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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 1:52:57 GMT -8
I am the author of the TV Primer article. While I had initially decided to leave out the US networks' international dealings to keep the flow going, reading your comments made me realize that was a mistake, and so it's now in there. Thank you. Thanks for visiting Alan! Great to see the positive response to feedback. I was going to mention TV show DVD box sets as well, but I presume that is a tiny market? (even smaller now due to Netflix)?
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Post by douglasstanton on Feb 1, 2013 22:13:49 GMT -8
I read on BBC news that a rocket attempting to put a satellite into orbit failed and crashed into the Pacific. The satellite was to provide direct to home TV services and mobile broadband connections. Direct to home? Hmmm ..
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Post by awolk on Feb 2, 2013 2:10:14 GMT -8
Thanks for visiting Alan! Great to see the positive response to feedback. I was going to mention TV show DVD box sets as well, but I presume that is a tiny market? (even smaller now due to Netflix)? You are very welcome and correct on both counts: DVD sales are a nice extra but are a declining revenue source thanks to Netflix, Amazon et al who are busy buying up the back catalogs. There's still some traction for say an HBO, where honest people might buy DVDs of a series they missed because they don't get HBO. If you look at the 50 Top Selling DVDs of 2012, only 4 were TV series, 2 from HBO (GOT and True Blood), 1 network show (Big Bang Theory) and 1 from PBS (Downton Abbey) - www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/annual/r2012.phpThe other thing I left out so as not to confuse the narrative, is that most networks don't actually create their own original programming - they buy it from studios - that's it's own ecosystem and will be included in the book-length version of the article
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Post by nathanstevens on Feb 2, 2013 8:08:36 GMT -8
I just watched the first couple episodes of the Netflix original series House of Cards. It's a great show and I think it will pave the way for more big budget content from sources other than the major networks. Netflix released the entire "season" yesterday commercial free. It is so much better than watching a commercial laden series on the networks. I think that will be good for the future of ATV as Apple will likely have a better bargaining position with these non-network content creators.
I also noticed lots of prominent iPhones and iMacs with a few Dell shots.
The ATV box as it stands is just a few software tweaks and content sources away from being a major threat to the network model. I know that some will disagree, but I don't think that an apple display is required for the ATV to be successful.
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Post by Big Al on Feb 14, 2013 2:29:42 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 23:35:43 GMT -8
I've ALWAYS seen it as the future of gaming (see my original post on this thread). I'm picking we will see it alongside the A7x powered Apple TV
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Post by PikesPique on Feb 15, 2013 7:12:40 GMT -8
I had a dream last night:
Apple event soon to announce AppleTV Pro. Tim comes on stage and says AppleTV has been a hobby for the past several years. Relates how many units have sold this past year and what that growth rate was. Says how great the AppleTV has been. But now, it is no longer just a hobby. Introduces the new AppleTV Pro. An iOS device using the latest Ax chip, fantastic graphics processors, etc. Supports Apps, such as games, Netflix, Hulu, etc. Can use iOS devices as remote (iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, etc). Easier to navigate interface. Better discovery mechanism. All things we would expect. Oh, yes, and can use Siri, too.
But, what would make a great product even better? Great content from our partners. Shows several content providers such as ABC, NBC, Nat Geo, History Channel, TLC, Disney, and ESPN. More to come. Content is on demand and can be purchased ala carte or via subscription. Free (or lower cost) live broadcast, if willing to watch commercials.
Also, can use AppleTV as set top box for several cable providers, as well.
Includes DVR and connection for external storage.
Tim tells audience they are working with TV manufacturers, like Sharp and Loewe, to produce Apple editions of TV sets, available in Apple stores or online.
SDK to be introduced at WWDC, allowing devs to build regular iOS apps as well as TV oriented apps, such as content enhancement apps. Shows one built by ESPN which shows a game playing live in a panel surrounded by stats, social (Twitter, etc) feeds, access to highlights, replays, etc.
Well, I can dream, can't I?
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Post by nathanstevens on Feb 15, 2013 7:30:00 GMT -8
I had a dream last night: Apple event soon to announce AppleTV Pro. Tim comes on stage and says AppleTV has been a hobby for the past several years. Relates how many units have sold this past year and what that growth rate was. Says how great the AppleTV has been. But now, it is no longer just a hobby. Introduces the new AppleTV Pro. An iOS device using the latest Ax chip, fantastic graphics processors, etc. Supports Apps, such as games, Netflix, Hulu, etc. Can use iOS devices as remote (iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, etc). Easier to navigate interface. Better discovery mechanism. All things we would expect. Oh, yes, and can use Siri, too. But, what would make a great product even better? Great content from our partners. Shows several content providers such as ABC, NBC, Nat Geo, History Channel, TLC, Disney, and ESPN. More to come. Content is on demand and can be purchased ala carte or via subscription. Free (or lower cost) live broadcast, if willing to watch commercials. Also, can use AppleTV as set top box for several cable providers, as well. Includes DVR and connection for external storage. Tim tells audience they are working with TV manufacturers, like Sharp and Loewe, to produce Apple editions of TV sets, available in Apple stores or online. SDK to be introduced at WWDC, allowing devs to build regular iOS apps as well as TV oriented apps, such as content enhancement apps. Shows one built by ESPN which shows a game playing live in a panel surrounded by stats, social (Twitter, etc) feeds, access to highlights, replays, etc. Well, I can dream, can't I? It's not weird to like others dreams is it?
