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Post by jeffi on Jan 20, 2013 11:21:07 GMT -8
Low "as defined to other stocks" is irrelevant. Why? Respectfully.
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Post by lovemyipad on Jan 20, 2013 11:30:30 GMT -8
Low "as defined to other stocks" is irrelevant. Why? Respectfully. See me in the new thread.
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Post by Mav on Jan 20, 2013 11:31:00 GMT -8
My tone is not at all off base. You specifically said "many on this board" only after you said:
"In other words, blaming shorts appears misplaced although not as bad as blaming a conspiracy on pinning action on option expiration day that is largely the mechanical action of option contracts being closed."
If, before our discussion, no one was blaming shorts for anything, and then you say "blaming shorts", what conclusions am I to draw? It's not defensiveness. It's nuance.
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Post by Mav on Jan 20, 2013 11:33:37 GMT -8
Low "as defined to other stocks" is irrelevant. Pop quiz: "How well would you expect AAPL to be doing if short interest was 5%?" If you can't form a good guess (there are at least two plausible answers), you need a better idea of AAPL's short interest since 2008. The highest short interest for AAPL in recent memory was about 28M shares, or something around 3% short interest. I don't think I need to tell anyone where AAPL was trading during that time.
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Post by fas550 on Jan 20, 2013 12:01:40 GMT -8
If I may make a suggestion. Remember context and certainly tone are frequently lost in text communication. Given tension is quite high right now perhaps instead of initially thinking someone is attacking or thinking the worse might I suggest giving them the benefit of the doubt; at least initially. This is a great board and it serves such a range value to the members so let's make an effort in tough times to keep it that way. Anyone can be forgivable in the best of times.
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Post by nagrani on Jan 20, 2013 12:04:05 GMT -8
Plus one.
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Post by lovemyipad on Jan 20, 2013 12:10:37 GMT -8
fas, what a lovely post -- thank you!!!
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Post by rob_london on Jan 20, 2013 12:15:54 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Jan 20, 2013 12:16:02 GMT -8
Hey iPad, maybe I asked this before, but when some traders talk oscillators, where are they specifically looking?
Chaikin/McClellan on the SPY? Daily timeframe? I know Redler has a oscillator with a range of +/- 60 or so.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jan 20, 2013 12:45:23 GMT -8
fas, what a lovely post -- thank you!!! I agree....I'm as nervous as Donald Trump's hair in a windstorm. Something's going to turn one way or the other next Wednesday. Waiting is no joy....
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Post by Mav on Jan 20, 2013 12:54:40 GMT -8
Cash is the ultimate hedge. Or puts if you must.
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Post by fariba on Jan 20, 2013 12:56:49 GMT -8
the more aapl sits on 500 and knocks on that level, the weaker the chart gets. earnings can change this. the earnings trumps everything and can change the technicals. that is why we have indecision in the chart both on a TA and EW basis. the chart is hinged now on the earnings. we need buying with volume to move us above 555. ...we need this quickly. this is buying and not of the short covering caliber. short covering will add some fuel. we needs funds to come and buy. we will see if it happens on 1/24 post earning. company directors have to be long term minded; but it does not mean that they don't want their company stock to do well on the short and ontermediate term. these people all have egos. if we are to beleive the emotive tone of mr cook when he talked about aapl, he has a lot of himself invested in this company, this jewel, as he described it. it is our fruit; it is their jewel. only a fool does not beleive that cook and company have a lot invested in this earnings, the aapl brand, and the defense against all the fud for the past 3 months. 1/23 is aapl's turn to address all that fud,rumor, apple on the death bed, apple on decline, apple as a noninnovative has been...hope we have a knock out, muhammad ali style.
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Post by fas550 on Jan 20, 2013 13:12:02 GMT -8
fas, what a lovely post -- thank you!!! ..I'm as nervous as Donald Trump's hair in a windstorm ... That is classic. Got to remember that one.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jan 20, 2013 13:31:27 GMT -8
..I'm as nervous as Donald Trump's hair in a windstorm ... That is classic. Got to remember that one. Ask Lovey to put it in the Quotable quotes archives....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 13:44:12 GMT -8
I was lurking on the old AFB since 2008 and then started to participate and eventually made my way over to Lovey's Place when she hung her shingle out. I don't think that in all this time - INCLUDING THE DAY AFTER SJ'S DEATH - I have felt such uncertainty with which way this stock is going and how earnings will be. There are usually a few - at a minimum - who are very confident with their numbers. I see none of that this time around. Maybe AAPL has shown us that they can be fallible or maybe they have shaken many of us to the core - literally. I personally have never felt this uneasy which is why my positions are much smaller...but I just know how upset I will be if they are good and I am not all in - damn! You can count at least one very confident board member in me Phoebes! I'm fully loaded with calls and spreads going into next weeks earnings (LEAPS) IMO, we see minimum EPS above $14, and I think likely $16. ($16.27c to be precise) The positive surprises possible for the earnings report outnumber the negative possibilities.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 13:50:40 GMT -8
the more aapl sits on 500 and knocks on that level, the weaker the chart gets. earnings can change this. the earnings trumps everything and can change the technicals. that is why we have indecision in the chart both on a TA and EW basis. the chart is hinged now on the earnings. we need buying with volume to move us above 555. ...we need this quickly. this is buying and not of the short covering caliber. short covering will add some fuel. we needs funds to come and buy. we will see if it happens on 1/24 post earning. company directors have to be long term minded; but it does not mean that they don't want their company stock to do well on the short and ontermediate term. these people all have egos. if we are to beleive the emotive tone of mr cook when he talked about aapl, he has a lot of himself invested in this company, this jewel, as he described it. it is our fruit; it is their jewel. only a fool does not beleive that cook and company have a lot invested in this earnings, the aapl brand, and the defense against all the fud for the past 3 months. 1/23 is aapl's turn to address all that fud,rumor, apple on the death bed, apple on decline, apple as a noninnovative has been...hope we have a knock out, muhammad ali style. The charts are waiting on earnings? As in Fundamentals?!? If this isn't a positive sign I don't know what is.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 20, 2013 13:55:11 GMT -8
I was lurking on the old AFB since 2008 and then started to participate and eventually made my way over to Lovey's Place when she hung her shingle out. I don't think that in all this time - INCLUDING THE DAY AFTER SJ'S DEATH - I have felt such uncertainty with which way this stock is going and how earnings will be. There are usually a few - at a minimum - who are very confident with their numbers. I see none of that this time around. Maybe AAPL has shown us that they can be fallible or maybe they have shaken many of us to the core - literally. I personally have never felt this uneasy which is why my positions are much smaller...but I just know how upset I will be if they are good and I am not all in - damn! You can count at least one very confident board member in me Phoebes! I'm fully loaded with calls and spreads going into next weeks earnings (LEAPS) IMO, we see minimum EPS above $14, and I think likely $16. ($16.27c to be precise) The positive surprises possible for the earnings report outnumber the negative possibilities. Good for you Burgess! I wish you green for as far as the eyes can see! You are brave and deserve the reward! Maybe Tuesday and Wed. action will have me nibbling a bit more...been more conservative as of late but HAVE to have skin in the game...just have to!
