’. I started stocking up on that same day.
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Post by 4aapl on Mar 18, 2020 9:16:00 GMT -8
JD, don’t forget the toilet paper. Ummm, wet wipes. Covered. Our son used cloth diapers, and a service, when we were still in the bay area. But visiting grandma, she just washed them, reminding us all that that's how it used to be. One could say we've gotten Pampered. And then there's the random 100 people on the lift over the day, with one ranting about the TP run, and how worst case, you just jump in the shower after going to the bathroom. Nothing like a little bit of panic going through the herd to get everyone to be vocal about their ideas. Day 3 on the home-school thing. We might do a video-chat with the relatives, making a stuffed-shells dish. And the new snowblower in the fleet could use a carb tear-down and clean. The educational opportunities are abundant. If a 15 minute stop of the S&P doesn't even get mentioned on finance.yahoo.com, did it really happen?
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Post by BillH on Mar 18, 2020 9:25:13 GMT -8
Trump gives himself a 10/10 in response to pandemic and saw it coming before anyone. The last 6 weeks have been a dream. Meanwhile, a huge medical and scientific chorus has been furiously warning to be prepared for many weeks. I am talking beyond your most hated/loved media source. The ‘canary in the coal mine’ for me was ‘punching a Chinese chick in the face’. I started stocking up on that same day. Per a leaked government report 18 months would be more like it. arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/us-govt-expects-18-month-pandemic-with-widespread-supply-shortages/
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Post by pauls on Mar 18, 2020 9:43:33 GMT -8
Trump gives himself a 10/10 in response to pandemic and saw it coming before anyone. The last 6 weeks have been a dream. Meanwhile, a huge medical and scientific chorus has been furiously warning to be prepared for many weeks. I am talking beyond your most hated/loved media source. The ‘canary in the coal mine’ for me was ‘punching a Chinese chick in the face’. I started stocking up on that same day. Per a leaked government report 18 months would be more like it. arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/us-govt-expects-18-month-pandemic-with-widespread-supply-shortages/Terrifying. That too will be ‘fake news’ and a dem anti-trump hoax. Until it’s not. I hold out hope for less dire scenarios but I’m not a scientist. Even a two month shutdown with a very slow restart is a catastrophe few imagined even 4 weeks ago. Or even today, people are grappling with, “they said only 2weeks!”
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Post by macster on Mar 18, 2020 9:52:01 GMT -8
Trump gives himself a 10/10 in response to pandemic and saw it coming before anyone. The last 6 weeks have been a dream. Meanwhile, a huge medical and scientific chorus has been furiously warning to be prepared for many weeks. I am talking beyond your most hated/loved media source. The ‘canary in the coal mine’ for me was ‘punching a Chinese chick in the face’. I started stocking up on that same day. Remember this...
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Post by pauls on Mar 18, 2020 10:09:38 GMT -8
Trump gives himself a 10/10 in response to pandemic and saw it coming before anyone. The last 6 weeks have been a dream. Meanwhile, a huge medical and scientific chorus has been furiously warning to be prepared for many weeks. I am talking beyond your most hated/loved media source. The ‘canary in the coal mine’ for me was ‘punching a Chinese chick in the face’. I started stocking up on that same day. Remember this... Absolutely. Remember these?
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Post by walterwhite on Mar 18, 2020 10:45:04 GMT -8
MAGA!
Dow wipes out gains under Trump’s presidency
ok, so the dow is at least above election day...
what about russell 2000 (RUT) - arguably the more important index of small businesses that trump promised to help? RUT close on nov 7, 2016: 1,282 RUT low today: 966
down almost 25% since election! this is despite the huge run-up after election (to 1,400) because trump was supposed to be great for America
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Post by pauls on Mar 18, 2020 11:00:02 GMT -8
MAGA!
Dow wipes out gains under Trump’s presidency
ok, so the dow is at least above election day...
what about russell 2000 (RUT) - arguably the more important index of small businesses that trump promised to help? RUT close on nov 7, 2016: 1,282 RUT low today: 966
down almost 25% since election! this is despite the huge run-up after election (to 1,400) because trump was supposed to be great for America
I’m not sure the mkt would be much better with a true 10/10 responder. This crisis is bigger than a President. Having said that, this is war-time scenario (according to multiple world leaders including, now, Trump). In the end the first several weeks are what they are. What do we see 6 months out? At best I see a limping society in a lot of pain, infection protocols still in place, lots of businesses crushed. Possibly the biggest gov socialist giveaway in history by the time we are all vaccinated and fearing the next one. It’s the disruption more than the deaths (although the deaths are horrible).
