Dave
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Post by Dave on Feb 4, 2021 1:36:34 GMT -8
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Post by SomeJuan on Feb 4, 2021 1:39:52 GMT -8
Lol, Daves not here!
Up in smoke...
Up $2.30 now
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Feb 4, 2021 1:51:08 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Feb 4, 2021 2:12:09 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Feb 4, 2021 2:21:03 GMT -8
Widespread Apple system outagesThis doesn’t give you a warm fuzzy feeling of confidence if you’re setting in your self-driving car and the monitor starts showing that beach ball of doom. Just sayin.
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Post by Dave on Feb 4, 2021 4:19:40 GMT -8
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Post by Lstream on Feb 4, 2021 6:17:37 GMT -8
Widespread Apple system outagesThis doesn’t give you a warm fuzzy feeling of confidence if you’re setting in your self-driving car and the monitor starts showing that beach ball of doom. Just sayin. Any autonomous vehicle will go places where there is no network at all, or where the network is congested or unreliable. Meaning “outages” would be a fact if life, and therefore today’s concept of an outage would be irrelevant. A car cannot depend on services that these outages are referring to.
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Post by bud777 on Feb 4, 2021 8:55:23 GMT -8
Widespread Apple system outagesThis doesn’t give you a warm fuzzy feeling of confidence if you’re setting in your self-driving car and the monitor starts showing that beach ball of doom. Just sayin. Any autonomous vehicle will go places where there is no network at all, or where the network is congested or unreliable. Meaning “outages” would be a fact if life, and therefore today’s concept of an outage would be irrelevant. A car cannot depend on services that these outages are referring to. Despite the impossibility of ubiquitous reliable networks, Musk just keeps building Starlink, 1000 satellites at a time. This ain't your Dad's IRIDIUM. but I confess, I do not know this field nor its vulnerability to telluric currents. Still, I am optimistic.
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Post by Lstream on Feb 4, 2021 9:47:07 GMT -8
Any autonomous vehicle will go places where there is no network at all, or where the network is congested or unreliable. Meaning “outages” would be a fact if life, and therefore today’s concept of an outage would be irrelevant. A car cannot depend on services that these outages are referring to. Despite the impossibility of ubiquitous reliable networks, Musk just keeps building Starlink, 1000 satellites at a time. This ain't your Dad's IRIDIUM. but I confess, I do not know this field nor its vulnerability to telluric currents. Still, I am optimistic. Funny, that you mention Starlink. I am in the beta test program as of late December. This system is targeted at "cells" where there are relatively few people per cell. Rural areas for example. The system cannot deliver full connectivity coverage in high density areas. It doesn't have the throughput to do that. Musk has said that himself. So, it won't be applicable to the autonomous vehicle market. However, in its target customer segment it is hugely impressive. All kinds of customers who had 3-5M down and <1M up, now have 75-100M down and 15-20M up. It is a complete game changer for customers like this. I am one of them.
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Post by duckpins on Feb 4, 2021 11:39:39 GMT -8
" I hope that Apple tests the software in their future car better than they have tested their adult content filters. I still remember what happened in the movie “2001 Space Odyssey” when computer code went bad. “Dave, don’t do that Dave”. " Why is there a way to make siri sound like HAL? Would be very entertaining and easy voice to hear.
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Post by Dave on Feb 4, 2021 12:03:07 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Feb 4, 2021 13:42:02 GMT -8
A lot of these features are currently, and have been for a while, available elsewhere. Lane detection/collision/blind spot detection are pretty standard and fairly well integrated, though the UI could be tweaked a little on the Lane Detection to fit more with how people are used to driving. A year and a half ago our econo-car rental for the day had it, and it annoyed my wife because it got mad at here any time she would do a lane change without a signal. User Error, but she turned it off. This stretch from the coast back to the capital was just 2 lanes on our side, and they actually followed the practice of moving back to the slow lane as soon as you passed someone, no matter how fast you were going or if there was someone behind you. So she got to test this feature out quite a bit, getting a little "rumble pack" type feedback if you didn't use your signal. OTOH, bringing it back around to minivans, every Sienna model this year has all of those things. And the adaptive cruise control is sometimes talked up quite a bit, but the fancier Siennas have had that since 2005 or 2006, so 15 years. Maybe Apple will come up with some whole new thing. Maybe they will take some existing features, and make them better. Or make them more widespread. Maybe there will be some huge integration that makes it oh so much better. Or maybe it will be just a styling thing. There's lots of options, and if it's still 3 years out there are lots of new things that will come into the market. There is some innovation out there. OTOH, a year ago Chevy was pushing how innovative they were, because they put a hot spot in a car. This article was one of 3 things I wrote down from just reading Flash Boys. Reading through it, especially the first 10 or so, fit right with many different types of complex systems. While the book referenced it for HFT, it fits transportation, Operating Systems, medical devices, and more. how.complexsystems.fail
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Post by 4aapl on Feb 4, 2021 13:49:02 GMT -8
Short seller on GameStop and the markets in general finance.yahoo.com/news/short-seller-carson-block-on-broken-markets-and-gamestop-142549102.htmlThe workaround is to just not worry about trading, or to limit it greatly. But, this is showing where the market is in the cycle, basically looking at other reasons for why it is ok to be at high valuations and why to invest beyond the fundamentals. This time is different. It always is. But at some point this party will end. One month to five years? One year to three years? It all depends. It doesn't seem overly frothy yet for the whole market, but this isn't low tide either.
