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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Aug 3, 2013 13:21:08 GMT -8
So, do we gap up a bit on Monday on the ITC news? I don't know that the veto of the ban was wholly expected...and it's not a game changer....but sentiment, sentiment...
Suddenly Apple looks to be doing things right on every front and the winds have begun to favor it...
Don't fight the trend..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 13:46:44 GMT -8
So, do we gap up a bit on Monday on the ITC news? I don't know that the veto of the ban was wholly expected...and it's not a game changer....but sentiment, sentiment... Suddenly Apple looks to be doing things right on every front and the winds have begun to favor it... Don't fight the trend.. It should be positive for apple, sets a clear precedent and I doubt ITC will be placing any future import bans based on SEPs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 13:50:00 GMT -8
I don't see it as a catalyst. It certainly doesn't hurt, particularly if some held back last week, anticipating the ban would not be overturned.
Sentiment does seem to have changed and why not? We're marching into September and October, when Apple is expected to unleash upgrades to all products that matter to Apple sales and earnings, plus an extra iPhone.
WS can do the math with the December quarter, and October might supply the guidance with strong clues if they don't.
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Post by Mav on Aug 3, 2013 14:10:55 GMT -8
I'm not entirely sure AAPL's got 100% open-field running in front of it, what with so many opportunities for "iPhone disappointment". OTOH, if iPhone 5S and 5C are "as advertised" and at the right price? I'm buying any dips for sure. 5M sold in a weekend will be obliterated provided enough supply.
For now, level by level. 465.75 (call it 465ish), then 470, then the SMA-200 (472/476 depending on div-adjusting), then we'll see how it goes.
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Post by appledoc on Aug 3, 2013 14:28:44 GMT -8
So, do we gap up a bit on Monday on the ITC news? I don't know that the veto of the ban was wholly expected...and it's not a game changer....but sentiment, sentiment... Suddenly Apple looks to be doing things right on every front and the winds have begun to favor it... Don't fight the trend.. It should be positive for apple, sets a clear precedent and I doubt ITC will be placing any future import bans based on SEPs. I agree. And remember, the ban was shrugged off by WS back when it happened. Sentiment has changed significantly since 385, and no matter what methodology you use to trade or invest, sentiment is the only marker that ultimately matters. This is a quiet rebound on anemic volume. I love it. I'm ready to throw everything I've got at Jan 15s if we can break 465.75.
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Post by Mav on Aug 3, 2013 14:43:52 GMT -8
Question appledoc - why not 470? Also an important resistance level. Let's not forget 485 - after that, AAPL gets a fresh chance to make a run at that earnings gap at 515 (based on last trade) in January.
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Post by appledoc on Aug 3, 2013 15:30:19 GMT -8
Question appledoc - why not 470? Also an important resistance level. Let's not forget 485 - after that, AAPL gets a fresh chance to make a run at that earnings gap at 515 (based on last trade) in January. Because I can't come up with a good bear count that would still be valid if we cross 465. I'm looking at the next retrace happening around 472 or 484+. Hoping for 484+ because that would put us in my super bull count. I'll be buying that retrace.
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Post by tuffett on Aug 3, 2013 15:42:26 GMT -8
I am so pleasantly surprised right now. Hopefully this adds to the positive momentum. Can't wait to get back to the high watermark in my account...but that's a ways off.
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Post by appledoc on Aug 3, 2013 15:45:24 GMT -8
I am so pleasantly surprised right now. Hopefully this adds to the positive momentum. Can't wait to get back to the high watermark in my account...but that's a ways off. It's going to take me years to get back unless I start hitting home runs. Entering the real world is costly.
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Post by Mav on Aug 3, 2013 16:07:00 GMT -8
Stay in the game. That's the key. As long as you're not out, there's always tomorrow.
Unless you over-margined but that's another deal.
I gotcha, 465 being EW-related. Well then, let's get past the point of no return...for bears ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 18:16:05 GMT -8
My last buy was around $410 - $415. I did catch some at $390 and change. I think Apple will blow through $465 like $10 spent in Vegas.
It will be nice to see the TA boys and girl catch the next wave after $465 to move things even higher.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Aug 3, 2013 18:31:34 GMT -8
Any port in a storm, brother. TA, FA, entrails of a goose...astrology....it's all good
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Aug 3, 2013 19:15:14 GMT -8
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Post by JDSoCal on Aug 3, 2013 19:48:01 GMT -8
My last buy was around $410 - $415. I did catch some at $390 and change. I think Apple will blow through $465 like $10 spent in Vegas. It will be nice to see the TA boys and girl catch the next wave after $465 to move things even higher. You know me, I'm no TA boy or girl, that's for sure; but, just for shits and giggles, here's what happened the last two times AAPL faced 463.XX: I can't believe I'm even talking like this, but the last two earnings (Jan and April) seemed to be a pop from a low going into or around earnings, then a top, then a drop, then a lower high, then a lower low. If this chart signifies anything - and previous attempts to find patterns around earnings suggests it's fool's gold to try - it's that buying into strength after earnings is Ho Lee Fuk!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 20:24:04 GMT -8
JD, you are a MADMAN. Actually the difference this time is we have Apple's full, new product line up on deck, swinging a juiced bat and arms full of steroids.
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Post by JDSoCal on Aug 3, 2013 20:40:31 GMT -8
JD, you are a MADMAN. Actually the difference this time is we have Apple's full, new product line up on deck, swinging a juiced bat and arms full of steroids. Indeed, last time such anticipation made the stock rally to an all-time high about a week after iPhone 5. Then what happened? 2011 and 2012: Rally for iPhone release, then AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! after Oct earnings.Disclaimer: Past results are no guarantee of future performance.
