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Post by appledoc on Sept 3, 2013 15:05:56 GMT -8
Just a thought... TC talked about driving more traffic to the Apple stores. What if they stagger the iphone rollout and make it available at the Apple store and apple.com on say 9-13 and do general release on 9-20? Could that be why the 1.2 million are already headed here? Could be, however, if I were running a carrier and signed a deal to sell a certain number of iPhones I think the contract I signed would prohibit Apple from doing just that. I thought carrier specific phones sold through Apple count toward that number? Not a very good day. Won't have my charts until later.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 15:11:42 GMT -8
Thinking more about that, what if the only "plan" offered was unsubsidized? What do the subsidizing carriers do to attract those buyers? And, of course, if Apple rolls out the next iPhone in that manner, its going to screw up 1st weekend sales as a forecasting model. So Apple would have no "Free" on contract iPhone offered by Carriers? Seems unlikely. Maybe a low end model (8GB, no LTE) I could believe as a unsubsidized only model, with the 16GB LTE model being the $450/free on contract phone.
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 15:19:30 GMT -8
Not a very good day. Won't have my charts until later. Yup. No conviction to buy... yet.
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 16:17:51 GMT -8
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Post by rickag on Sept 3, 2013 16:31:55 GMT -8
Could be, however, if I were running a carrier and signed a deal to sell a certain number of iPhones I think the contract I signed would prohibit Apple from doing just that. I thought carrier specific phones sold through Apple count toward that number? Not a very good day. Won't have my charts until later. My bad
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 16:34:37 GMT -8
Gee, look at all those colors...what can it mean? I'm with Mav..the fingerprint sensor has to be there..the circles would not only be meaningless, they would be insulting without something to represent there. Those could be the new colors that the iphone 5s/c are available. The circles could represent "white". I am hoping fingerprint scanner though. I thought it was representing the white iPhone option as well. I guess the brighten your day language refers to both the new bright colors of the iPhone 5C, and also the new dual flash in the 5S.
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Post by geraci on Sept 3, 2013 17:42:11 GMT -8
The thing that is weird about the white circles is that they could have made the white with a simple drop shadow instead of the round light-gray border. Notice that the white circle appears smaller than the other colors because of the border. I think these white circles represent more than color. I think they represent a physical feature related to the new fingerprint sensor.
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 17:45:17 GMT -8
There's only one explanation that makes sense IMHO. Clayton Morris's source was a good one.
I imagine Schiller will draw attention to the mysterious silver ring around the home button next week as a lead-in to the scanner reveal. Should be pretty awesome.
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Post by pauls on Sept 3, 2013 17:54:40 GMT -8
The only thing that brightened my day is the too little/too late msft-nok deal. It would have made a lot more sense a couple years ago. Instead they waited til windows phone was steeped in the stank of Zune. At least it shows commitment, now that the smartphone market is mature and entrenched. The Ballmer era will not pass smoothly or quickly. And the era of Apple-like hardware/software integration is well underway (goog/Motorola, msft/nok).
Just makes aapl shares look more sensible than ever.
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Post by pauls on Sept 3, 2013 17:57:09 GMT -8
The thing that is weird about the white circles is that they could have made the white with a simple drop shadow instead of the round light-gray border. Notice that the white circle appears smaller than the other colors because of the border. I think these white circles represent more than color. I think they represent a physical feature related to the new fingerprint sensor. Agreed. And should the fingerprint sensor obviousness prove false, heaven help us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 19:02:41 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 19:07:16 GMT -8
iOS 7 does feature Games Controller support, so an updated Apple TV with some upgraded GPU grunt along with a controller and some games demoed might be the time to do it.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 3, 2013 19:10:23 GMT -8
This I would love.. And a new broad direction for revenue
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 19:34:55 GMT -8
You mean Apple TV as mini console, not TV TV.
Eh, nice but not a big AAPL booster right away.
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 19:35:58 GMT -8
I had a picture doing some basic decoding of the invite but I might not have saved it. 95% sure Clayton Morris is right on the money on the silver-ring fingerprint scanner. Which is probably for ID/differentiation purposes, which is just fine and a smart move in any case (makes it easy to tell it's a 5S)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 19:47:09 GMT -8
You mean Apple TV as mini console, not TV TV. Eh, nice but not a big AAPL booster right away. Apple TV Refreshed Plus. Bigger processor, more RAM, storage, and third party console to accept iPhone/iPod Touch for gaming. $299 (excluding console). However, it's odd that Apple would recently add to content menu so close to any refresh of Apple TV.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 3, 2013 19:48:10 GMT -8
You mean Apple TV as mini console, not TV TV. Eh, nice but not a big AAPL booster right away. A first step into a huge market that AirPlay and IOS + Mavericks could do very well in.... By the way ,New Mavericks release tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 19:54:39 GMT -8
Kevin Spacey gave an excellent presentation on new paradigm of how we watch TV and pushing the content providers to relent to market demand for change. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pgCrYU-Cds
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 19:59:39 GMT -8
Mercel, about that iOS 7 "graphics lag" thing I posted about yesterday.
