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Post by archibaldtuttle on May 28, 2013 7:58:39 GMT -8
It's hard not to give up on AAPL on a day like today. At least I took off my GOOG short last week.
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Post by rickag on May 28, 2013 8:37:11 GMT -8
< Sarcasm >No wonder margins are down, Apple probably replaced at no cost and restored the data.
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Post by sponge on May 28, 2013 8:45:40 GMT -8
If we can back over 444 by end of the day, I will consider it a victory. Volume is non existent.
On the 15min Chart we are still in an uptrend.
Hope for a recovery by end of the day. Thank goodness it is still early and we are still above 440.
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Post by Mav on May 28, 2013 9:00:51 GMT -8
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Post by sponge on May 28, 2013 9:07:04 GMT -8
In other words our price target is 430 and we need to get back down with 12 months left. Their analysis makes some sense except the part about lack of future new innovation from Apple and a sub $250 Mini.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 9:17:50 GMT -8
It's not enough to establish a price target at $430. Yeung is an asshat that wants to reaffirm it.
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Post by rickag on May 28, 2013 9:24:13 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 9:31:46 GMT -8
Yes. Say goodbye to bricks and mortar. Citi deserves the first wrecking ball. He has more price targets than Sponge --ok, I exaggerate.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 9:33:51 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on May 28, 2013 9:44:05 GMT -8
Thanks Mercel. That could lift AAPL in the future.
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Post by bud777 on May 28, 2013 9:49:18 GMT -8
Things are kinda slow, so I wanted to bring up a topic that has been bothering me and I have not seen discussed. In all the talk about the growth of the tablet market and the death of laptops, I have not seen anyone discuss the fact that tablets are essentially a non windowed device. Considering the functionality of being able to have multiple windows open (remember what it was like to work on a DOS world?) I really wonder why this limitation has not received more attention.
I thought for a while that maybe a content consumption device might not really need multiple windows, but I am beginning to doubt that. I recently refereed an article for a scientific journal. By convention, the figures are at the end of the article and a statement like "Insert Figure 2" is in the text. Constant scrolling back and forth made it very difficult to read the article. I eventually has to open two windows on my PC so I could refer to the figures as I read.
I am sure there are many other instances where multiple windows are critical, yet this is never mentioned as a limitation on the penetration of tablets into the PC space. Have we had it wrong since 1995? Are multiple windows necessary? How does this affect tablet growth? Should Apple be addressing this before MS or Samesung does?
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Post by rickag on May 28, 2013 10:06:19 GMT -8
Things are kinda slow, so I wanted to bring up a topic that has been bothering me and I have not seen discussed. In all the talk about the growth of the tablet market and the death of laptops, I have not seen anyone discuss the fact that tablets are essentially a non windowed device. Considering the functionality of being able to have multiple windows open (remember what it was like to work on a DOS world?) I really wonder why this limitation has not received more attention. I thought for a while that maybe a content consumption device might not really need multiple windows, but I am beginning to doubt that. I recently refereed an article for a scientific journal. By convention, the figures are at the end of the article and a statement like "Insert Figure 2" is in the text. Constant scrolling back and forth made it very difficult to read the article. I eventually has to open two windows on my PC so I could refer to the figures as I read. I am sure there are many other instances where multiple windows are critical, yet this is never mentioned as a limitation on the penetration of tablets into the PC space. Have we had it wrong since 1995? Are multiple windows necessary? How does this affect tablet growth? Should Apple be addressing this before MS or Samesung does? Interesting thought, patent it NOW!
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Post by calvinav on May 28, 2013 10:35:43 GMT -8
Things are kinda slow, so I wanted to bring up a topic that has been bothering me and I have not seen discussed. In all the talk about the growth of the tablet market and the death of laptops, I have not seen anyone discuss the fact that tablets are essentially a non windowed device. Considering the functionality of being able to have multiple windows open (remember what it was like to work on a DOS world?) I really wonder why this limitation has not received more attention. I thought for a while that maybe a content consumption device might not really need multiple windows, but I am beginning to doubt that. I recently refereed an article for a scientific journal. By convention, the figures are at the end of the article and a statement like "Insert Figure 2" is in the text. Constant scrolling back and forth made it very difficult to read the article. I eventually has to open two windows on my PC so I could refer to the figures as I read. I am sure there are many other instances where multiple windows are critical, yet this is never mentioned as a limitation on the penetration of tablets into the PC space. Have we had it wrong since 1995? Are multiple windows necessary? How does this affect tablet growth? Should Apple be addressing this before MS or Samesung does? Something like this perhaps: www.engadget.com/2013/04/28/paranoid-android-teases-in-app-pop-up-window-multitasking-video/
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Post by Mav on May 28, 2013 10:35:54 GMT -8
NFLX follow-on trade so far: ;D TSLA: (Stupid butterfly pricing dynamics) AAPL: we'll see if Tim moves the stock after his interview this evening LNKD: may or may not trade by end of day
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Post by tuffett on May 28, 2013 10:50:50 GMT -8
In my admittedly non-legal opinion, it's not going to happen. The market for snowplows and smartphones are entirely different. As much as it shouldn't matter, maintaining competitiveness and consumer choice for such a huge market will trump what is actually right. I'd love to be wrong on this, but everything I've seen so far tells me it's very unlikely.