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Post by duckpins on Mar 18, 2020 11:10:49 GMT -8
TSLA went parabolic so now it is retreating. That is actually fairly normal.
Some police departments aren't even going to take criminals to jail. Water, protein bars, wet wipes, and a shitton of ammo. I'm good.
Maybe Texas will let the Hippies out of jail who were arrested for having a seed in their pockets. Bloombergs cops had 400 murders or maybe 600 but made 600,000 arrests for weed.
Point is non violent criminals make police promotions viable. These people should never have been in jail and should be let out now.
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Post by Luckychoices on Mar 18, 2020 11:14:56 GMT -8
Trump gives himself a 10/10 in response to pandemic and saw it coming before anyone. The last 6 weeks have been a dream. Meanwhile, a huge medical and scientific chorus has been furiously warning to be prepared for many weeks. I am talking beyond your most hated/loved media source. The ‘canary in the coal mine’ for me was ‘punching a Chinese chick in the face’. I started stocking up on that same day. Remember this... Thank you, pauls!! Brilliantly done video and one that I had planned to post as soon as I saw it this morning on Twitter. Thanks so much for posting it. The video perfectly summarizes the undeniable fact of Trump's continuous failures to do the right thing. As opposed as I am to Trump, I have no problem stating that Schumer and Pelosi were both *badly* mistaken to tweet against the travel ban. They blew it, IMO. It's really the only thing that Trump got right, as far as I'm concerned and it's a shame that the Trump apologists on AFB can't be unbiased when evaluating Trump's many, many failures to combat this pandemic. Just imagine where we would be with this coronavirus threat in the U.S. if Trump had started doing, in late January, what he's finally done the last couple of days. Instead, he's been fixated on congratulating himself for quick action and given himself a 10 rating on his actions since January. Pitiful. BTW, while my wife and I were waiting to board our plane in Paris for the final leg of our flight home from Africa, I noticed a gentleman across the way from us that was wearing an American-flag-themed mask, and surprisingly enough, didn't seem at all concerned about the possibility of someone punching him in the face for it. I'm guessing that being about 6'7" and weighing probably close to 400 lbs. might have had something to do with it.
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Post by walterwhite on Mar 18, 2020 12:13:27 GMT -8
MAGA!
Dow wipes out gains under Trump’s presidency
ok, so the dow is at least above election day...
what about russell 2000 (RUT) - arguably the more important index of small businesses that trump promised to help? RUT close on nov 7, 2016: 1,282 RUT low today: 966
down almost 25% since election! this is despite the huge run-up after election (to 1,400) because trump was supposed to be great for America
I’m not sure the mkt would be much better with a true 10/10 responder. This crisis is bigger than a President. Having said that, this is war-time scenario (according to multiple world leaders including, now, Trump). In the end the first several weeks are what they are. What do we see 6 months out? At best I see a limping society in a lot of pain, infection protocols still in place, lots of businesses crushed. Possibly the biggest gov socialist giveaway in history by the time we are all vaccinated and fearing the next one. It’s the disruption more than the deaths (although the deaths are horrible).
agree on crisis bigger than the president (as in the office/institution, not the current fella) and agree on war-time scenario
disagree on market, though... the market (rightly) now anticipates a potential lengthy economic shutdown and severe recession, potentially even depression... bill ackman and el-erian both talked about it on cnbc today but what if the sitting president would not call it a 'hoax', or 'under control', or 'totally contained' or 'over with warmer weather', or 'i don't need the number of cases doubling'... what if the sitting president listened to healthcare professionals and at the very least urged caution to everyone in the country? two weeks or even one could buy us precious time
because the virus spread is exponential (i'll keep stressing this till i'm blue in the face... bad coronavirus joke! ) one or two weeks can make a difference between a small economic blip and 20% unemployment rate as mnuchin now warns... obviously that would also make a difference in the stock market!