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Post by PikesPique on Feb 15, 2013 7:41:55 GMT -8
Not as long as it isn't the one I used to have where I showed up in high school with no clothes on. :-)
I know, TMI.
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Post by qualitywte on Feb 15, 2013 20:50:57 GMT -8
I had a dream last night: Apple event soon to announce AppleTV Pro. Tim comes on stage and says AppleTV has been a hobby for the past several years. Relates how many units have sold this past year and what that growth rate was. Says how great the AppleTV has been. But now, it is no longer just a hobby. Introduces the new AppleTV Pro. An iOS device using the latest Ax chip, fantastic graphics processors, etc. Supports Apps, such as games, Netflix, Hulu, etc. Can use iOS devices as remote (iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, etc). Easier to navigate interface. Better discovery mechanism. All things we would expect. Oh, yes, and can use Siri, too. But, what would make a great product even better? Great content from our partners. Shows several content providers such as ABC, NBC, Nat Geo, History Channel, TLC, Disney, and ESPN. More to come. Content is on demand and can be purchased ala carte or via subscription. Free (or lower cost) live broadcast, if willing to watch commercials. Also, can use AppleTV as set top box for several cable providers, as well. Includes DVR and connection for external storage. Tim tells audience they are working with TV manufacturers, like Sharp and Loewe, to produce Apple editions of TV sets, available in Apple stores or online. SDK to be introduced at WWDC, allowing devs to build regular iOS apps as well as TV oriented apps, such as content enhancement apps. Shows one built by ESPN which shows a game playing live in a panel surrounded by stats, social (Twitter, etc) feeds, access to highlights, replays, etc. Well, I can dream, can't I? Seems Misek has similar dreams: www.razorianfly.com/2013/02/13/misek-apples-television-focused-media-event-set-for-next-month/
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Post by PikesPique on Feb 16, 2013 7:05:13 GMT -8
Please don't put me in the same camp as Misek.
Personally, I don't think Apple will produce a Apple television set. I do think they can add so many features to the existing AppleTV device, however. I've posted before, perhaps on AFB1, a long list of features that would make AppleTV a killer product, without the need for an actual Apple television.
Unlike Misek, I am merely speculating/dreaming. I don't claim to know if or when or what.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 15:28:18 GMT -8
Please don't put me in the same camp as Misek. Personally, I don't think Apple will produce a Apple television set. I do think they can add so many features to the existing AppleTV device, however. I've posted before, perhaps on AFB1, a long list of features that would make AppleTV a killer product, without the need for an actual Apple television. Unlike Misek, I am merely speculating/dreaming. I don't claim to know if or when or what. I disagree - within a few short years, every TV that ships will be a powerful smart TV that already has stores, apps & services built into their primary interface ("input zero"), complete with webcams & microphones, and direct access/control from smartphones. Apple would have no chance with a set top box that plugs into "input 1". Apple can either continue selling the set top box at a low ASP and profit per device and rely on ecosystem sales to drive some profits (the amazon model) or it can switch to a hybrid business model of selling both the low profit Apple TV set top box AS WELL as a premium smart TV with high gross margins and profits, that would have all the benefits of being on "input zero", and have all the extra hardware features a screen form factor adds over a restricted set top box (cameras, microphones, ambient light and sound sensors). IMO, i have yet to be convinced of a reason why apple shouldn't release a HDTV alongside the set top box. And to top it all off it gets rid of one extra power cord, gets rid of one extra Hdmi cable, and of course gets rid of one extra remote control.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 14:59:59 GMT -8
Anyone interested in Apple TV should have a listen to this: 5by5.tv/screentime/40Great discussion featuring: Horace Dediu, Guy English and Moisés Chiullan Some interesting info, including: The current Apple TV actually does not have any individual apps on it, everything on it is the springboard launcher and XML tags to online feeds etc. The forthcoming "iOS in the car" is essentially just an Airplay based system with some touch screen feedback. All apple is providing to the automobile partners is details of an Airplay type specification - apple is not providing any sort of hardware or OS etc.
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Post by Mav on Jul 8, 2013 18:50:34 GMT -8
Considering the disparate automakers "supporting" iOS in the car, that doesn't strike me as much of a surprise.
What DOES surprise me, a bit, is Apple more or less being forced to change up the iOS interface here and there for the various in-car screens being used. Not necessarily a huge deal if a given automaker mostly standardizes, but then there's the whole "is it a plain screen, is it a touchscreen, is it a multi-touch screen, if the actual screen is interactive, can the consumer interact with iOS through the screen, what's the resolution of the display, etc." I'm sure Apple has some mild influence over this, but no way would it have control. Apple could of course have adaptive programming for whatever model supports iOS in the Car.
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