Dave
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Post by Dave on Mar 29, 2021 1:32:10 GMT -8
Good morning. It’s Monday and the pre-market is red at -$0.62 at the moment. Last Friday’s close looked very encouraging, let’s see how today’s trading turns out. What to Expect in the Markets This Week
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Post by chinacat on Mar 29, 2021 5:12:45 GMT -8
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Mar 29, 2021 6:48:55 GMT -8
If AAPL can stay green today, it will be the first time AAPL has had 3 green days in a row since Jan earnings.
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JDSoCal
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Post by JDSoCal on Mar 29, 2021 8:06:46 GMT -8
Tim Cook or Jeff Bezos - who do you want running your company? Neither?
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Post by chinacat on Mar 29, 2021 9:02:05 GMT -8
Tim Cook or Jeff Bezos - who do you want running your company? Neither? So you’re selling your AAPL to make your point, right? You’re always good for a laugh, JD.
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Post by JDSoCal on Mar 29, 2021 9:12:45 GMT -8
So you’re selling your AAPL to make your point, right? You’re always good for laugh, JD. No, I have too much tax liability to sell my stock to make points on message boards. But I am no longer recommending to my friends and hundreds of students each year that AAPL is a top buy. My only alternative is to wait out Cook's retirement. By then, of course, Apple's Board will probably hire a black transgender female with a masters in social work to run the company.
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Post by macprof on Mar 29, 2021 11:22:25 GMT -8
You forgot Chinese. Wouldn't that be your worst nightmare.
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Post by duckpins on Mar 29, 2021 11:47:07 GMT -8
China stocks are still going down. But with today's news about some hedge funds using a derivative that few no about to leverage their bets and betting wrong...maybe the public announcement that the China tech market has been selling off will act as a contrarian force to end the sell off in Apple and related stocks as well as China. Some of the stock charts are just crazy like the one for CBS. OLED sold off big today as well after 2 great earnings reports this stock has been very volatile. It would be interesting if one could know who was actually selling and buying.
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Post by crispin on Mar 29, 2021 11:53:02 GMT -8
So you’re selling your AAPL to make your point, right? You’re always good for laugh, JD. Impotent whining seems to be quite in vogue with the dead-enders these days. Fortunately I doubt Tim has any plans to move on. And even if he did, the corporate culture that he’s helped to foster runs deep.
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Post by Luckychoices on Mar 29, 2021 12:48:43 GMT -8
So you’re selling your AAPL to make your point, right? You’re always good for laugh, JD. Impotent whining seems to be quite in vogue with the dead-enders these days. Fortunately I doubt Tim has any plans to move on. And even if he did, the corporate culture that he’s helped to foster runs deep.I couldn't agree more, crispin! Tim Cook has proven himself to be worthy of Steve picking him to be Apple's CEO back in 2011.
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Post by aaplsauce on Mar 29, 2021 13:01:10 GMT -8
JD snivels:
“…I have too much tax liability to sell my stock to make points on message boards. “…I am no longer recommending to my friends and hundreds of students each year that AAPL is a top buy.” “My only alternative is to wait out Cook's retirement.”
and concludes with some racist crap I won’t repeat.
Attention stock investors, friends, students…do not take advice from:
Racists, bigots, or blowhards, Those that boast that they own over 12 million in a stock, then whine about paying their share of taxes. Pay up, and take your 6 million plus somewhere else.
“teachers” or anyone else posting racist comments on public message boards. It indicates very poor judgement. Imagine what would happen if their employer was made aware of such posts.
Anyone that proclaims “My only alternative is…”
Anyone holding on to a large position in a stock, yet constantly disparages the CEO.
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chinacat
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Post by chinacat on Mar 29, 2021 13:38:29 GMT -8
So you’re selling your AAPL to make your point, right? You’re always good for laugh, JD. No, I have too much tax liability to sell my stock to make points on message boards. But I am no longer recommending to my friends and hundreds of students each year that AAPL is a top buy. My only alternative is to wait out Cook's retirement. By then, of course, Apple's Board will probably hire a black transgender female with a masters in social work to run the company. Thanks for reinforcing my point. Classy, as always.
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Post by JDSoCal on Mar 29, 2021 18:49:48 GMT -8
Oh look, a liberal called someone "racist." It must be a day ending in "-day." The word has lost all meaning. I laugh at your meaningless word. The worst thing you can call someone in today's society is used by lefties as a cudgel instead of a scalpel. Laughing at liberals' ridiculous diversity obsession is not racist, you dumb bunnies.
If everything is racist, nothing is racist.
Meanwhile, on day 4 of activation lock on my 80-year-old dad's iPhone. Arrogant Apple will get back to us when they get back to us. What total shit customer service. Makes me want to get him an Android phone.
