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Post by Mav on Jun 6, 2013 0:05:06 GMT -8
Waiting for Godot.
I mean waiting for AAPL to make a decisive move.
Me, I say wait 'til Monday (WWDC, keynote's at 10AM Pacific) or Tuesday. 'Til then, we're stuck in pain range like we so often are IMHO. At least 440 looks to be increasingly significant "put support".
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Post by Mav on Jun 6, 2013 0:21:33 GMT -8
Found via Mac Rumors forum discussion of fancy iPhone "calibration" machines making their way to Apple Store Genius Bar repair backrooms. I must've missed the article. Samsung's potential "premature OLED aging" concerns are mentioned by Dr. Soneira (as one reason why the S3's screen brightness was about _half_ iPhone 5's). Funny that Tim Cook brought up display longevity at the D conference... www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htmInterestingly, the S4 display in all its impressiveness still features a couple of asterisks. Dr. Soneira puts the display about 15% less bright than iPhone 5, and Samsung STILL uses the PenTile display type, which "cheaps out" on subpixels (2 vs. 3). Apple still leads in complete subpixel density per inch if I'm reading it right (since Apple uses the full 3 RGB subpixels per display pixel). www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
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Post by wheeles on Jun 6, 2013 1:38:15 GMT -8
Samsung's potential "premature OLED aging" concerns That's probably why they keep releasing new models; so the "ADHD Generation" don't notice the poor longevity of Samedung devices as they jump from one model to the next.
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 6, 2013 3:55:34 GMT -8
From the trial, it appears to this observer, AMZN is a schnickelfritz.
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Post by dreamRaj on Jun 6, 2013 3:59:21 GMT -8
Bought a few Jan 14 600s yesterday before close. If AAPL falls below 440 today, my order for a few Jan 15 500 should also get filled.
If WWDC doesn't spark our stock next week then we'll keep hangin' around here until earnings. Sucks!!
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Post by appledoc on Jun 6, 2013 5:04:00 GMT -8
Apple had better finally be updating iWork at WWDC.
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Post by wheeles on Jun 6, 2013 5:37:54 GMT -8
Apple had better finally be updating iWork at WWDC. For years I wanted Apple to make Numbers a true competitor to Excel, but as far as iWork (with the exception of Keynote) is concerned, it may as well be renamed iFail. It took ages for there to be any updates, and now the latest version requires Lion 10.7.4, which on a lot of older machines is a total dog, so many, like myself, still run 10.6.8 as a result given that Mountain Lion is not compatible. I have no intention of upgrading my Macs just to get Mountain Lion and Numbers, so I am back to Excel, which runs perfectly well on 10.6.8.
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Post by macwire on Jun 6, 2013 5:42:13 GMT -8
Red. Sigh.
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Post by lance on Jun 6, 2013 5:50:04 GMT -8
Are shareholders told any information on when, what price and how much Apple is buying back shares with the 60 billion?
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 6, 2013 6:01:04 GMT -8
I just got a call from my Congresswoman's office: Call your Mother! Our records show you haven't called her for some time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 6:05:13 GMT -8
There are approx. 45,000 call contracts at 450, 455 and 460 strikes tomorrow. At some point, and I predict soon, these weekly players will either leave for greener pastures or go broke. Frankly, I'm surprised it has lasted this long.
I'm just amazed at the amount of dumb money (retail) playing AAPL weeklies. When the call buying of weeklies abates, institutions will not have to sell on Thurs.- Fri. to keep their option premiums and instead repurchase shares and fix their underweight positions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 6:08:34 GMT -8
Here the runway for AAPL Airways tomorrow. AAPL should close above $445, unless we stay red all day, then $440. Click the image to see the puts -- I don't know why this is necessary (without uploading to hosted service like photobucket).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 6:13:34 GMT -8
Waiting for Godot. I mean waiting for AAPL to make a decisive move. Me, I say wait 'til Monday (WWDC, keynote's at 10AM Pacific) or Tuesday. 'Til then, we're stuck in pain range like we so often are IMHO. At least 440 looks to be increasingly significant "put support". Yep. There was too much anticipation with a mini-WWDC rally and the weeklies have F'd us again.
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Post by appledoc on Jun 6, 2013 6:14:05 GMT -8
Sticking with my 433-439 target before we take off.
Looks like we're headed to the 50 day, which is at 434.
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Post by macwire on Jun 6, 2013 6:14:39 GMT -8
Very very weak today
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Post by appledoc on Jun 6, 2013 6:20:33 GMT -8
Waiting for Godot. I mean waiting for AAPL to make a decisive move. Me, I say wait 'til Monday (WWDC, keynote's at 10AM Pacific) or Tuesday. 'Til then, we're stuck in pain range like we so often are IMHO. At least 440 looks to be increasingly significant "put support". Yep. There was too much anticipation with a mini-WWDC rally and the weeklies have F'd us again. I'm thinking sell-off started by the big boys, but perpetuated by retail, to get in cheap before a surprisingly big WWDC.
