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Post by Mav on Mar 23, 2013 12:06:10 GMT -8
As are we all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 12:07:05 GMT -8
Anyone else having trouble loading AFB pages the last couple of days? Seems okay on my IOS devices but a problem on my Mac Book Air. yep Thought it was my Mac, but couldn't anything amiss. I think its a Proboards issue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 12:12:55 GMT -8
RE: volume... I made a chart showing declining volume "coming out of key bottoms" and "going into key tops." (Click once to zoom, and again a second time to get full size.) AAPL WEEKLY CHART: Stock direction is a function of an imbalance between buyers and sellers. More buyers stock goes up and vice versa. Lovey, your chart puts that into visual context (something I haven't been able to do). In your chart you can clearly see which party to a sale has left the arena. Putting that into current context it would appear that sellers have returned to the sidelines, putting buyers in control.
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Post by Lstream on Mar 23, 2013 12:24:32 GMT -8
Seems to be a broad Proboards thing -- I went to the support site and read that they're working on fixing "loading problems." I have it on good authority that an abnormally high number of complex charts are bogging down the entire ProBoards site. Offenders will soon be asked to tone down on all the charting. Violators will be put on probation, and required to operate on pure fundamentals until further notice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 12:26:24 GMT -8
A most interesting article. Well worth the time to read it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 12:26:55 GMT -8
Seems to be a broad Proboards thing -- I went to the support site and read that they're working on fixing "loading problems." I have it on good authority that an abnormally high number of complex charts are bogging down the entire ProBoards site. Offenders will soon be asked to tone down on all the charting. Violators will be put on probation, and required to operate on pure fundamentals until further notice. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 13:01:13 GMT -8
Thurman ( !!!) is learning TA and has put spreads. I had forgotten that post. In hindsight it was a great call. Here's what I have learned about TA so far. There are a million interpretations to what the "squiggly" lines mean. By that I mean there are so many different methods used by TA followers that I think they are burdened with information overload: how to reconcile what all those lines are indicating. I am not deprecating TA so much as I am the wiggle room of result/interpretation. This observation of mine could be the result of my own lack of knowledge. I have learned some very valuable trading strategies, such as Gap 'n Go. In 9 years of active trading gaps have always froze me in place, like a deer in the headlights. No more. Another thing I've learned from TA is that you have to put lines on trends in order to see them more clearly, just not so many as to cloud your judgement of what is going on (its a thing of micro vs macro trends I guess, and when does a micro become a macro trend). I hadn't done that on the 9 years of recorded data in my excel spreadsheets. I do now and its been helpful Giving credit where credit is due, I'm trading much more confidently, than I have in the past, with what I have learned so far. Will I become a TA advocate? Not in the sense that Lovey is, but I recognize the difference between Fundamental analysis and TA now, where I hadn't before, and how they should be used together. Fundamentals tell why a stock should perform in a given manner, while TA tells you what the market is doing (regardless of fundamentals). Beyond that I continue to abhor discussions that Apple (aka management) MUST/SHOULD/HAS TO do this or that, to fix this or that. AAPL is currently going up, and not surprisingly, it is doing so without adopting any of the idiocy of the 'this or that' crowd. Also not surprising, is that, in what appears to be good times, those discussions have all but disappeared.
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Post by qualitywte on Mar 23, 2013 19:32:21 GMT -8
With the big slide in AAPL since Sept. and all the negative (mostly FUD) reporting, I feel like expectations are that Apple is doomed and will continue to lose everything they have gained over the last few years. Could it be that just a good show of staying power along with giving more cash back to shareholders will bring the stock price back to reasonable levels? Apple is not going to lose their market share like BB did.
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Post by macziggy on Mar 23, 2013 23:30:37 GMT -8
Three week run: this reminded me that applemuncher made the correct gut call just after we had hit bottom, and just about everyone had capitulated, the night of March 4: We're up just under 10% from that close. Thanks Odd-Lot Richard. Even a blind hog can find an acorn sometimes. Happy with the stock price direction. Bravo!! Fingers crossed. Now...let us know when the top is in!! TIA!
