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Post by lovemyipad on Jul 5, 2013 13:57:38 GMT -8
The bar is open!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 14:11:57 GMT -8
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Post by rickag on Jul 5, 2013 14:57:46 GMT -8
Should have patented it. Then we could be posting," I remember when burgess used to post here, now he owns an island in the Caribean.
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Post by artman1033 on Jul 5, 2013 17:31:38 GMT -8
Can I get a large pitcher of ICE water PLEASE! I'm trying to lose weight!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 17:40:14 GMT -8
Should have patented it. Then we could be posting," I remember when burgess used to post here, now he owns an island in the Caribean. Lol. Of course when I said "I've always said..." I was referring to perhaps the last few months since the iWatch rumours started.
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Post by rickag on Jul 5, 2013 17:47:11 GMT -8
Burgess, I know, I'm just trying to bring a few chuckles here & there.
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Post by lucy on Jul 5, 2013 18:23:20 GMT -8
as far as adding a few chuckles....Gregg I hear you-re bringing back Grunge...California I presume...
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Post by JDSoCal on Jul 5, 2013 22:12:55 GMT -8
Enjoying a greyhound, as usual.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jul 6, 2013 3:01:35 GMT -8
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Post by phoebear611 on Jul 6, 2013 3:46:35 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 4:27:43 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 5:38:11 GMT -8
This is why AAPL closed on Friday. Thanks weekly call buyers! Not.
I give up trying to post an image here. Go see Travis...
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Post by PikesPique on Jul 6, 2013 5:40:42 GMT -8
Funny how the company revealing what the new low-cost iPhone will look like also advertises their own Android device that mimics that same design. Self serving. Makes the whole reveal suspect.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Jul 6, 2013 7:07:47 GMT -8
PED nails a great example of what passes for "journalism" on some major media today.. Unbelievable that some ABC stations carried this conclusion...... tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/07/06/apple-most-hated-smartphone/FORTUNE -- Here's what passes for tech news on ABC TV these days: "Tough news for Apple. Research firm We Are Social names the iPhone 5 the most-hated smartphone on the market for receiving the most complaints on social media. Last year, by contrast, the Samsung Galaxy S4 was named the most-loved smartphone." That item, which aired Friday on at least some ABC affiliates, struck me as unlikely, given that the "most-hated smartphone" is also the world's best-selling smartphone. So I set out to try to find its source. As of Saturday morning, I was only partially successful. Tracing the "most-hated" meme was easy enough. A half-dozen Web stories all led to the same story: A piece by Victoria Woollaston published the day before in that bastion of quality journalism, the Daily Mail. The headline: "Apple's iPhone 5 is the most hated handset -- while the majority of people love the Samsung Galaxy S4, study finds" Like the ABC News piece, Woollaston cited We Are Social, which according to her story had scanned Twitter, blogs and online forums following the launch of four major handsets -- Apple's (AAPL) iPhone 5, Research in Motion's (BBRY) Z10, Nokia's (NOK) Lumia 920 and Samsung's Galaxy S4 -- and produced the chart above. There is indeed a company called We Are Social, which was happy to tweet on Friday "We're in @mailonline!" But there was no such study on their website that I could find, and no way of determining whether the research was theirs or someone else's. (A call to their New York office went unanswered and their phone number had not yet been set up to receive voice mail.) But taking the data above at face value, let's see what they actually say: "Launch day conversations" about the iPhone 5 outnumbered those about the Galaxy S4 by more than 12 to 1 Comments with a "negative connotation" about the iPhone 5 outnumbered the Galaxy S4 by less than 2 to 1 That there was far more chatter online about Apple's newest smartphone than Samsung's does not surprise me in the least. Nor should it surprise anyone who follows the company that more of that chatter had "negative connotations," especially given the fact that the iPhone 5 came with a controversial new power socket and a new Map app that compared unfavorably to Google Maps. But note that nowhere in the chart do the phrases "most-hated" or "most-loved" appear. That, I suspect, was the work of some genius at the Daily Mail's London office. And that, I'm pretty sure, is how the idea made its way to American television.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 8:37:10 GMT -8
as far as adding a few chuckles....Gregg I hear you-re bringing back Grunge...California I presume... ? ? ?
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Post by artman1033 on Jul 6, 2013 10:01:36 GMT -8
OOPS!best line from the story: Google, the owner and developer of Android, was notified about the security exposure months ago. probably not market moving..... who cares? who thought their Android phone was safe?
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Post by rutgersguy92 on Jul 6, 2013 10:18:36 GMT -8
OOPS!best line from the story: Google, the owner and developer of Android, was notified about the security exposure months ago. probably not market moving..... who cares? who thought their Android phone was safe? Last year or so, a blurb was making the internet rounds about the Android operating system either having a virus or having a hole in its system which allows a particular virus to enter. Not sure if it was true, but if it was, it should have gotten better traction.
