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Post by Dave on Aug 15, 2022 1:44:38 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Aug 15, 2022 1:50:05 GMT -8
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Post by CdnPhoto on Aug 15, 2022 4:06:33 GMT -8
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Post by benoir on Aug 15, 2022 4:36:57 GMT -8
How many Bondi Blue iMacs would you need to match a current iMac in processing power? (it’s mainly rhetorical…but still curious)
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Post by CdnPhoto on Aug 15, 2022 5:08:05 GMT -8
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Post by benoir on Aug 15, 2022 5:39:45 GMT -8
So in terms of power consumption 89 original iMac G3 233’s would chew through ~20kW of power? (Can’t find anything on the original iMac power consumption. Have assumed~200w) this compares to the M1 iMac maxing out at 80w.
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Post by chinacat on Aug 15, 2022 6:24:08 GMT -8
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Post by macster on Aug 15, 2022 8:15:55 GMT -8
And there it sits. I’ll keep it forever. A 99 Bondi Blue
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Post by Dave on Aug 15, 2022 9:09:20 GMT -8
In reference to 9to5Mac story, Tim Cook may not realize the he may be Opening a Can of Worms that maybe is best left alone. Has anyone considered that simple hiring the most qualified applicants is the best route. And the one not offered the position is very likely going to complain. As the story says, this has been a part of India for a very long time and the nation, the hopefully potential future customers of that nation may not care for his medaling with their established customs. Just sayin’.
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Post by duckpins on Aug 15, 2022 10:52:08 GMT -8
Amazing. What was the first non cathode ray iMac?
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Post by JDSoCal on Aug 15, 2022 10:52:52 GMT -8
In reference to 9to5Mac story, Tim Cook may not realize the he may be Opening a Can of Worms that maybe is best left alone. Has anyone considered that simple hiring the most qualified applicants is the best route. And the one not offered the position is very likely going to complain. As the story says, this has been a part of India for a very long time and the nation, the hopefully potential future customers of that nation may not care for his medaling with their established customs. Just sayin’. I'd like to see Apple more concerned about hiring US STEM workers, instead of importing indentured H1B's.
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Post by firestorm on Aug 15, 2022 11:20:16 GMT -8
Amazing. What was the first non cathode ray iMac? It was the lampie with a domed base (containing the computer) and an infinitely adjustable arm to control angle and height. I bought one early in its cycle and used it for years; I liked the form factor really well, but the early flat screen was small. I wish they had pursued this type of form factor with newer iMacs. Besides, the commercial for it was funny as well, with a guy looking in a store window and the computer adjusting its position mimicking him.
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Post by firestorm on Aug 15, 2022 11:23:07 GMT -8
In reference to 9to5Mac story, Tim Cook may not realize the he may be Opening a Can of Worms that maybe is best left alone. Has anyone considered that simple hiring the most qualified applicants is the best route. And the one not offered the position is very likely going to complain. As the story says, this has been a part of India for a very long time and the nation, the hopefully potential future customers of that nation may not care for his medaling with their established customs. Just sayin’. I'd like to see Apple more concerned about hiring US STEM workers, instead of importing indentured H1B's. The importation of these highly skilled workers has helped Apple and AAPL immensely. I think it is good to get the best of the best from around the world, rather than leaving them in their original countries where they could develop strong competitors to American industry.
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Post by 4aapl on Aug 15, 2022 12:06:00 GMT -8
Decided to buy back the Sept '22 250's I wrote for a bit over $10/share nearly 2 years ago. The math showed I would pay more in margin interest over this coming month, than buying them back for a penny each.
They don't allow options at fractions of a penny, so my first attempt to buy them back for half a penny each failed.
If all trades were this simple, everyone would be doing it. At the time things were hyped up, hitting ATHs of ~125. But this helps balance with the Jan '22 135's I had also wrote that ended up well in the money.
Nice to see a little green today, instead of the little red we were seeing first thing this morning.
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Post by CdnPhoto on Aug 15, 2022 12:07:17 GMT -8
Amazing. What was the first non cathode ray iMac? It was the lampie with a domed base (containing the computer) and an infinitely adjustable arm to control angle and height. I bought one early in its cycle and used it for years; I liked the form factor really well, but the early flat screen was small. I wish they had pursued this type of form factor with newer iMacs. Besides, the commercial for it was funny as well, with a guy looking in a store window and the computer adjusting its position mimicking him. Are you referring to the 20th Anniversary Mac? Many years ago, just before that Mac was released, I had the opportunity to go to Apple. We were given a tour of the design lab at the time too. I saw the (there was only one at the time) 20th Anniversary Mac. It had just come back from the movie Sabrina with Harrison Ford. Look carefully, you'll see it on his desk. It was a thing of beauty, but WAY over priced. It came with a B&O sound system, sliding doors for a vertically mounted CD player and a small LCD. I also saw the Pippin during that visit.