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Post by 4aapl on Mar 18, 2020 12:15:26 GMT -8
Bought a little SPY with 5-8 minutes left in the day, and it's up 4.5 points from then to close.
We're in a roller coaster cycle, as Mark Cuban said in a story on the Stocks app this morning, going up one day and down the next.
It's hard to know how long this cycle will last. But playing it a little could make some cash, while also flattening out these waves just the tiniest bit. After all, I'm playing with a bit less than Cuban, even if he's only talking about dipping a toe of 1% in.
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Post by walterwhite on Mar 18, 2020 12:20:55 GMT -8
Trump gives himself a 10/10 in response to pandemic and saw it coming before anyone. The last 6 weeks have been a dream. Meanwhile, a huge medical and scientific chorus has been furiously warning to be prepared for many weeks. I am talking beyond your most hated/loved media source. The ‘canary in the coal mine’ for me was ‘punching a Chinese chick in the face’. I started stocking up on that same day.
agree on all that you sad here
optimistically, there's still a chance i think to "flatten the curve"
paradoxically, the earlier people are worried (and the more of them are worried), the better the containment
it seems to me at least half the country as of last week was nonchalant about the whole think ... trump, musk and our own jd (whether he's improved his boxing technique or not)... trump has now firmly moved to the other side, though it took a severe bear market to shake him out of complacency
so now we see if it's enough understanding in the country to prevent the worst
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Post by pauls on Mar 18, 2020 12:42:52 GMT -8
I’m not sure the mkt would be much better with a true 10/10 responder. This crisis is bigger than a President. Having said that, this is war-time scenario (according to multiple world leaders including, now, Trump). In the end the first several weeks are what they are. What do we see 6 months out? At best I see a limping society in a lot of pain, infection protocols still in place, lots of businesses crushed. Possibly the biggest gov socialist giveaway in history by the time we are all vaccinated and fearing the next one. It’s the disruption more than the deaths (although the deaths are horrible).
agree on crisis bigger than the president (as in the office/institution, not the current fella) and agree on war-time scenario
disagree on market, though... the market (rightly) now anticipates a potential lengthy economic shutdown and severe recession, potentially even depression... bill ackman and el-erian both talked about it on cnbc today but what if the sitting president would not call it a 'hoax', or 'under control', or 'totally contained' or 'over with warmer weather', or 'i don't need the number of cases doubling'... what if the sitting president listened to healthcare professionals and at the very least urged caution to everyone in the country? two weeks or even one could buy us precious time
because the virus spread is exponential (i'll keep stressing this till i'm blue in the face... bad coronavirus joke! ) one or two weeks can make a difference between a small economic blip and 20% unemployment rate as mnuchin now warns... obviously that would also make a difference in the stock market! Well yes I think most would agree the last 6 weeks could have been different. But it would have been a hard sell, politically, to shut down entire nation with only 15 infections. Sober and uniting rhetoric would have been a godsend but we have a trump. I think his many attempts to minimize the threat are a train wreck we all watched in real-time, while valuable time was lost. I don’t see how he survives in Nov. it would take a war on top of this war. Or martial law. Not saying either are likely but not inconceivable. I’m mostly just trying to look forward at this point.
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Post by firestorm on Mar 18, 2020 13:36:03 GMT -8
The newest statistics from Italy show 35,713 Coronavirus infections to date, with 2,978 of those dead, for a death rate of 8.3%, or as JD would say, 0.083.
By the way, awesome new Apple products to enjoy during the apocalypse!
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Post by BillH on Mar 18, 2020 14:05:33 GMT -8
This from last weekend. Sounds pretty similar to the leaked government report that came out today. I'm guessing Scott Cook is the founder of Intuit.