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Post by JDSoCal on Jul 6, 2013 10:28:24 GMT -8
OOPS!best line from the story: Google, the owner and developer of Android, was notified about the security exposure months ago. probably not market moving..... who cares? who thought their Android phone was safe? But open is more secure because it is open!
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Post by Mav on Jul 6, 2013 10:42:46 GMT -8
This is why AAPL closed on Friday. Thanks weekly call buyers! Not. I give up trying to post an image here. Go see Travis... OK, I think I see what you were trying to do here. Adding the image when you're in modify post mode didn't help? Anyway, postimage doesn't always work so great. Yup, pain range looked kinda like 415-420, but on the other hand, 30+ points in less than a week is still a pretty nice move. For AAPL to fall off just three bucks isn't a danger sign by any means. I saw it as a day to buy in a bit cheaper than the day before.
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Post by Mav on Jul 6, 2013 10:44:22 GMT -8
It'll still "cost too much". But as long as it's iPod mini "costs too much" or iPad mini "costs too much", I think I can deal.
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Post by lovemyipad on Jul 6, 2013 11:06:15 GMT -8
Technicals for Non-Technicals Chart:
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Post by JDSoCal on Jul 6, 2013 11:19:39 GMT -8
Technicals for Non-Technicals Chart: So what you're saying is, I am retarded. #shortbus #special
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Post by artman1033 on Jul 6, 2013 11:20:59 GMT -8
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Post by lovemyipad on Jul 6, 2013 11:32:55 GMT -8
So what you're saying is, I am retarded. #shortbus #special ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Mav on Jul 6, 2013 11:52:58 GMT -8
iPad? Is it not valid to measure from around June 17 @431-432?
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Post by lovemyipad on Jul 6, 2013 12:03:45 GMT -8
iPad? Is it not valid to measure from around June 17 @431-432? Perfectly valid!! Since Fibs are all about proportionality, no matter how we slice & dice, certain levels should appear in multiple slices & dices -- look for the confluenza. Any Fib grid that makes you say "Fibs are magic!" is a keeper.
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Post by bud777 on Jul 6, 2013 12:20:16 GMT -8
Technicals for Non-Technicals Chart: Thank you for posting this chart. I continue to be fascinated that technical analysis seems to work. ( I know, until it doesn't). What fascinates me is that a process with so many influences and subject to emotional factors can be predictable to levels like 61.8%. So I read a little more and now I understand that the 61.8% is based on Fibonacci numbers and that Fibonacci numbers are everywhere in nature so maybe they apply in the stock market. So let's assume that this is the case...that the market is just like other natural processes in important ways and thus this macro behavior can be used to explain and predict. In other words, the behavior described and predicted by Fibonacci numbers is the consequence of underlying functions of growth and decline (in buyers and sellers). Let me call this the "Fibonacci behavior". If that is the case, it seems worthwhile to examine the system in terms of the functions directly. The behavior of a dynamic system is certainly going to be difficult to predict, especially when feedback (i.e. momentum) is involved, but additional complications like the variable amount of money available to buy stock, the relative momentum of other stocks (e.g. Google) and other factors would complicate the system behavior beyond "Fibonacci behavior". I think we can use systems dynamics to model this more complicated hypothesis. This model could be validated by restricting the external factors and seeing if it behaves in keeping with the projections of normal TA. Then the external factors can be enhanced to provide a richer alternative to TA. I have been thinking about this for about a year and have made a few initial attempts. One of the fundamental building blocks of a model like this is the mechanism used to model price changes. It is important to relate the change in price to the difference between the perceived value and the current price. But the relationship should also be influenced by the number of potential buyers and sellers. Of course, as the price changes, these numbers change as well. I would be interested in hearing how others view this relationship. I know "When there are more buyers than sellers the price goes up" and vice versa, but I am looking for a function that gives the new price in terms of the perceived value, the current price, the number of buyers and the number of sellers. If I get this thing working, I will make it available here. If you have any ideas on this function, please let me know.
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Post by appledoc on Jul 6, 2013 12:52:23 GMT -8
Technicals for dummies: buy at the close when daily MACDh has bullish divergence, and sell at the close when daily MACDh has bearish divergence (or you've reached a profit you are happy with). Only employ this with commons. And stay out of earnings entirely.
You may catch a bad day here and there, but you'll always avoid the multi-day major sell-offs.
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Post by lovemyipad on Jul 6, 2013 12:53:31 GMT -8
Bud, if I could borrow your brain for just a day...
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Post by Mav on Jul 6, 2013 13:56:28 GMT -8
iPad? Is it not valid to measure from around June 17 @431-432? Perfectly valid!! Since Fibs are all about proportionality, no matter how we slice & dice, certain levels should appear in multiple slices & dices -- look for the confluenza. Any Fib grid that makes you say "Fibs are magic!" is a keeper. That's what I thought. please don't ban meOn that more micro basis, AAPL basically held the 61.8% of the ground lost from that 431-432ish to 388.9 cascade.
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