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Post by Dave on Aug 15, 2022 12:11:02 GMT -8
I'd like to see Apple more concerned about hiring US STEM workers, instead of importing indentured H1B's. The importation of these highly skilled workers has helped Apple and AAPL immensely. I think it is good to get the best of the best from around the world, rather than leaving them in their original countries where they could develop strong competitors to American industry. I agree. Chose based on the applications ability to preform, not the category that they may fall into. It’s called competition.
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Post by Dave on Aug 15, 2022 12:22:42 GMT -8
Amazing. What was the first non cathode ray iMac? It was the lampie with a domed base (containing the computer) and an infinitely adjustable arm to control angle and height. I bought one early in its cycle and used it for years; I liked the form factor really well, but the early flat screen was small. I wish they had pursued this type of form factor with newer iMacs. Besides, the commercial for it was funny as well, with a guy looking in a store window and the computer adjusting its position mimicking him. Yes, that was a great design with so much potential. I used to buy used ones on EBay, repair or upgrade (solid state drives, SuperDrives) and give them as gifts to introduce someone to the Mac computer. Or in the case of my mother it was her first computer. Fond memories.
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Post by ono on Aug 15, 2022 16:45:32 GMT -8
Yes. But we need more US STEM grads. And when I say US grads, I mean even the international students graduating from US universities. It should be easier for them to get their green car and apply for employment in the US. (Insert Job's quotation here if I find it easily enough.) It is not.
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Post by JDSoCal on Aug 15, 2022 16:48:01 GMT -8
I'd like to see Apple more concerned about hiring US STEM workers, instead of importing indentured H1B's. The importation of these highly skilled workers has helped Apple and AAPL immensely. I think it is good to get the best of the best from around the world, rather than leaving them in their original countries where they could develop strong competitors to American industry. So f--- the US STEM workers then? It's funny that the group that yelled loudest about outsourcing apparently has no problem with insourcing. So what are all these American college grads supposed to do, now that "learn to code" has been replaced by "No thanks, we filled your slot with an H1B"? Because Americans don't hate Big Tech enough already...
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Post by ono on Aug 15, 2022 17:10:34 GMT -8
In searching for the quote, I saw this: Allows dual intent for STEM doctoral students, allowing them to transition to a green card as provided under this bill without first needing to leave the country and start the visa process over.I can't tell whether it, bill 4521, has been enacted. www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4521/actions?r=1&s=1It passed the house in Feb, and the senate 68-28 in March. I'll look, later, to see if the provision stood.
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Post by ono on Aug 15, 2022 17:14:13 GMT -8
"So what are all these American college grads supposed to do, now that "learn to code" has been replaced by "No thanks, we filled your slot with an H1B"?"
JD: No.
I don't think quality "US [American citizen]" STEM grads have any problem getting a well paying job. I'm ready to be corrected, better informed.
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Post by ono on Aug 15, 2022 17:23:57 GMT -8
“We should not be educating these young people then requiring them to return home. We should be stapling a green card to their diploma when they graduate.”
“Advancing immigration reform is not just a moral obligation, it is a matter of economic necessity,” she says. “We should not be educating these young people then requiring them to return home. We should be stapling a green card to their diploma when they graduate.”
US Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker She was confirmed by a Senate vote of 97–1
She is the founder of PSP Partners, PSP Capital Partners, and Pritzker Realty Group, and co-founder of Artemis Real Estate Partners and Inspired Capital. She is on the board of Microsoft, and chair of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. As of October 2021, Forbes estimated her net worth at US$3.2 billion.[2] In 2009, Forbes named Pritzker one of the 100 most powerful women in the world.
So, I was wrong that it was an SK quote.
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Post by mark on Aug 15, 2022 17:33:43 GMT -8
Decided to buy back the Sept '22 250's I wrote for a bit over $10/share nearly 2 years ago. The math showed I would pay more in margin interest over this coming month, than buying them back for a penny each. I don't understand this statement. You sold a security for $10 to someone, and now it is worth $0.01 ... what exactly are you paying "margin interest" on? What balance does your broker use to calculate margin interest for that trade??? I write and sell puts regularly, and have never paid margin interest on them. In fact, it is just the opposite, I collect interest on the premium I collected while it remains in my account (obviously if I use it to buy shares/options, I don't collect interest on it anymore). Most of the time, those puts expire worthless.Sometimes I buy them back early (and once I mistakenly bought them back at a penny). But I've never paid margin interest on them. I also write calls regularly, usually as the top leg of a spread. And, still, I've never paid margin interest on any of them. I just don't see where margin comes into play here. Sometimes they don't even allow a penny, they go in increments of a nickel! (I hate that)
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Post by ono on Aug 15, 2022 17:36:16 GMT -8
I went down the rabbit hole:
"Staple a green card to their diploma - welcome to the United States of America! We want those people in our country." Mitt Romney
Clinton's "staple" idea isn't new. It's what Mitt Romney, the 2012 GOP presidential nominee, supported. It has had bipartisan support in Congress.