UCSF BioHub Panel on COVID-19 Arranged by Scott Cook, invited by Lisle Payne March 10, 2020
Panelists Joe DeRisi: UCSF’s top infectious disease researcher. Co-president of ChanZuckerberg BioHub (a JV involving UCSF / Berkeley / Stanford). Co-inventor of the chip used in SARS epidemic. Emily Crawford: COVID task force director. Focused on diagnostics Cristina Tato: Rapid Response Director. Immunologist. Patrick Ayescue: Leading outbreak response and surveillance. Epidemiologist. Chaz Langelier: UCSF Infectious Disease doc
What’s below are essentially direct quotes from the panelists. I bracketed the few things that are not quotes. Top takeaways At this point, we are past containment. Containment is basically futile. Our containment efforts won’t reduce the number who get infected in the US. Now we’re just trying to slow the spread, to help healthcare providers deal with the demand peak. In other words, the goal of containment is to "flatten the curve", to lower the peak of the surge of demand that will hit healthcare providers. And to buy time, in hopes a drug can be developed. How many in the community already have the virus? No one knows. We are moving from containment to care. We in the US are currently where at where Italy was a week ago. We see nothing to say we will be substantially different. 40-70% of the US population will be infected over the next 12-18 months. After that level you can start to get herd immunity. Unlike flu this is entirely novel to humans, so there is no latent immunity in the global population. [We used their numbers to work out a guesstimate of deaths— indicating about 1.5 million Americans may die. The panelists did not disagree with our estimate. This compares to seasonal flu’s average of 50K Americans per year. Assume 50% of US population, that’s 160M people infected. With 1% mortality rate that's 1.6M Americans die over the next 12-18 months.] The fatality rate is in the range of 10X flu. This assumes no drug is found effective and made available. The death rate varies hugely by age. Over age 80 the mortality rate could be 10-15%. [See chart by age Signe found online, attached at bottom.] Don’t know whether COVID-19 is seasonal but if is and subsides over the summer, it is likely to roar back in fall as the 1918 flu did I can only tell you two things definitively. Definitively it’s going to get worse before it gets better. And we'll be dealing with this for the next year at least. Our lives are going to look different for the next year.
What should we do now? What are you doing for your family? Appears one can be infectious before being symptomatic. They don’t know how infectious before symptomatic, but know that highest level of virus prevalence coincides with symptoms. They currently think folks are infectious 2 days before through 14 days after onset of symptoms (T-2 to T+14 onset). How long does the virus last? On surfaces, best guess is 4-20 hours depending on surface type (maybe a few days) but still no consensus on this The virus is very susceptible to common anti-bacterial cleaning agents: bleach, hydrogen peroxide, alcohol-based. Avoid concerts, movies, crowded places. We have cancelled business travel. Do the basic hygiene, eg hand washing and avoiding touching face. Stockpile your critical prescription medications. Many pharma supply chains run through China. Pharma companies usually hold 2-3 months of raw materials, so may run out given the disruption in China’s manufacturing. Pneumonia shot might be helpful. Not preventative of COVID-19, but reduces your chance of being weakened, which makes COVID-19 more dangerous. Get a flu shot next fall. Not preventative of COVID-19, but reduces your chance of being weakened, which makes COVID-19 more dangerous. We would say “Anyone over 60 stay at home unless critical”. CDC toyed with idea of saying anyone over 60 not travel on commercial airlines. UCSF staff are moving their “at-risk” parents back from nursing homes, etc. to their own homes. Then are not letting them out of the house. The other members of the family are washing hands the moment they come in. Three routes of infection Hand to mouth / face Aerosol transmission Fecal oral route
What if someone is sick? If someone gets sick, have them stay home and socially isolate. There is very little you can do at a hospital that you couldn’t do at home. Most cases are mild. But if they are old or have lung or cardio-vascular problems, read on. If someone gets quite sick who is old (70+) or with lung or cardio-vascular problems, take them to the ER. There is no accepted treatment for COVID-19. The hospital will give supportive care (eg IV fluids, oxygen) to help you stay alive while your body fights the disease. ie to prevent sepsis. If someone gets sick who is high risk (eg is both old and has lung/cardio-vascular problems), you can try to get them enrolled for “compassionate use" of Remdesivir, a drug that is in clinical trial at San Francisco General and UCSF, and in China. Need to find a doc there in order to ask to enroll. Remdesivir is an anti-viral from Gilead that showed effectiveness against MERS in primates and is being tried against COVID-19. If the trials succeed it might be available for next winter as production scales up far faster for drugs than for vaccines. [More I found online.] Why is the fatality rate much higher for older adults? Your immune system declines past age 50 Fatality rate tracks closely with “co-morbidity”, ie the presence of other conditions that compromise the patient’s hearth, especially respiratory or cardio-vascular illness. These conditions are higher in older adults. Risk of pneumonia is higher in older adults.