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Post by artman1033 on Mar 24, 2013 5:53:01 GMT -8
Anyone else having trouble loading AFB pages the last couple of days? Seems okay on my IOS devices but a problem on my Mac Book Air. yep Thought it was my Mac, but couldn't anything amiss. I think its a Proboards issue. Does anyone know if Proboards is stored on DREAMHOST?
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Post by lance on Mar 24, 2013 6:03:20 GMT -8
www.businessinsider.com/iphone-6-concept-photos-2013-3#Concept iPhone 6. I think apple needs to come out with a 4inch and the 4.8"screen. Has anyone found data for apple with female versus male user base. I have a feeling apple is doing much better on the female side due to smaller screen. I know a lot of guys who like the big screen due to larger hand size. Whereas I think the iPhone has a bit of a cleaner but less sturdy look and I think some guys think the iPhone looks like a girls phone. I like the look myself but I understand why some guys have bought Samsung and blackberry. For instance I almost exclusively use my iPad mini when I am not out because I like the big screen versus using my phone screen. Sadly I don't even use a computer much at all except at work since getting the iPad Mini.
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Post by Luckychoices on Mar 24, 2013 7:25:13 GMT -8
From Apple Insider: appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/23/googles-android-powered-by-remarkable-new-flawgicEditorial: Google’s Android powered by remarkable new 'Flawgic' By Daniel Eran Dilger Google’s Android platform is powered by a novel technology that transcends conventional hardware and software. And just as Android hardware and software has looked to Apple for inspiration, this compelling new “flexibly adaptive logic” is also related to something that first originated within Apple. ...This process wasn’t entirely shameless, as Google often had to criticize its partners, most famously Samsung, for taking things too far in their exact reproductions of every Apple product, right down to the design of icons, accessories and even packaging materials. One Android tablet from Samsung was so overtly infringing of Apple’s iPad that Google actually asked Samsung to change the design slightly. Despite the well documented nature of this infringement, Flawgic kicked in and explained that what had really occured was that Apple had sued Samsung over rounded corners, because, well, Apple was an asshole. ...
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Post by lovemyipad on Mar 24, 2013 8:31:39 GMT -8
Seems to be a broad Proboards thing -- I went to the support site and read that they're working on fixing "loading problems." I have it on good authority that an abnormally high number of complex charts are bogging down the entire ProBoards site. Offenders will soon be asked to tone down on all the charting. Violators will be put on probation, and required to operate on pure fundamentals until further notice. ROFL!!!
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Post by lovemyipad on Mar 24, 2013 8:36:34 GMT -8
There are a million interpretations to what the "squiggly" lines mean. By that I mean there are so many different methods used by TA followers that I think they are burdened with information overload: how to reconcile what all those lines are indicating. I am not deprecating TA so much as I am the wiggle room of result/interpretation. This observation of mine could be the result of my own lack of knowledge. EW, yes. TA, not so much. TA = straight-forward and objective assessment of what IS happening in the moment.
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Post by sponge on Mar 24, 2013 8:59:30 GMT -8
From Apple Insider: appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/23/googles-android-powered-by-remarkable-new-flawgicEditorial: Google’s Android powered by remarkable new 'Flawgic' By Daniel Eran Dilger Google’s Android platform is powered by a novel technology that transcends conventional hardware and software. And just as Android hardware and software has looked to Apple for inspiration, this compelling new “flexibly adaptive logic” is also related to something that first originated within Apple. ...This process wasn’t entirely shameless, as Google often had to criticize its partners, most famously Samsung, for taking things too far in their exact reproductions of every Apple product, right down to the design of icons, accessories and even packaging materials. One Android tablet from Samsung was so overtly infringing of Apple’s iPad that Google actually asked Samsung to change the design slightly. Despite the well documented nature of this infringement, Flawgic kicked in and explained that what had really occured was that Apple had sued Samsung over rounded corners, because, well, Apple was an asshole. ... Excellent article. I see it working as friends claim that google is more innovative as they sit around playing with their iPhones here on my ski vacation. Only time will prove that Apple still has the MOJO and Google is a fraud. I still believe in three years the mobile world will be very different from today.
