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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 8, 2013 7:13:04 GMT -8
Explain your golden ratio. It was meant as humor. I got it and laughed out loud. We can hope, Rickag!
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 8, 2013 7:23:29 GMT -8
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Post by rickag on Sept 8, 2013 7:54:56 GMT -8
PED seems to be baiting his audience somewhat. While what he says rings true I have come to expect him to rebute WS more. And yes the comments provided the criticisms of WS.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 8:10:56 GMT -8
PED seems to be baiting his audience somewhat. While what he says rings true I have come to expect him to rebute WS more. And yes the comments provided the criticisms of WS. One wonders how he compiled the three WS concerns -- are these his own perceptions of those concerns or the top three voiced among WS participants he has corresponded with over the past year. WS is about making money, however they can do it. WS no doubt has some concerns but not to the degree reflected by the stock price. The options market has made them a ton of money, money they've managed to keep by staying out of the stock, barring catalysts forcing them to jump back into it (including sales and profits). WS will jump back in, the question is when. I predict a slow and steady climb as it becomes obvious the Dec. quarter will put the shine on Apple again. That doesn't preclude a jump of $50 to $100 points, but beyond that I think patience is needed.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 8, 2013 8:22:58 GMT -8
Q1. Is looking like minimum $15.30
What is exciting is fiscal Q2. With the full line of new products filling the channels in Asia well before the Lunar New Year, new carriers, new stores.....that quarter holds out hope of a spectacular YOY beat.
April 2014 options are beginning to interest me. Bought some 530/580 a few weeks ago
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 9:26:53 GMT -8
NFC. PED reverting to his provocateur ways?
Yes, tapping a HugePhone on a payment terminal is awesomely convenient. I don't have to take a credit card with me!
(And for those situations they ask for ID?)
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 9:30:01 GMT -8
Mercel, surely you don't mean steady for the next 1-4 weeks, maybe even through October (earnings + CC). Just me and I'm absolutely no expert but this looks like a potentially very choppy/volatile time for AAPL. Lucky there's Icahn as a sentiment/price support backstop
I wonder if Apple will have the iPad event before earnings. Knowing them and the "quiet period", maybe not? Even though that quiet period isn't SEC fiat, IIRC.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 9:37:23 GMT -8
Mercel, surely you don't mean steady for the next 1-4 weeks, maybe even through October (earnings + CC). Just me and I'm absolutely no expert but this looks like a potentially very choppy/volatile time for AAPL. Lucky there's Icahn as a sentiment/price support backstop I wonder if Apple will have the iPad event before earnings. Knowing them and the "quiet period", maybe not? Even though that quiet period isn't SEC fiat, IIRC. Yeah, steady through end of year as the December quarter becomes visible. Edit: Can't paste a link that works, oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 9:39:23 GMT -8
Explain your golden ratio. It was meant as humor. OK. I'm laughing now. (Still don't get the humor)
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 9:44:44 GMT -8
So you agree that the next 6-8 weeks could be volatile? Just checking.
I'm inclined to agree that Nov-Dec should be calmer but with ALL of the refreshes save MacBook Air going on at that time, who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 9:45:56 GMT -8
So you agree that the next 6-8 weeks could be volatile? Just checking. I'm inclined to agree that Nov-Dec should be calmer but with ALL of the refreshes save MacBook Air going on at that time, who knows. I'm not going to help you draw your squiggly lines Mav ;D
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 8, 2013 10:04:48 GMT -8
So you agree that the next 6-8 weeks could be volatile? Just checking. I'm inclined to agree that Nov-Dec should be calmer but with ALL of the refreshes save MacBook Air going on at that time, who knows. I'm not going to help you draw your squiggly lines Mav ;D ;D Just look at the realization by Wall Street of revenues....it will come in stages between next Friday and December. And the quiet period has no impact on product announcements, just financial disclosures. I expect the iPad refresh around October 15
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Post by bud777 on Sept 8, 2013 10:09:12 GMT -8
OK. I'm laughing now. (Still don't get the humor) Gregg, You may have to embrace your inner nerd to really get this. it is like that great cheer: Secant, Tangent, Cosine, Sine 3.14159
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 10:09:30 GMT -8
Seriously, we have these catalysts to move the stock price: 1. Tuesday's event 2. First weekend sales 3. Launch date and lines 4. iPad (in Oct.) 5. FQ4 earnings and guidance (in October) 6. New Apple bond offering? 7. Carl Icahn 8. Analyst price target upgrades
Exposure to macro events (Fed and Syria) will move the broader market but always hard to predict.