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Post by mark on Mar 30, 2021 7:09:53 GMT -8
Meanwhile, on day 4 of activation lock on my 80-year-old dad's iPhone. Arrogant Apple will get back to us when they get back to us. What total shit customer service. Makes me want to get him an Android phone. I've had really good luck chatting with Apple service. All you have to do is to provide clear evidence that the phone is locked to an account owned by him and they will help you. The reason they do that is to reduce the value of a stolen iPhone and thereby reduce theft of iPhones.
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Post by hledgard on Mar 30, 2021 8:08:48 GMT -8
JD's original content was not racist. Just that institutions with no bias still have to go through all this extra "training" so as not to be "biased".
I was on many search committees at my university. The special training was a sham, silly overhead. We would have been delighted to have someone from any minority group. We would have been biased FOR them. They just never came.
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Post by audiosculpture12 on Mar 30, 2021 10:49:53 GMT -8
It was racist and phobic , and if you need it explaining then yes, the training was a sham.
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Post by hledgard on Mar 30, 2021 12:22:09 GMT -8
I am all for helping poor neighborhoods do better, have better schools, train the police to mix with the community, have good local healthcare, etc.
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Mar 30, 2021 13:16:38 GMT -8
I am all for helping poor neighborhoods do better, have better schools, train the police to mix with the community, have good local healthcare, etc. Hledgard, you don’t have to explain yourself the these people. Just ignore them if you can.
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Post by chinacat on Mar 30, 2021 13:30:51 GMT -8
What do you mean by “these people”? We’re all equal here, and everyone is free and in fact encouraged for members to express their personal knowledge, views and opinions.
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Post by Dave on Mar 30, 2021 13:38:55 GMT -8
What do you mean by “these people”? We’re all equal here, and everyone is free and in fact encouraged for members to express their personal knowledge, views and opinions. Okay Chinacat, you tell me who You think “these people” means. Careful, you may be part of that group. Think, Troll.
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Post by chinacat on Mar 30, 2021 14:01:52 GMT -8
What do you mean by “these people”? We’re all equal here, and everyone is free and in fact encouraged for members to express their personal knowledge, views and opinions. Okay Chinacat, you tell me who You think “these people” means. Careful, you may be part of that group. Think, Troll. Troll? I’d advise you to clean up your act or you may find yourself on the outside looking in.
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Post by 4aapl on Mar 30, 2021 14:10:04 GMT -8
Settle down everyone.
I agree with the premise, even if not the exact way it was said. If the next CEO was hired not for their CEO related qualifications, but for other reasons, I would sell at least a portion. And that's no matter the tax consequences.
We had my wife's whole family visiting this week, for something like 22, though they are slowly dissipating. There are times to get into the fight on every little thing. But there are times to sit back and nod even if you don't smile, and keep your eye on the overall goal.
Good luck out there, no matter the challenge.
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Post by aaplsauce on Mar 30, 2021 14:48:04 GMT -8
JD grouses “By then, of course, Apple's Board will probably hire a black transgender female with a masters in social work to run the company.”
hledgard asserts “JD's original content was not racist.”
Dave “likes” this crap.
4aapl :"I agree with the premise, even if not the exact way it was said."
Attention: hledgard, Dave, 4aapl, and all the other readers on this board that fail to comprehend the racism & misogyny in JD’s offensive post(s).
What’s wrong with you?
Educate yourselves. You are examples of why this behavior continues in society. Perhaps you should consider therapy to understand where this hate comes from. You are making fools of yourselves on a public forum. These posts are forever, and may negatively harm you in the future.
Education, understanding, and learning critical thinking skills will help you be a better person AND a better investor.
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Mar 30, 2021 14:48:21 GMT -8
Okay Chinacat, you tell me who You think “these people” means. Careful, you may be part of that group. Think, Troll. Troll? I’d advise you to clean up your act or you may find yourself on the outside looking in. Please, throw me in that briar patch.
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Post by Dave on Mar 30, 2021 14:53:00 GMT -8
JD grouses “By then, of course, Apple's Board will probably hire a black transgender female with a masters in social work to run the company.” hledgard asserts “JD's original content was not racist.” Dave “likes” this crap. 4aapl :"I agree with the premise, even if not the exact way it was said." Attention: hledgard, Dave, 4aapl, and all the other readers on this board that fail to comprehend the racism & misogyny in JD’s offensive post(s). What’s wrong with you? Educate yourselves. You are examples of why this behavior continues in society. Perhaps you should consider therapy to understand where this hate comes from. You are making fools of yourselves on a public forum. These posts are forever, and may negatively harm you in the future. Education, understanding, and learning critical thinking skills will help you be a better person AND a better investor. A re-education center, how “CCP” of you.