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Post by rob_london on Mar 24, 2013 9:25:15 GMT -8
One of the UK public companies in which I invest in has a chairman who writes a Buffett-like preamble to the accounts each year. Back in 2005 when the company (and share price) had a temporary downturn, he wrote:
"During the year I have been taken to task by some owners – both individual and corporate – over our (my) refusal to do ‘something’ about the share price. I believe I do ‘something’ about the share price all day every day and that ‘something’ is to run this company the best way I know how for long-term success. By long-term I mean 20 years or more. Leaving aside the dubious morality of trying to manipulate the share price on a daily basis (and my inevitable insanity) it is simply not practicable. Owners who share my view that I should focus all my energy on the long-term growth of the business will be pleased to hear that I will do nothing that is designed to engineer a short-term change in the share price. Owners who are disappointed by that news may wish to reconsider their investment positions."
Maybe TC should write a similar piece, aimed at those short term speculators in AAPL stock who have been criticising his management during the past few months.
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Post by artman1033 on Mar 24, 2013 9:29:57 GMT -8
There might be issues in Syria Monday.
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Post by Lstream on Mar 24, 2013 9:42:04 GMT -8
What about Google is a fraud, especially in their primary business of search and advertising?
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Post by sponge on Mar 24, 2013 10:44:11 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Mar 24, 2013 12:09:44 GMT -8
Hm. Well technicals are straightforward relative to EW. ;D
The good thing about technicals, the indicators are more like "plug-ins/extensions" than the "web browser" (awkward analogy but it works) and if you pick a good "starter set", you already have enough to supplement your ongoing price/volume/trend analysis. You don't need the whole universe of indicators IMHO.
After all, you need to understand the basics of the indicators for them to be of any use. It's like learning a new form of math.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Mar 24, 2013 13:17:49 GMT -8
Speaking of technicals, Henry from SI gives us the Sunday outlook... www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=28796528From the Master: AAPL…On Friday, FINALLY broke the major 6 months' downtrend…..but not without a few questions as to the validity of the breakout... The breakout did not meet the usual TA rules regarding confirmed decisive breakouts.. either in extent (the 2-3% usually expected) or in volume ( a sharp upsurge)..I estimate the extent of the breakout price move at just over 1 %, and volume for the day was up only about 2%. However….if extent and volume were deemed acceptable...last week's action can be viewed as having completed a bullish pennant measuring to about 486, which would roughly correspond to the next potential overhead chart resistance area.. Hopefully the foregoing questions will be clarified promptly next week, but as of now, my inclination is to give AAPL the benefit of any doubts and to conclude that: a valid trend reversal has been signaled, which now points to a leg up toward 485ish..
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Post by Mav on Mar 24, 2013 13:48:44 GMT -8
Not sure what he's getting at. AAPL did go up 2% Friday. 2% more than the indices? 2% over the trendline?
Also, though I like Henry, he shows how trendlines can be a bit subjective. AAPL broke out of my downtrend line 3 trading days ago.
There may be classic rules but this isn't a classic market, especially with options (particularly weeklies) influencing things. Of course I do agree with his general sense that the mini trend in AAPL is up.
Cyprus is the wild card for Monday tho IMHO.