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 10:09:51 GMT -8
Heh.
Not that I have the expertise to convince you or anyone of anything, Mercel, but since Apple is having the most active third, er, third of the entire year, I don't expect the stock to be too steady UNLESS there's a "failing bear" scenario where bulls eke out net wins week after week. Even that seems to point to volatility though. And that's before geo/politics and the economy.
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 10:12:16 GMT -8
Also, even you might be surprised by the striking relative simplicity of the post-388 price action. It's a textbook bull flag. Upside, consolidation, and heaven help bears if it triggers.
I figure the most ardent technical skeptic/Bull+ is OK with that. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 10:14:26 GMT -8
Also, even you might be surprised by the striking relative simplicity of the post-388 price action. It's a textbook bull flag. Upside, consolidation, and heaven help bears if it triggers. I figure the most ardent technical skeptic/Bull+ is OK with that. ;D The simplicity of buying AAPL at $388 was clear, yes.
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 10:16:29 GMT -8
You traded 385 like a pro then? Good for you. Me, I need to make up for a lack of innate trading talent, and that entails putting together an instrument/basic drawing panel of the markets.
Of course fundamentals is still very much my thing. Just need initial sales numbers and pricing to get a clearer WAG. ;D
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Post by Luckychoices on Sept 8, 2013 10:18:44 GMT -8
OK. I'm laughing now. (Still don't get the humor) Gregg, You may have to embrace your inner nerd to really get this. it is like that great cheer: Secant, Tangent, Cosine, Sine 3.14159 Love it, bud!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 10:24:47 GMT -8
You traded 385 like a pro then? Good for you. Me, I need to make up for a lack of innate trading talent, and that entails putting together an instrument/basic drawing panel of the markets. Of course fundamentals is still very much my thing. Just need initial sales numbers and pricing to get a clearer WAG. ;D I could type 2 pages of things coming out (or expected) from Apple. I mean, iOS7 is huge and Mavericks (can't wait) define the user experience and it's going to be fun seeing Apple lap the competition with products, features when they become better understood and known.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 10:31:03 GMT -8
Here's a teaser: I'm learning that Mavericks is engineered to make it easier to run Winblows apps natively. Imagine that, OSX running Windows applications without the Microsoft OS. WWDC kept this quiet for the most part, and I suspect they did so for an all out frontal assault on enterprise when Mavericks gets closer to launch (predicted in October).
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Sept 8, 2013 10:42:13 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 10:44:53 GMT -8
Mercel, that would be huge news. And AFAIK unreported - zero chatter.
Are you messing with us here?
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 10:46:05 GMT -8
I can't wait for Mavericks either. Why the heck is smooth scrolling beyond the capability of some apps on Mountain Lion? (cough Mail cough)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 10:48:47 GMT -8
Mercel, that would be huge news. And AFAIK unreported - zero chatter. Are you messing with us here? Nope. It's real. My understanding is that the upside is more with newer applications and probably less with legacy applications.
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 10:50:23 GMT -8
Dude, start blog. Post single rumor.
Be vindicated.
Instacred.
It's out there if you want it, Merckel! (Hint hint, if you'd rather not blog.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 10:53:51 GMT -8
If there's an illuminated ring to measure progress of the scan, then a black front will enable one to see it better. Interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 10:58:25 GMT -8
Dude, start blog. Post single rumor. Be vindicated. Instacred. It's out there if you want it, Merckel! (Hint hint, if you'd rather not blog.) Nah, it wouldn't make enough coin. Maybe if and when I retire. There's a big opportunity now to scorecard the numbnuts out there who pose as analysts. Chris Caso of Susquehanna needs to spend time in the woodshed for his dim-witted prediction in July there would be no lines. Hell, they're starting earlier than last year!
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 11:06:20 GMT -8
Lines are terrible proxies for tons of points of sale and ease of ship-to-door ordering. Apple ain't getting 1000 Apple Stores anytime soon and most are too practical to stand in line on launch day. The big carriers are only too happy to book entire planes for Apple round Sep. 20 and beyond.
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Post by Mav on Sept 8, 2013 11:07:58 GMT -8
Mercel, no one said anything about continued commitment. You'll be remembered if you're right. I'll host your prediction if you like, but then again I'm not sure you've ever visited. Mostly technicals on the blog. ;D
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