Something about complaints here and there iOS 7 being a little too fancy for its own good at the cost of performance/response time?
Got an opinion about that? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 20:09:55 GMT -8
NO lag on my iPhone 5 nor iPad 4. Your mileage with a different model may vary....
BTW, iOS7 looks great on the iPad. The icons are bigger and the animations are well done and restrained, well short of the annoying flying screens of Windows Mobile. The method to quit apps by flicking the open apps as cards ala WebOS are fun and MUCH better than pressing a small "x" on the icon at the bottom.
iOS6 looks decidedly old and stale by comparison. Everyone's going to prefer it. There will be a small learning curve but it's NOT anything like the jump between Windows 7 > Windows 8 (sorry for the offensive analogy).
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Post by rezonate on Sept 3, 2013 20:20:06 GMT -8
NO lag on my iPhone 5 nor iPad 4. Your mileage with a different model may vary.... iOS6 looks decidedly old and stale by comparison. Everyone's going to prefer it. There will be a small learning curve but it's NOT anything like the jump between Windows 7 > Windows 8 (sorry for the offensive analogy). Just installed on my 4S. Thanks for the heads up, looking forward to crushing that curve.
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 20:20:53 GMT -8
NO lag on my iPhone 5 nor iPad 4. Your mileage with a different model may vary.... BTW, iOS7 looks great on the iPad. The icons are bigger and the animations are well done and restrained, well short of the annoying flying screens of Windows Mobile. The method to quit apps by flicking the open apps as cards ala WebOS are fun and MUCH better than pressing a small "x" on the icon at the bottom. iOS6 looks decidedly old and stale by comparison. Everyone's going to prefer it. There will be a small learning curve but it's NOT anything like the jump between Windows 7 > Windows 8 (sorry for the offensive analogy). Thanks for the perspective, Mercel. I still say webOS took much more inspiration from Cover Flow/iPhone OS 1.0's window switching in Safari than Apple took from webOS app switching. I really wish Apple would add iPad's home screen/multitask multitouch functionality to iPhone in some form (it was on a beta once), but not a deal breaker of course.
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 20:21:31 GMT -8
Let us know how it goes Rez!
How was the trip overall? And how's Mrs. Rez?
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 3, 2013 20:26:34 GMT -8
NO lag on my iPhone 5 nor iPad 4. Your mileage with a different model may vary.... BTW, iOS7 looks great on the iPad. The icons are bigger and the animations are well done and restrained, well short of the annoying flying screens of Windows Mobile. The method to quit apps by flicking the open apps as cards ala WebOS are fun and MUCH better than pressing a small "x" on the icon at the bottom. iOS6 looks decidedly old and stale by comparison. Everyone's going to prefer it. There will be a small learning curve but it's NOT anything like the jump between Windows 7 > Windows 8 (sorry for the offensive analogy). Well, just don't mention Vista.... Stevie, we hardly knew ye.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 20:39:26 GMT -8
Kevin Spacey gave an excellent presentation on new paradigm of how we watch TV and pushing the content providers to relent to market demand for change. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pgCrYU-CdsToday's content creation industry reminds me very much of the early days of movie production, the studios were not allowed (by a cartel of film manufacturers) to acquire enough film to make anything except Serials. This is when the movie capital was in New York. When the studios discovered the weather in Southern California they moved operations (even that was difficult because of unions, guilds and associations). Located on the other side of the known universe, studios started hoarding film in order to produce MOVIES. Once the customer saw start to finish movies the die was cast, and the cartel's hold over the industry was broken. Today's content industry is just as short sighted as the film manufacturer's cartel. They want to profit from every type of media they can, on their schedule. The internet, and independent studios will ultimately break that model into a kazillion pieces, and when it starts it will happen very fast.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 20:47:49 GMT -8
The method to quit apps by flicking the open apps as cards ala WebOS are fun and MUCH better than pressing a small "x" on the icon at the bottom. When the 'Pre' came out I took a look at it. Frankly I was impressed. Had Palm been able to get the 'Pre' to market, with enough capital to promote it, mobile might have been a two horse race between iOS and WebOS. HP was stupid to let WebOS die.
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 21:04:27 GMT -8
webOS might still be around, but I think Android would've crowded it out, big time.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 3, 2013 21:10:12 GMT -8
Horace asks the true question in Microsoft and Nokia....who is buying who? www.asymco.com/
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 21:39:36 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Sept 3, 2013 21:44:58 GMT -8
Oh yes, I'm going there. Yep, me of all people. So now you know it's time to panic sell. ;D C'mon Tuesday! NEVER AGAIN.
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