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Post by Luckychoices on Mar 30, 2021 14:58:39 GMT -8
Settle down everyone. I agree with the premise, even if not the exact way it was said. If the next CEO was hired not for their CEO related qualifications, but for other reasons, I would sell at least a portion. And that's no matter the tax consequences. We had my wife's whole family visiting this week, for something like 22, though they are slowly dissipating. There are times to get into the fight on every little thing. But there are times to sit back and nod even if you don't smile, and keep your eye on the overall goal. Good luck out there, no matter the challenge. It's appropriate for a moderator, or any member, to ask people to "settle down" when things get heated...and it's fine for you to agree with the *premise* of the post that provoked the follow-on comments. But your statement, " If the next CEO was hired not for their CEO related qualifications, but for other reasons" is a long, long way from, " Apple's Board will probably hire a black transgender female with a masters in social work to run the company". I thought there was general agreement, months ago, that we'd keep that type of disparaging remark out of the general threads, and unless I misunderstood the agreement, there should be no exception granted for remarks dropped just to "own the libs". The comment about "black transgender female" doesn't even belong in the Dungeon, IMO, but *at least* the member should realize it doesn't belong in the daily or W/E threads.
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Post by Lstream on Mar 30, 2021 15:19:53 GMT -8
Well then. Aren’t we just descending into the depths of total irrelevance and uselessness here. SMH at what is allowed to stand here when it was obvious what the initial provocation would lead to. DIVISION. A popular thing to encourage these days.
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Post by Ted on Mar 30, 2021 17:46:59 GMT -8
It's too bad JD can't learn to control himself instead of complaining about the CEO every week and making inflammatory & offensive trolling comments. Post like an adult or GTFO. This is getting old.
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Post by chinacat on Mar 30, 2021 19:28:27 GMT -8
It's too bad JD can't learn to control himself instead of complaining about the CEO every week and making inflammatory & offensive trolling comments. Post like an adult or GTFO. This is getting old. If the complaints had anything to do with how he has run the company (hard to do given the extraordinary results the past couple of years), that would be one thing. But the hateful complaints always have something to do with Tim’s personal beliefs and mores.
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Post by 4aapl on Mar 30, 2021 19:41:56 GMT -8
4aapl :"I agree with the premise, even if not the exact way it was said." Attention: hledgard, Dave, 4aapl, and all the other readers on this board that fail to comprehend the racism & misogyny in JD’s offensive post(s). What’s wrong with you? I'm told constantly that there is plenty wrong with me. Thanks for piling on, even if you did so by only using half of my 2 part answer. As I said the first time, JD's worry is that someone will be hired to fill a social need, rather than someone with the needed experience. And he said as much a few months back with the new board hire. I don't think Apple would do that, and I really don't know enough about the past board hire to know for sure on that front. We had people of different ethnicities and racial backgrounds on our group at Apple, just as we had people with different sexual preferences, and there was a cross dresser on campus. It just wasn't an issue, even if there were mumblings about "that guy". It was different. He, bearded and wearing a dress, was sitting there eating dinner with his wife and kid. In a situation where this is unique, it's hard to not mention it. (EDIT: what I meant was that it was hard not to talk about him, just like the new kid in class. It wasn't malicious, more just about seeing him, and then moving on. My feeling about Apple the company, and it's employees, was that it was very accepting, though part is based on where it is located. One of my coworkers who was a friend was one of the first to legally get married in CA, having planned a wedding that happened to occur days after the law changed) Bringing it back, the real question are would Apple hire someone because they fit a certain social or racial profile even if they didn't have the overall needed skills, or would they not hire someone skilled due to their social or racial profile. They seem straightforward, and they are to some extent, but there's always the things you don't think of that are synergistic or broadening. Just having a different point of view and a different background can help. Think of the car companies that name something, and then find it has negative connotations in one of their foreign markets. Having a diverse group helps with that, but how do you put a figure or job requirement on that? At the same time, life is life. When I was hired on, I was one of 6-10 contractors in the group. A few fell off for various negative reasons that I won't get into. A Russian guy was let go when they needed to whittle us down more. We had a Russian woman on our group who was hired on claiming to know databases, but she just didn't, though we didn't know better at first since we didn't know them either, hence the hire. We felt it was taking more effort to help her than she was providing, but we were eventually told that they couldn't let her go due to a lawsuit by the Russian guy. Bad optics. Such is life. She eventually did better and probably even did well, and was still there years later. What does this all matter? Well, for one it is life, and it's not always going to be simple and easy. Optics do get in there. But so do things that are hard to quantify, like having a diverse group of employees. Back to the premise, I don't think Apple would hire someone for the CEO position that doesn't have the experience to be there.
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