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Post by mark on Feb 4, 2021 16:42:31 GMT -8
A lot of these features are currently, and have been for a while, available elsewhere. Lane detection/collision/blind spot detection are pretty standard and fairly well integrated, though the UI could be tweaked a little on the Lane Detection to fit more with how people are used to driving. A year and a half ago our econo-car rental for the day had it, and it annoyed my wife because it got mad at here any time she would do a lane change without a signal. User Error, but she turned it off. This stretch from the coast back to the capital was just 2 lanes on our side, and they actually followed the practice of moving back to the slow lane as soon as you passed someone, no matter how fast you were going or if there was someone behind you. So she got to test this feature out quite a bit, getting a little "rumble pack" type feedback if you didn't use your signal. OTOH, bringing it back around to minivans, every Sienna model this year has all of those things. And the adaptive cruise control is sometimes talked up quite a bit, but the fancier Siennas have had that since 2005 or 2006, so 15 years. My 2004 Sienna Limited (top model) had laser cruise control that was adaptive. I used it 3 times in 12 years. The reports of "only autonomous" I suspect are not accurate. Because both the regulators and the roads won't be ready for full autonomy for a while yet. One thing for sure, whatever Apple comes up with will be scoffed at at the beginning ... then, later, everyone will copy what they scoffed at.
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Post by 4aapl on Feb 4, 2021 17:07:32 GMT -8
OTOH, bringing it back around to minivans, every Sienna model this year has all of those things. And the adaptive cruise control is sometimes talked up quite a bit, but the fancier Siennas have had that since 2005 or 2006, so 15 years. My 2004 Sienna Limited (top model) had laser cruise control that was adaptive. I used it 3 times in 12 years. Nice! For some reason I thought it was added 1 year in to the model. Ours is a '06 LE, so doesn't have it, but the manual talks about it. These days we only use cruise control a couple times a year at most, basically just if on I-5 with some open road. But even there there's normally enough traffic around, and people driving erratically in their hope to pass big trucks over 100's of miles of 2 lanes per direction, that it doesn't give much time. It's a little too touchy to me, when there are hills and turns, so I don't use it on most highways. But that's just me, used to having the control of a manual, so not really liking it when we hit a small hill and it decides to downshift one or even 2 gears. Nice move by AAPL today. We had a week and a half upswing before earnings, so while disappointing it's not surprising that it's taken a little bit of time post-earnings to digest and settle a bit.
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Post by chinacat on Feb 4, 2021 17:18:02 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Feb 4, 2021 19:39:45 GMT -8
Part of this is just the optics of it, and being upfront. I'm still bugged that Apple is getting lawsuits about trying to make it so an old iPhone with an old battery didn't just shut down, and instead slowed it down a little. IMO it was the right thing to do, going slower instead of dying. But I can see the varying viewpoint on it of someone thinking Apple was just trying to slow down an already old iPhone, hoping to get an upgrade. Someone should have been on top of that enough to realize, even if they were doing the better thing, they needed a message or option upfront. And maybe someone who's iPhone wasn't as bad would see this differently, whereas I had a 5S that started shutting down even when it was 50 degrees out and the battery was at 70%. On ads, I know I would rather get at least somewhat targeted ads. When watching NCIS on CBS.com, we'd get ads for little blue pills. While I occasionally take little blue pills, mine are Alieve clones, Naproxen Sodium. OTOH, even if I was a Facebook user and wanted targeted ads there, I would probably want them to keep their info in-house. Sometimes it is a little interesting where ads can follow you to. One instance is when I bought a chandelier at a garage sale, and managed to find it at Homedepot.com. Suddenly I was shown that chandelier all over the web. I think streaming online TV shows are more of an edge case, with a huge percentage of medication ads. They still seem to have as much legalese, but maybe there is something that makes it more likely on website streamed TV shows. Or maybe our zip code just skews old enough or whatever they are looking for. We'll see what happens. If Facebook gets that much more by selling targeted ads, it seems the next thing is sharing the wealth, by putting fewer ads on people's screens that accept targeted ads (thus incentivizing people to be tracked). But it also means being straightforward about what that means, and it seems like Facebook is still at the hiding and misdirecting stage.
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