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Post by artman1033 on Mar 24, 2013 14:31:50 GMT -8
Did SAMESONG beat APPLE to Sharp?Hon Hai, Sharp to stop partnership talks March 26: Japanese daily 2013/03/23 22:57:39 Tokyo, March 23 (CNA) Taiwan's Hon Hai Group and Japan's Sharp Corp. will cease their year-long talks on capital cooperation in the coming few days, the Japanese daily Sankei Shimbun reported Saturday. The talks will be stopped March 26 because the two parties cannot come to terms on the proposed partnership deal, the business daily said. The two sides previously set March 26 as the dateline for partnership talks, according to Sankei Shimbun. Hon Hai, the world's largest electronic manufacturing service provider, and cash-strapped Sharp tentatively reached an agreement in March 2012 for the Taiwanese firm to acquire a nearly 10 percent stake in Sharp for 550 yen per share. But, both sides have entered renegotiations on the terms since last August, including the acquisition price. This was after the Japanese firm's share prices fell sharply, amid concerns over its bottom line. Sankei Shimbun said Hon Hai had asked to co-manage Sharp's Kameyama LCD plant in the renegotiation process. Sharp, however, rejected such a request, leading to a breakdown in the year-long talks, the Japanese newspaper said. Sharp's Kameyama plant in Mie Prefecture in central Japan focuses on production of advanced small- and medium-size LCD panels. Sharp announced March 6 that it was to sell 10.4 billion Japanese yen (US$111 million)-worth of stock to a unit of Samsung at a price of 290 yen per share.
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Post by mace on Mar 24, 2013 15:18:42 GMT -8
Not sure what he's getting at. AAPL did go up 2% Friday. 2% more than the indices? 2% over the trendline? 2% above the expected breakout price. If $459 is the price, 2% i.e. above $468 to confirm breakout.
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Post by Mav on Mar 24, 2013 17:53:54 GMT -8
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Post by applemuncher on Mar 24, 2013 18:13:02 GMT -8
Beyond that I continue to abhor discussions that Apple (aka management) MUST/SHOULD/HAS TO do this or that, to fix this or that. AAPL is currently going up, and not surprisingly, it is doing so without adopting any of the idiocy of the 'this or that' crowd. Also not surprising, is that, in what appears to be good times, those discussions have all but disappeared. I like an active discussion about what Apple could be doing differently. Apple can be very arrogant. As investors we should feel free to criticize Apple’s use of cash, lack of product availability (iMac comes to mind), or current products (iPhone with a larger display). I believe that exposing problems with Apple paints a more realistic portrait of the company and highlights some of the reasons why the stock price acts the way it does. I hope people continue to post their suggestions about what Apple could be doing differently.
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Post by Mav on Mar 24, 2013 18:13:29 GMT -8
Not sure what he's getting at. AAPL did go up 2% Friday. 2% more than the indices? 2% over the trendline? 2% above the expected breakout price. If $459 is the price, 2% i.e. above $468 to confirm breakout. That's what I thought. Not seeing the necessity/practicality of a 2% breakout from 459 considering the progress AAPL made on Friday in the face of option pain. Of course, no bull wants to see AAPL up $3 or so (or lower) on a 1%+ up day for the markets tomorrow.
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Post by prazan on Mar 24, 2013 18:14:30 GMT -8
Not sure what he's getting at. AAPL did go up 2% Friday. 2% more than the indices? 2% over the trendline? 2% above the expected breakout price. If $459 is the price, 2% i.e. above $468 to confirm breakout. A breakout capped by resistance at $485, which means $19 up to confirm, for $17 upside potential beyond that. Once the breakout is confirmed, it's almost over.
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Post by Mav on Mar 24, 2013 18:15:48 GMT -8
That's one person's opinion/metric.
There are several ways to measure. MACD-h weekly crossover to positive may not need 485. Some look to SMA-100 weekly. Some to SMA-200 daily. Some to a Fib level here and there. Maybe even that macro trendline from 2009.
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Post by prazan on Mar 24, 2013 18:17:29 GMT -8
Not sure what he's getting at. AAPL did go up 2% Friday. 2% more than the indices? 2% over the trendline? Also, though I like Henry, he shows how trendlines can be a bit subjective. AAPL broke out of my downtrend line 3 trading days ago. There may be classic rules but this isn't a classic market, especially with options (particularly weeklies) influencing things. Of course I do agree with his general sense that the mini trend in AAPL is up. Cyprus is the wild card for Monday tho IMHO. Wait, you mean subjective interpretation and wiggle room do apply to TA after all?
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