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Post by lovemyipad on Aug 22, 2013 12:26:03 GMT -8
I was forced to trade gold futures today because I was so bored out of my mind with the NASDAQ halted. I should trade more gold, less fruit. ;D
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Post by Mav on Aug 22, 2013 12:27:27 GMT -8
I bought SLV. ;D
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Post by lovemyipad on Aug 22, 2013 12:29:05 GMT -8
Well I sold 44 shares of the 50 I bought @ an average price of 438.77. 6 free shares, woohoo. Way to go!!
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 22, 2013 12:32:04 GMT -8
The day - as I am sure you all remember too well - that FB had their IPO - the NASDAQ chairman was in front of all the cameras. When the crisis started to unravel he was nowhere to be found. The same happened today. Crisis management 101 is to be communicative even if you have nothing to say - you should be keeping investors calm to some degree. In addition there doesn't seem to be a system to back the current system up. They should be able to switch things over. Redundant systems just like redundant trading floors should be built. After 9-11 most - actually all- trading floors at BDs and large banks had other trading floors at other (usually remote) areas. I remember spending countless hours on things like this with internal risk managers. It seems to me that the exchanges which are virtually all technological these days - did not come up with a Plan B. we are so ripe for technological terrorism - it's shameful ! I feel really badly for weekly holders - what is their recourse? - tails they win, heads you lose!
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Post by rickag on Aug 22, 2013 12:33:29 GMT -8
Well I sold 44 shares of the 50 I bought @ an average price of 438.77. 6 free shares, woohoo. Way to go!! A gain is a gain, notice though that the woohoo wasn't WOOHOO!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 13:29:53 GMT -8
This market is a joke. AAPL breaks 500 and they halt the whole market. Then iCahn't pops out another tweet to try and rescue his ailing position and we open up 2.5 bucks. It's a total farce.
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Post by redinaustin on Aug 22, 2013 13:35:42 GMT -8
This market is a joke. AAPL breaks 500 and they halt the whole market. Then iCahn't pops out another tweet to try and rescue his ailing position and we open up 2.5 bucks. It's a total farce. None of this shit would happen if only shares were traded.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 13:38:23 GMT -8
This market is a joke. AAPL breaks 500 and they halt the whole market. Then iCahn't pops out another tweet to try and rescue his ailing position and we open up 2.5 bucks. It's a total farce. What?? You mean the stock market isn't fair and companies aren't priced accurately?? People use their influence to make themselves rich...this is shocking to me
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Post by Mav on Aug 22, 2013 13:42:47 GMT -8
Er, I don't think the NASDAQ halted just because AAPL broke 500. And really? You think Icahn is _that_ nervous? He's hardly the dumbest investor on the block. I think he can deal with some retrace now and then. Though yes, those tweets give him something of an advantage over other market participants. At least, while people still pay attention to them.
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Post by Mav on Aug 22, 2013 13:43:52 GMT -8
This market is a joke. AAPL breaks 500 and they halt the whole market. Then iCahn't pops out another tweet to try and rescue his ailing position and we open up 2.5 bucks. It's a total farce. What?? You mean the stock market isn't fair and companies aren't priced accurately?? People use their influence to make themselves rich...this is shocking to me Somebody tell the SEC (administration-agnostic comment, they've always been about as watchful as the watchdog Mayhem was playing on the Allstate commercials)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 13:45:19 GMT -8
Er, I don't think the NASDAQ halted just because AAPL broke 500. And really? You think Icahn is _that_ nervous? He's hardly the dumbest investor on the block. I think he can deal with some retrace now and then. Though yes, those tweets give him something of an advantage over other market participants. At least, while people still pay attention to them. Exactly...I'm sure he's been around enough to not panic when Apple drops from $510 to $498 after it's just risen almost $120 in 2 months.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 13:46:55 GMT -8
Er, I don't think the NASDAQ halted just because AAPL broke 500. And really? You think Icahn is _that_ nervous? He's hardly the dumbest investor on the block. I think he can deal with some retrace now and then. Though yes, those tweets give him something of an advantage over other market participants. At least, while people still pay attention to them. The market is poised to take a bath and AAPL breaking 500 could easily act as a trigger. As for iCahn't, he saw his last tweet work wonderfully well. Why not go for seconds?
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Post by gtrplyr on Aug 22, 2013 14:30:56 GMT -8
This market is a joke. AAPL breaks 500 and they halt the whole market. Then iCahn't pops out another tweet to try and rescue his ailing position and we open up 2.5 bucks. It's a total farce. None of this shit would happen if only shares were traded. +1 I realize it's not a popular opinion on this board but the stock market is the new casino for most.