What about testing to know if someone has COVID-19? Bottom line, there is not enough testing capacity to be broadly useful. Here’s why. Currently, there is no way to determine what a person has other than a PCR test. No other test can yet distinguish "COVID-19 from flu or from the other dozen respiratory bugs that are circulating”. A Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test can detect COVID-19’s RNA. However they still don’t have confidence in the test’s specificity, ie they don’t know the rate of false negatives. The PCR test requires kits with reagents and requires clinical labs to process the kits. While the kits are becoming available, the lab capacity is not growing. The leading clinical lab firms, Quest and Labcore have capacity to process 1000 kits per day. For the nation. Expanding processing capacity takes “time, space, and equipment.” And certification. ie it won’t happen soon. UCSF and UCBerkeley have donated their research labs to process kits. But each has capacity to process only 20-40 kits per day. And are not clinically certified. Novel test methods are on the horizon, but not here now and won’t be at any scale to be useful for the present danger.
How well is society preparing for the impact? Local hospitals are adding capacity as we speak. UCSF’s Parnassus campus has erected “triage tents” in a parking lot. They have converted a ward to “negative pressure” which is needed to contain the virus. They are considering re-opening the shuttered Mt Zion facility. If COVID-19 affected children then we would be seeing mass departures of families from cities. But thankfully now we know that kids are not affected. School closures are one the biggest societal impacts. We need to be thoughtful before we close schools, especially elementary schools because of the knock-on effects. If elementary kids are not in school then some hospital staff can’t come to work, which decreases hospital capacity at a time of surging demand for hospital services. Public Health systems are prepared to deal with short-term outbreaks that last for weeks, like an outbreak of meningitis. They do not have the capacity to sustain for outbreaks that last for months. Other solutions will have to be found. What will we do to handle behavior changes that can last for months? Many employees will need to make accommodations for elderly parents and those with underlying conditions and immune-suppressed. Kids home due to school closures [Dr. DeRisi had to leave the meeting for a call with the governor’s office. When he returned he said the call covered:] The epidemiological models the state is using to track and trigger action. The state is planning at what point they will take certain actions. ie what will trigger an order to cease any gatherings of over 1000 people.
Where do you find reliable news? NOTE BY GGG: krebsonsecurity warns bad guys are using the Hopkin site to distribute malware. The John Hopkins Center for Health Security site. Which posts daily updates. The site says you can sign up to receive a daily newsletter on COVID-19 by email. The New York Times is good on scientific accuracy.
Observations on China Unlike during SARS, China’s scientists are publishing openly and accurately on COVID-19. While China’s early reports on incidence were clearly low, that seems to trace to their data management systems being overwhelmed, not to any bad intent. Wuhan has 4.3 beds per thousand while US has 2.8 beds per thousand. Wuhan built 2 additional hospitals in 2 weeks. Even so, most patients were sent to gymnasiums to sleep on cots. Early on no one had info on COVID-19. So China reacted in a way unique modern history, except in wartime.
Every few years there seems another: SARS, Ebola, MERS, H1N1, COVID-19. Growing strains of antibiotic resistant bacteria. Are we in the twilight of a century of medicine’s great triumph over infectious disease?
"We’ve been in a back and forth battle against viruses for a million years." This is another chapter. But it would sure help if every country would shut down their wet markets. As with many things, the worst impact of COVID-19 will likely be in the countries with the least resources, eg Africa. See article on Wired magazine on sequencing of virus from Cambodia.
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Post by walterwhite on Mar 18, 2020 15:44:08 GMT -8
a bit melodramatic for sure (and too alarmist even for the current situation), but he makes a lot of good points about importance of containment
Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall Mr Trump, shut down this country! 🇺🇸😷
(ackman also suggests elon musk should re-direct tesla factories to 'build a better ventilator' but that's like asking the wind to stop blowing)
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Post by macster on Mar 18, 2020 16:01:23 GMT -8
Prepare for more pain. China will probably not go forth with all the phase one trade deal at least in the near term.
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Post by macster on Mar 18, 2020 16:36:07 GMT -8
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