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Post by lance on Jun 6, 2013 6:27:07 GMT -8
Don't forget Apple is still poised to release its worst EPS since September 2011 this quarter. So for all the uber bulls on here because of the buyback and dividend, just be patient and careful. EPS will be 7ish so don't expect the stock to run up much this quarter or next with no new products.
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Post by sponge on Jun 6, 2013 6:28:08 GMT -8
Yep. There was too much anticipation with a mini-WWDC rally and the weeklies have F'd us again. I'm thinking sell-off started by the big boys, but perpetuated by retail, to get in cheap before a surprisingly big WWDC. I agree. This looks like a replay of earnings when we dropped to 385 and then recovered to 460.
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Post by appledoc on Jun 6, 2013 6:29:30 GMT -8
Don't forget Apple is still poised to release its worst EPS since September 2011 this quarter. So for all the uber bulls on here because of the buyback and dividend, just be patient and careful. EPS will be 7ish so don't expect the stock to run up much this quarter or next with no new products. That should already be taken into account though.
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Post by macwire on Jun 6, 2013 6:30:26 GMT -8
I'm not long much but I think any expectation of a big WWDC is going to disappoint. AAPL specifically time stamped its coming product cycle for fall.
Inclined to think that the inverted h and s pattern is going to fail. Probably the last cathartic move down to reset longterm longs or people that have been trying and failing to make up their gains and losses from aapls spectacular fall.
Hope I'm wrong. I'm betting I am but it's a much much smaller position then I've ever had. Focusing on actual decent trending stocks instead primarily...
Prove me wrong. Please!
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Post by appledoc on Jun 6, 2013 6:44:00 GMT -8
I'm not long much but I think any expectation of a big WWDC is going to disappoint. AAPL specifically time stamped its coming product cycle for fall. iWatch announcement at WWDC to give developers ample time for app development before a release in the early fall. No different than the iPad, which was released more than 2 months after the initial announcement. I'm not betting on that, just saying it's a possibility.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 6:48:18 GMT -8
I swear I have the worst timing ever...everytime I think we're turning it around, I buy and we plummet 20 points...the next time I think it's a great time to buy, I'm going to try shorting instead, see how that works out.
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Post by rob_london on Jun 6, 2013 6:49:07 GMT -8
Apparently from comments on Twitter, there is a downbeat research note from Wedge Partners this morning (iPhone sales in China). I haven't read the piece but it'll probably be summarised on Barron's Tech Trader web page later today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 6:49:35 GMT -8
We should see some kind of recovery by end of day. But it looks increasingly likely we'll land around $440+ tomorrow. But who knows...
There's no Apple related news to explain the sell off this morning. Maybe Wall Street is taking Sponge's suggestion that Apple build cars seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 6:51:53 GMT -8
Apparently from comments on Twitter, there is a downbeat research note from Wedge Partners this morning (iPhone sales in China). I haven't read the piece but it'll probably be summarised on Barron's Tech Trader web page later today. Ok. That could do it. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 6:52:06 GMT -8
Bought a few Jan 14 600s yesterday before close. If AAPL falls below 440 today, my order for a few Jan 15 500 should also get filled. If WWDC doesn't spark our stock next week then we'll keep hangin' around here until earnings. Sucks!! Looks like I picked the wrong week to get more aggressive.
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Post by sponge on Jun 6, 2013 6:53:42 GMT -8
In the past after big sell offs, aapl has stayed flat for 5 months. July should be the month we get over 480.
Today we seem to be playing catchup to yesterday's 200 point drop.
It is dissappointing to see us getting close to a week over week drop again, but by next Friday we should recover and be over 450.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 7:13:14 GMT -8
In the past after big sell offs, aapl has stayed flat for 5 months. July should be the month we get over 480. Today we seem to be playing catchup to yesterday's 200 point drop. It is dissappointing to see us getting close to a week over week drop again, but by next Friday we should recover and be over 450. I thought next Friday was over $465?
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jun 6, 2013 7:14:15 GMT -8
Placed a few September 440/450 bull put spreads. I'm through believing anything happens till Labor Day
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 7:21:12 GMT -8
From the trial, it appears to this observer, AMZN is a schnickelfritz. I almost spit up my oatmeal when I read that. The point of the Kindle is to consume eBooks. If there are fewer Kindles being sold, by extension there will be fewer eBooks sold. If this is typical of Amazon's thinking process, then I see storm clouds ahead.
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