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Post by Dave on Oct 19, 2021 2:46:27 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Oct 19, 2021 2:58:38 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Oct 19, 2021 6:03:55 GMT -8
The air vs 13" pro MacBooks have been in a strange pricing category the last year or two, with actual overlap without much obvious differences to the casual shopper. I'm talking browsing at the Costco counter, where a "13" pro" was sometimes less than an Air. Though I like the huge screen of the 27" iMac, the small laptops are very popular, and maybe Apple is making room and differentiation for a triple product line again, with the Air, the Pro, and a standard MacBook? That would be lightest (with few ports), high end (workhorse!) and standard (a little more weight and size, possibly to give a little more battery life and ports). Looks like the 13" "Pro" might stay around as that choice, and though I might think the "Pro" part of the name should be dropped to bring back just a "MacBook", what's in a name, especially if going for the slight up-sale? We'll see. Apple has a handle on this, though with their current user base size I think they often still skew to too few products, while remembering the time of the Performa/Centris/Quadra days of too many overlapping products. OTOH, the colors on some lines bring up the varied inventory and consumer decision gridlock, though it's interesting to have many choices on the iPhones, Watches and iMacs (and soon HomePods), some choices on certain laptops, Pros and iPads, but no choices on AirPods (matching or individuality?).
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Post by chinacat on Oct 19, 2021 6:34:53 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Oct 19, 2021 7:17:28 GMT -8
WOW !
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Post by dc930 on Oct 19, 2021 7:37:27 GMT -8
I added about 5% to my position pre-event yesterday using some funds I had sitting on the sidelines. Good to see that sometimes the blind squirrel can still find a nut from time to time.
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Post by bud777 on Oct 19, 2021 8:44:18 GMT -8
I may have seen this movie before. It's like deja vu all over again. We crawl back up to 150-155, then have blowout earnings and the "tough compare in 2022" knocks us back down to 140-145. Be careful out there. Somehow, somewhere, someone is talking about cars
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Post by 4aapl on Oct 19, 2021 8:55:57 GMT -8
Had it for years, at some locations. I think like Costco it's more a dictation of a small Apple area, some banners, and salespeople that have a little training. I stopped by the Reno target on Friday for a pickup. Granted it's under a little construction, mainly just the customer service area, but they still had an iPhone 12 banner up. On the plus side, Target often has their electronics section right near the front door, or at least in the front half of the store. Like putting Apple stores in busy malls so the stores didn't have to be destinations but could instead lure people in that were already there (good in most times, not the best in a pandemic, and not what Apple has always stuck with though they have stuck with high traffic locations even when gobbling up historic stand-alone locations), Target already has a good flow of customers, and it's no the same makeup as those visiting higher end malls or shopping meccas.
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Post by Lstream on Oct 19, 2021 8:59:52 GMT -8
I may have seen this movie before. It's like deja vu all over again. We crawl back up to 150-155, then have blowout earnings and the "tough compare in 2022" knocks us back down to 140-145. Be careful out there. Somehow, somewhere, someone is talking about cars Same behavior was experienced around $120. We were stuck there for the longest time. Then at some point a new level is found like the $150 we are stuck at now. I am expecting $150 to be eventually conquered. Just don’t know when.