U.S. Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Arizona, has re-introducedlegislation that would offer permanent residency to any U.S. university student who graduates with a Ph.D. in science, technology, engineering or mathematics.
Flake introduced his bill the same week that President Barack Obama said, in his State of the Union speech, that the U.S. should make it easier for top foreign university graduates to remain here. Too often, Obama said, "we send them back to [to other countries] to compete against us. It makes no sense," Obama said.
"Unless we want to see the next Google or Intel created overseas, we've got to enact legal immigration reforms that allow foreign-born, U.S.-educated students who have earned advanced degrees to remain and work in the country after they've graduated," Flake said in a statement.
Possible unintended consequence: “Universities will essentially be able to sell green cards to foreign students. Given that Master’s degrees are short in duration, and have little oversight from outside bodies, this provision will make it inexpensive for foreigners to purchase green cards,” Hira said in his statement. “We will see a flood of foreign student applications, which will crowd out American students from the STEM fields. Those foreign students will in turn flood the labor market in the STEM fields, depressing wages, and further steering American students from studying these fields.”
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Post by firestorm on Aug 15, 2022 17:53:54 GMT -8
The importation of these highly skilled workers has helped Apple and AAPL immensely. I think it is good to get the best of the best from around the world, rather than leaving them in their original countries where they could develop strong competitors to American industry. So f--- the US STEM workers then? It's funny that the group that yelled loudest about outsourcing apparently has no problem with insourcing. So what are all these American college grads supposed to do, now that "learn to code" has been replaced by "No thanks, we filled your slot with an H1B"? Because Americans don't hate Big Tech enough already... You're probably right, community college grads who have learned coding can do just as well as the best from India. After all, American exceptionalism means we're always the best. '
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Post by hledgard on Aug 15, 2022 18:58:13 GMT -8
I taught Computer Science at University of Toledo for almost 30 years. Lots of Indian and Pakistani graduate students, not so many, but some, American students.
Not one ever had a problem getting a job here. Almost every Indian or Pakistani student got the green card and stayed.
PS. It was almost impossible to see an application from a woman or black person. All the so-called training to be unbiased was a joke. The women and black persons never showed up. If they did, they would likely have been given a free education on the spot.
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Post by 4aapl on Aug 15, 2022 21:01:09 GMT -8
I don't think quality "US [American citizen]" STEM grads have any problem getting a well paying job. I'm ready to be corrected, better informed. We know a son of some friends who graduated last year in computer science. He seems like a bright kid, and has intern experience. For whatever reason, he is having trouble finding a job. I don't know if he isn't looking hard enough, not looking far enough afield, or has some flaw he flaunts in interviews. But he's still searching. Maybe he is a unicorn. It sure seems like it. With an engineering degree and experience, even with the ups and downs in the market over the past 15 years I have never worried about not being able to find something, if willing to move a couple hundred miles if need be. It never ended up coming to that, though pay can vary greatly by company and location. And it did.
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Post by 4aapl on Aug 15, 2022 21:03:54 GMT -8
Decided to buy back the Sept '22 250's I wrote for a bit over $10/share nearly 2 years ago. The math showed I would pay more in margin interest over this coming month, than buying them back for a penny each. I don't understand this statement. You sold a security for $10 to someone, and now it is worth $0.01 ... what exactly are you paying "margin interest" on? What balance does your broker use to calculate margin interest for that trade??? I write and sell puts regularly, and have never paid margin interest on them. In fact, it is just the opposite, I collect interest on the premium I collected while it remains in my account (obviously if I use it to buy shares/options, I don't collect interest on it anymore). Most of the time, those puts expire worthless.Sometimes I buy them back early (and once I mistakenly bought them back at a penny). But I've never paid margin interest on them. I also write calls regularly, usually as the top leg of a spread. And, still, I've never paid margin interest on any of them. I just don't see where margin comes into play here. Sometimes they don't even allow a penny, they go in increments of a nickel! (I hate that) I probably messed up, thinking that open positions were counting towards the total. Even so, at a penny a share it was a small amount. But yea, if it wasn't actually counting against me I wouldn't have minded getting a bit more. Thanks for the reminder that it probably didn't help, even if it wasn't a big change.
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Post by JDSoCal on Aug 16, 2022 6:40:06 GMT -8
"So what are all these American college grads supposed to do, now that "learn to code" has been replaced by "No thanks, we filled your slot with an H1B"?" JD: No. I don't think quality "US [American citizen]" STEM grads have any problem getting a well paying job. I'm ready to be corrected, better informed. US Tech Workers on Twitter don't seem to think so. Simply put, H1B's work in the US on a non-transferable Visa. If they are fired, they must return home immediately or face a 10-year ban. And not like in Mexico where they just walk back across and Border patrol feeds and houses them and changes their kid's diapers. Hard to get here from India with a revoked visa. So H1B's are very compliant and obsequious. They don't unionize or complain or demand to work from home. Much more obedient than US citizen workers. I had a girlfriend who worked for Oracle on an H1B. I know all Big Tech's import labor tricks.
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