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Post by Mav on May 28, 2013 11:04:48 GMT -8
Technically iPhone is as capable of window switching as iPad. I wish Apple would turn on the damn gestures for app carousel and switching.
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Post by Mav on May 28, 2013 11:06:27 GMT -8
In a market showing trouble signs, I'm not all that worried that Apple has shown little correlation to it so far.
AAPL itself remains OK-ish for now technicals-wise. 440 is the level to watch.
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Post by lance on May 28, 2013 11:08:36 GMT -8
AAPL another solid flat session. Basically still in 435-450 range. BB extremely tight. AAPL setting up for a serious move soon either up or down. Still a bear bull tie for more than a week.
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Post by Mav on May 28, 2013 11:15:29 GMT -8
With the D conference and WWDC not far around the corner this action is at least within my range of expectations.
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Post by aapldamus on May 28, 2013 11:25:38 GMT -8
Feeling bullish on AAPL within the next few months with upcoming news from AAPL. Bought a few Sept 500/525 bull call spreads today. However, the MASSIVE call wall at Jan '14 500 has me concerned if any rally above 500 will sustain into January '14 opex. Felt like rolling the dice on TSLA, bought a handful of Jun 130/135 bull call spreads @ 0.50 each.
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Post by Mav on May 28, 2013 11:33:19 GMT -8
That's more of a momo play than what I did. Super, super aggressive.
CHEAP, but super-aggressive.
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Post by bud777 on May 28, 2013 11:38:11 GMT -8
Things are kinda slow, so I wanted to bring up a topic that has been bothering me and I have not seen discussed. In all the talk about the growth of the tablet market and the death of laptops, I have not seen anyone discuss the fact that tablets are essentially a non windowed device. Considering the functionality of being able to have multiple windows open (remember what it was like to work on a DOS world?) I really wonder why this limitation has not received more attention. I thought for a while that maybe a content consumption device might not really need multiple windows, but I am beginning to doubt that. I recently refereed an article for a scientific journal. By convention, the figures are at the end of the article and a statement like "Insert Figure 2" is in the text. Constant scrolling back and forth made it very difficult to read the article. I eventually has to open two windows on my PC so I could refer to the figures as I read. I am sure there are many other instances where multiple windows are critical, yet this is never mentioned as a limitation on the penetration of tablets into the PC space. Have we had it wrong since 1995? Are multiple windows necessary? How does this affect tablet growth? Should Apple be addressing this before MS or Samesung does? Something like this perhaps: www.engadget.com/2013/04/28/paranoid-android-teases-in-app-pop-up-window-multitasking-video/i am not sure i understand what is going on in that video. it looks more like syncing between two devices. I was thinking of something as simple as splitting the iPad window in half and having two apps running with the ability to cut and paste between them
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Post by sponge on May 28, 2013 11:40:55 GMT -8
Yes. Say goodbye to bricks and mortar. Citi deserves the first wrecking ball. He has more price targets than Sponge --ok, I exaggerate. Excellent article on banking. You all need to read The Mobile Wave. It predicts that banks will team up with Apple. TC did say mobile payments is in the infancy stage. Regarding brick and mortar stores, they will be with us for another 100 years. I am a member of ICSC. International Conference Shopping Centers. They just finished their annual conference in Vegas last week. They reported that people still want to get out and shop. The impact of Amazon is still real but retail is coming back for the malls. In my view after we get the fingerprint authentication we will see Apple get into mobile payments in a serious way. I now use Passbook more often and love it. The iPhone will be used by more people getting out of the house for mobile payments then any other phone in the future.
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Post by aapldamus on May 28, 2013 11:59:50 GMT -8
That's more of a momo play than what I did. Super, super aggressive. CHEAP, but super-aggressive. Nice action into close on TSLA, decided to take my money and run. In at 0.50 per spread, out at 0.71. Nice 42% gain for a couple minutes of holding Reminds me of "the good 'ol days" of 2012 AAPL before April when I could randomly choose any call option and make money on it
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Post by Mav on May 28, 2013 12:21:19 GMT -8
TSLA WTF. Up 5+% in the last minutes?!
I'm sure butterfly pricing will continue to mess me up tomorrow. Clearly Best Play(tm) was calls and the like.
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Post by moltenfire on May 28, 2013 12:26:50 GMT -8
TSLA WTF. Up 5+% in the last minutes?! I'm sure butterfly pricing will continue to mess me up tomorrow. Clearly Best Play(tm) was calls and the like. Something happened at 3:15p. Market moving news leaked, shorts covering into the close, who knows. But sure does remind me of AAPL the day before earnings before Sept 2012. Ahh, memories
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Post by lovemyipad on May 28, 2013 12:34:13 GMT -8
Mid-channel sucks.
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Post by appledoc on May 28, 2013 12:43:29 GMT -8
Not what I hoped for. Also not as bad as I thought it was going to get after the first 90 minutes. The BB/MA sandwich is getting tighter.
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Post by phoebear611 on May 28, 2013 13:00:39 GMT -8
What time does TC speak at All Things D? I thought someone mentioned it was at 6:00 PST but maybe it's EST? Anyone know?
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