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Post by 4aapl on Oct 19, 2021 9:12:15 GMT -8
I may have seen this movie before. It's like deja vu all over again. We crawl back up to 150-155, then have blowout earnings and the "tough compare in 2022" knocks us back down to 140-145. Be careful out there. Somehow, somewhere, someone is talking about cars I like to optimistically think that the just visited dip is it this time around, with maybe just a slight lull post-earnings while the big boys posture while grabbing up shares on weakness as investors and analysts digest overall positive earning news. There's normally just enough cautious words or areas that didn't knock the socks off of everyone that some can inflate to a wall of worry item, but someone will be buying while others are selling, and if Apple manages to show that the silver lining is pretty viable, things could go well. It seems this xmas season will be all about supply. Consumers are buying, and even panic buying as they are being told to buy early because of an iffy supply chain. The stock app said 200,000 containers are waiting to be unloaded in LA, and another said companies are starting to push small squish able toys for the season, so they can meet the demand for gifts with something. Maybe it's time for the pet rock to make a comeback! Better yet, consumables. A pet cupcake and a caterpillar roll both have a finite shelf life, and thus don't add to our long term storage or landfill problems. Shop local Except for Apple products. Buy them as a rewarding gift that you will use long term, instead of just placing them in a drawer or on a shelf. Like an Elf.
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Post by chinacat on Oct 19, 2021 9:14:06 GMT -8
Had it for years, at some locations. I think like Costco it's more a dictation of a small Apple area, some banners, and salespeople that have a little training. I stopped by the Reno target on Friday for a pickup. Granted it's under a little construction, mainly just the customer service area, but they still had an iPhone 12 banner up. On the plus side, Target often has their electronics section right near the front door, or at least in the front half of the store. Like putting Apple stores in busy malls so the stores didn't have to be destinations but could instead lure people in that were already there (good in most times, not the best in a pandemic, and not what Apple has always stuck with though they have stuck with high traffic locations even when gobbling up historic stand-alone locations), Target already has a good flow of customers, and it's no the same makeup as those visiting higher end malls or shopping meccas. Exactly. At the risk of sounding like an insufferable snob (I'm an egalitarian blue collar Democrat family kid, who just happened to get lucky), this does not feel like fertile ground for Apple 13 ProMax buyers. However, as always "In Tim I trust."
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Post by 4aapl on Oct 19, 2021 10:25:38 GMT -8
Had it for years, at some locations. I think like Costco it's more a dictation of a small Apple area, some banners, and salespeople that have a little training. I stopped by the Reno target on Friday for a pickup. Granted it's under a little construction, mainly just the customer service area, but they still had an iPhone 12 banner up. On the plus side, Target often has their electronics section right near the front door, or at least in the front half of the store. Like putting Apple stores in busy malls so the stores didn't have to be destinations but could instead lure people in that were already there (good in most times, not the best in a pandemic, and not what Apple has always stuck with though they have stuck with high traffic locations even when gobbling up historic stand-alone locations), Target already has a good flow of customers, and it's no the same makeup as those visiting higher end malls or shopping meccas. Exactly. At the risk of sounding like an insufferable snob (I'm an egalitarian blue collar Democrat family kid, who just happened to get lucky), this does not feel like fertile ground for Apple 13 ProMax buyers. However, as always "In Tim I trust." I think it all depends. We've seen enough locally to know that it doesn't always land where you think it would. Different people value things differently. For some it's a status symbol. But for others, it's buying when you have an influx, similar to stories from Africa in "The boy who harnessed the wind", where when money did come, it would go right into the house, say patching a roof, or adding a second small room. Some people have the feeling of spending it when they get it, and possibly a mistrust of banks, or at least that's my theory on certain groups of people getting big screen tvs, AirPods, and new cars while we continued to save. We have a friend that works for not much more than minimum wage at the local grocery store. I thought her iPhone 8+ was a little surprising at first, but she is still using it years later, and she doesn't own a computer. It really is her supercomputer, in her pocket. That's a nice savings with the iPhone, both in longevity, but also in not purchasing a computer. Likewise, a shinny escalade might surprise me, but years later I hear that they run 3 different businesses, hustling all the time. It's different than I would choose to spend it, but really that's just me. OTOH, the billionaire next door drives a Ridgeline (not-so-coincidentally while owning a company called Ridgeline), and at least occasionally does his own shopping at the grocery store. I imagine Apple has done it's homework. It's store-within-a-store idea has been something they have pushed for ages now, at a variety of shops. May it continue to be fruitful!
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