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Post by mace on Aug 4, 2013 2:06:26 GMT -8
iWatch is more iPod than iPhone if you know what I mean. Could still be tremendously valuable to Apple, but probably not as a growth driver on its own. The next evolution of iPod/nano though, sure. I hope an iWatch isn't more than 1-2 years away, but there's no huge rush on it if the tech isn't there yet. Very frustrating how battery tech seems to have stagnated over the years. iWatch is a LTE antennae for all iOS devices except iPhones.
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 4, 2013 2:34:53 GMT -8
I would gladly give up so much for better battery life and I KNOW that there are many in my camp. Wish that could be addressed in some shape or form. I walk around with chargers everywhere - it's stupid already. There must be someone, somewhere with a bigger brain at AAPL that can resolve this.
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Post by artman1033 on Aug 4, 2013 4:50:43 GMT -8
Concluding remarks: These two points aside I feel that we’ll eventually support Android tablets. Thanks to PBS’s hard work we now have excellent web site support for this platform so you’re not out in the cold – you’ll still be able watch FRONTLINE just as you do now. The market share of this platform is only going to go up in the coming months, which will help make the case for dedicating more resources. And thankfully the design and back-end technology work being done in support of the current application will go a long way towards an eventual Android version. We’ll get there. It’s just going to take some time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 5:02:55 GMT -8
I would gladly give up so much for better battery life and I KNOW that there are many in my camp. Wish that could be addressed in some shape or form. I walk around with chargers everywhere - it's stupid already. There must be someone, somewhere with a bigger brain at AAPL that can resolve this. Although I don't need battery chargers like you, Apple is hopefully going to enhance battery life on the next iPhone much as it did the MacBook Air. Apple gets it now (I think, I hope). The fixation on making the thinnest phone at the expense of battery life needs to be addressed. If Apple offered two iPhones that differed only by thickness, the one offering twice the battery life would outsell the thin one by a significant margin IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 5:07:18 GMT -8
Indeed, last time such anticipation made the stock rally to an all-time high about a week after iPhone 5. Then what happened? 2011 and 2012: Rally for iPhone release, then AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! after Oct earnings.Disclaimer: Past results are no guarantee of future performance. Unlike last year, WS can run AAPL higher on decent EPS growth starting with the Dec. quarter (and continuing), supported by the promise of a new product category in 2014 and easier YOY comparisons in March and beyond.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 5:33:24 GMT -8
Giz is running a positive review of Moto X. The video is ok, but honestly, aside from the voice activated Google Now (which may or may not work as advertised), it doesn't look that interesting to me. The design is so-so. Amoled displays do suck. Many put a case on their phone so why do I care about the custom back colors? Moto has a mixed record on its cameras. Older Android version but probably upgradeable (or are the hardware specs not optimized for 4.3?). The larger display is probably its best feature vs. the iPhone.
I think it will steal market share from the GS4 but the iPhone? I doubt it, based on what I'm expecting of the iPhone 5s (or 6).
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Post by nagrani on Aug 4, 2013 5:44:25 GMT -8
I love the moto phone. It's kind of like gateway coming into the market - dell (Samsung) has a new player to compete with. Let them fight each other for the geeks and Walmart demographic.
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Post by rickag on Aug 4, 2013 6:06:06 GMT -8
I would gladly give up so much for better battery life and I KNOW that there are many in my camp. Wish that could be addressed in some shape or form. I walk around with chargers everywhere - it's stupid already. There must be someone, somewhere with a bigger brain at AAPL that can resolve this. Although I don't need battery chargers like you, Apple is hopefully going to enhance battery life on the next iPhone much as it did the MacBook Air. Apple gets it now (I think, I hope). The fixation on making the thinnest phone at the expense of battery life needs to be addressed. If Apple offered two iPhones that differed only by thickness, the one offering twice the battery life would outsell the thin one by a significant margin IMO. I agree about battery life, but I have no idea how thick or how much heavier an iPhone with twice the battery life would be. Or 50% or 25% more battery life for that matter. Maybe some more technically inclined could respond .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 6:29:11 GMT -8
I'll defer to someone with a more technical answer, but consider the thickness of the back or front panel of the iPhone 4. That additional thickness should double the battery life. I think most would choose extra thickness for longer life.
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Post by rickag on Aug 4, 2013 6:36:34 GMT -8
Double the battery life would definitely create a significant surge in sales.. .... And AAPL.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Aug 4, 2013 6:43:19 GMT -8
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Post by artman1033 on Aug 4, 2013 7:26:49 GMT -8
Double the battery life would definitely create a significant surge in sales.. .... And AAPL. It appears to me an $80.00 Mophie juice pack would suffice = up to 80% increase in battery service.
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 4, 2013 7:48:39 GMT -8
Double the battery life would definitely create a significant surge in sales.. .... And AAPL. It appears to me an $80.00 Mophie juice pack would suffice = up to 80% increase in battery service. I tried the Mophie and it is very cumbersome - wraps all the way around and is immensely bulky- I stopped using it after two times and gave it to my sister who also hated it. AAPL could incorporate it in some way and stream line the size and come up with something much, much better. Battery life is ALWAYS a perpetual complaint. I am sure they know it - I'm preaching to the converted - just wish they would make a significant improvement.
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Post by rickag on Aug 4, 2013 7:55:54 GMT -8
Double the battery life would definitely create a significant surge in sales.. .... And AAPL. It appears to me an $80.00 Mophie juice pack would suffice = up to 80% increase in battery service. Had one for my old iPhone 3GS, not ideal for me at least.
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