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Post by rickag on Aug 22, 2013 14:41:08 GMT -8
Way to go!! A gain is a gain, notice though that the woohoo wasn't WOOHOO!! Oh, I forgot to add. Thank you lovemyipad for the positive response.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 14:46:15 GMT -8
Er, I don't think the NASDAQ halted just because AAPL broke 500. And really? You think Icahn is _that_ nervous? He's hardly the dumbest investor on the block. I think he can deal with some retrace now and then. Though yes, those tweets give him something of an advantage over other market participants. At least, while people still pay attention to them. Exactly...I'm sure he's been around enough to not panic when Apple drops from $510 to $498 after it's just risen almost $120 in 2 months. If memory serves he bought between $400 and $440.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 14:48:03 GMT -8
This market is a joke. AAPL breaks 500 and they halt the whole market. Then iCahn't pops out another tweet to try and rescue his ailing position and we open up 2.5 bucks. It's a total farce. What?? You mean the stock market isn't fair and companies aren't priced accurately?? People use their influence to make themselves rich...this is shocking to me I'm not shocked that people try to use their influence to make themselves rich(er) but that they are able to without any penalties being imposed on them by the regulator.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 14:48:32 GMT -8
None of this shit would happen if only shares were traded. +1 I realize it's not a popular opinion on this board but the stock market is the new casino for most. And like most visitors to casinos, most here haven't a clue as to what is going on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 14:51:21 GMT -8
Er, I don't think the NASDAQ halted just because AAPL broke 500. And really? You think Icahn is _that_ nervous? He's hardly the dumbest investor on the block. I think he can deal with some retrace now and then. Though yes, those tweets give him something of an advantage over other market participants. At least, while people still pay attention to them. Exactly...I'm sure he's been around enough to not panic when Apple drops from $510 to $498 after it's just risen almost $120 in 2 months. You don't easily liquidate a position worth $1B in short order without it having some impact. He's probably not finished liquidating so having it start to fall is not part of his plan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 14:51:50 GMT -8
+1 I realize it's not a popular opinion on this board but the stock market is the new casino for most. And like most visitors to casinos, most here haven't a clue as to what is going on. Ain't that the truth! EDIT: And, yes, it was AAPL that broke the NASDAQ. www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-22/it-was-aapl-after-all
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Post by Mav on Aug 22, 2013 15:37:17 GMT -8
I WAS wondering why the bid was _over_ the ask on my platform quote service.
But this wasn't about AAPL breaking a level. The system was messed up at the time according to what ZeroHedge said.
Zero-visibility trading tends to cause some consternation I'm guessing.
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 22, 2013 15:43:44 GMT -8
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Post by lucy on Aug 22, 2013 16:04:03 GMT -8
+1 I realize it's not a popular opinion on this board but the stock market is the new casino for most. And like most visitors to casinos, most here haven't a clue as to what is going on. Why don't you 'enlighten' us???
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Post by david on Aug 22, 2013 16:28:50 GMT -8
+1 I realize it's not a popular opinion on this board but the stock market is the new casino for most. And like most visitors to casinos, most here haven't a clue as to what is going on. Speaking for yourself?
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Post by fas550 on Aug 22, 2013 17:38:01 GMT -8
Worth reiterating - there will always be controversy surrounding Cook's performance because the hand he was dealt was to fill the shoes of someone whose shoes were just impossible to fill. I like Iger's comments - Tim is his own man. Mav is correct in that the company has gotten so big and I wonder how SJ would have handled it - hey maybe better but maybe worse. We'll never know and can only speculate but in my mind I feel that everyone will move on from comparisons once a successful product that SJ was barely involved in comes to fruition. For now, the comparisons still remain. The article made its way around several sites this morning so I wanted people here to be aware of it as well...FWIW TC gets an A+ for managing the company immediately following SJs passing. IMHO his reaction to the stocks fall was dismal. Essentially everything everyone was screaming for is coming about now and only because he finally listened or could not stand the pressure. He's knocked off this, "We just spend our time concentrating on products people love" BS and realized hey I'm charge of the financial well being of the company AND shareholders whether they be long or short term. TCs having dinner or lunch with an activist shareholder thats has basically stated there is no justification to hold on to so much cash: that tells us how far he's come. I'm happy with how things are going now.
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Post by Mav on Aug 22, 2013 17:56:20 GMT -8
Change is hard. But Tim is just about done with the transition.
If iPhone delivers, look out world.
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Post by gtrplyr on Aug 22, 2013 19:05:19 GMT -8
Change is hard. But Tim is just about done with the transition. If iPhone delivers, look out world. Just out of curiosity what exactly do you mean by "Deliver" ? I'm of the opinion that incremental change is all that can be done with the phone at this point. It can't get smaller ... it could easily get bigger ... other than the size issue : 1. Longer Battery Life 2. Faster Processor 3. Better Camera 4. Higher definition screen (Can't imagine it needs to get any better) 5. More Memory What else can they possibly do ?? All I can possibly think about is fingerprint recognition and or wearable technology that syncs with the phone. BUT where I think Apple has the greatest chance for raising the bar is ecosystem. Making sure your: Tablet, PC, Television and Phone are all working together to make your life easier. As it stands now I think Apple could do better .... I'm more interested in what iOS7 has to offer as I doubt they showed all their cards at the keynote. Once again I'm just curious what people want in their phone ...
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Post by appledoc on Aug 22, 2013 19:06:37 GMT -8
And like most visitors to casinos, most here haven't a clue as to what is going on. Why don't you 'enlighten' us??? Maybe he can teach us about how buybacks work.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Aug 22, 2013 19:24:08 GMT -8
You know, I like this group...and God knows I can be a pain in the butt at times ( well...lots of times) but we gotta all cut down on the arrogance and the snark.....
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Post by Mav on Aug 22, 2013 19:36:50 GMT -8
My definition of "deliver" - iOS 7 should do fine:
5S with the usual enhancements, with fingerprint security system as the tentpole. A7 with 2x CPU/GPU would be nice if only because Samsung is showing these kinds of performance gains are still possible. Beyond that nicer camera, somewhat better battery life, maybe a new LTE version and China Mobile is all Apple "needs" this iteration. Bonus if Apple finally improves flash memory capacity to say 24GB standard low-end, 48/96 higher-end.
iPhone 5C with A6. I mean, game over everybody else, at least if 5C can reach a magical $0 price point. But overall, having a "new" phone (I assume with LTE) will be quite good for Apple and worrisome for the competition. Well maybe not Moto X, since they've got wood. ;D
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Post by Mav on Aug 22, 2013 19:43:01 GMT -8
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