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Post by rosie on Jan 20, 2013 13:57:43 GMT -8
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Post by PikesPique on Jan 20, 2013 14:04:38 GMT -8
The one CNBC video you should watch this year. Reposted because it's just that good. You can just mute/close your eyes when the CNBC talking heads pop up. That was awesome. Amazing how they keep baiting him, but he's smart and has the right answer each time. I finally got around to watching this video. (Seriously, CNBC? You still have flash video? I had to "click to flash" on my Mac - couldn't watch on iPad. How 2004!) Pollatta was great. Those CNBC talking heads truly are idiots. Reminds me why I never watch them. I wish I could have watched this video on YouTube so I wouldn't give CNBC the page hit!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 14:15:45 GMT -8
Good idea trying to take our minds off of earnings for the long weekend.
Looking at other Apple like disruptive companies to invest in, anyone have any suggestions for candidates?
The only other company I have found so far is Tesla motors - at present they are ramping up production of an extremely desirable high margin product, and are supply limited (they have almost completely sold out of there planned 2013 production).
Plus Elon Musk (Tesla & SpaceX) in my view will have as great (if not greater) an effect on the world as Steve Jobs did.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 20, 2013 14:32:31 GMT -8
I pass judgement on all the naysayers who have something negative to say about AAPL. Meanwhile, as I'm watching the 49ers vs. Falcons in the play-offs I am noticing several AAPL commercials and I turn and say to my husband, "You think everything is ok at AAPL? They keep playing commercials!" He turns to me and shakes his head and said, " Stop saying the word AAPL for the rest of tonight. Just TRY." Oh well.
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Post by fariba on Jan 20, 2013 14:38:33 GMT -8
phoebear. relax and stop worrying. it won't change anything. charts' at the knife edge. indecision with the doji. ew waves keep extending. everything and everyone are holding their breath for the 1/23. 3 months of apple is dead, dying, on life support, buried, no growth, no innovation, the end of aapl....this earning and how cook addresses these suppositions and statements( because so may are sure apple is finished)will forge the path at this fork. a decisive move over 550-555 with volume over 2-3 days..will heal the chart
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jan 20, 2013 14:39:10 GMT -8
I pass judgement on all the naysayers who have something negative to say about AAPL. Meanwhile, as I'm watching the 49ers vs. Falcons in the play-offs I am noticing several AAPL commercials and I turn and say to my husband, "You think everything is ok at AAPL? They keep playing commercials!" He turns to me and shakes his head and said, " Stop saying the word AAPL for the rest of tonight. Just TRY." Oh well. I'm watching a fairly effective commercial for Samsung during the game ( unicorns) and that T-mobile lady in the pink and black jumpsuit is still flying all over the country.... Everyone advertises....
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 20, 2013 14:41:49 GMT -8
Phoebes, I am watching the game also. Does not look good for the Birds. I have always complained that Apple does not advertise enough, I won't start complaining when they do start advertising during big events. The Samsung commercial was just as annoying as all the others.
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 20, 2013 14:44:29 GMT -8
I'm watching a fairly effective commercial for Samsung during the game ( unicorns) and that T-mobile lady in the pink and black jumpsuit is still flying all over the country.... Everyone advertises.... Agree Red, but Apple has not advertised as much in the past, I like it.
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 20, 2013 14:47:21 GMT -8
Got a bad feeling they are going to overturn that catch.
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Post by Mav on Jan 20, 2013 14:57:00 GMT -8
It's a kinda doji on the daily.
The weekly is a bit different.
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Post by Mav on Jan 20, 2013 14:59:11 GMT -8
We got ourselves a game here.
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Post by Mav on Jan 20, 2013 15:02:36 GMT -8
I WANT CAKE NOW!
I WANT IT NOW!
(/bad lip reading)
Nice comeback, Niners.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 20, 2013 15:09:32 GMT -8
LOVED Jim Harbaugh's little sideline tantrum when his challenge wasn't overturned - too funny...finally put a smile on my face this weekend. (And DeBartolo looks like My Cousin Vinny - hilarious! ;D)
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