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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 18:36:13 GMT -8
Hello once again $500 billion market cap, nice to see you again.
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Post by phoebear611 on Nov 29, 2013 19:11:20 GMT -8
Dare I say how good it feels to have a few great days like this?!
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 30, 2013 6:06:57 GMT -8
Lstream asked a question over in the daily thread about why Apple's new head of Retail would have anything to do with new product category launches....I think it has to do with the iwatch( or whatever wearables get rolled out). Making anything geeky trendy and desirable takes real marketing and fashion talent....she has it.
They can't do it until she is around to help brand it......right now an Iwatch would seem to have Sheldon Cooper as the target market....they want Katy Perry and her millions of minions....
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 30, 2013 6:10:34 GMT -8
Another Golden Cross is on tap..... The consensus Apple price target is around 555. The Analysts have to take another look. Black Friday buzz, the smooth rollout of all products and current price action "allows" them to now have a reason to raise those targets. Look for Monday morning upgrades..... I love it when a Plan comes together........
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Post by appledoc on Nov 30, 2013 6:16:03 GMT -8
I'm going to toot my own horn here seeing as we hit my 550+ target before the end of the year.
Haven't had a losing trade since April. AAPL is back.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 30, 2013 6:21:40 GMT -8
I'm going to toot my own horn here seeing as we hit my 550+ target before the end of the year. Haven't had a losing trade since April. AAPL is back. I remember your bullishness. Didn't you also call for a new 52 week high before end of year? So......585ish?
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Post by rob_london on Nov 30, 2013 6:28:57 GMT -8
The Apple online store in the UK is now quoting a delivery time of 2-3 weeks for the iPad Air Wi-Fi model.
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Post by ericinaustin on Nov 30, 2013 6:56:29 GMT -8
Lstream asked a question over in the daily thread about why Apple's new head of Retail would have anything to do with new product category launches....I think it has to do with the iwatch( or whatever wearables get rolled out). Making anything geeky trendy and desirable takes real marketing and fashion talent....she has it. They can't do it until she is around to help brand it......right now an Iwatch would seem to have Sheldon Cooper as the target market....they want Katy Perry and her millions of minions.... I think that's part of it but likely it's mainly about the overall retail look and feel for china. I suspect there will be a major acceleration of retail buildout in china and changing the stores to be bigger and to handle more and different product is the plan.
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Post by sponge on Nov 30, 2013 7:35:48 GMT -8
Lstream asked a question over in the daily thread about why Apple's new head of Retail would have anything to do with new product category launches....I think it has to do with the iwatch( or whatever wearables get rolled out). Making anything geeky trendy and desirable takes real marketing and fashion talent....she has it. They can't do it until she is around to help brand it......right now an Iwatch would seem to have Sheldon Cooper as the target market....they want Katy Perry and her millions of minions.... I think that's part of it but likely it's mainly about the overall retail look and feel for china. I suspect there will be a major acceleration of retail buildout in china and changing the stores to be bigger and to handle more and different product is the plan. I agree. Made a similar point in the daily threat and then saw Reds post here. Great minds think alike. Eric I agree with your views regarding a bullish view for Apple in the next several years. 2012-2013 were transition years. Like 2005-2006. I see a repeat of more transition 2016-2017.
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Post by artman1033 on Nov 30, 2013 8:12:41 GMT -8
....... Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus began unveiling specific options for overhauling the tax code Tuesday, arguing that the issue may yet have “political potency.”........ ......Baucus opened with a topic specifically intended to spur interest: a revision of the tax laws governing foreign earnings. Both parties are keen to lower the 35 percent corporate tax rate and encourage companies to bring home roughly $2 trillion in profits now held overseas to avoid U.S. taxation. To accomplish those goals, Baucus proposes lowering the corporate rate in the United States to something under 30 percent — he did not specify a precise target. He would also end the practice of deferral, which lets companies avoid U.S. taxes on foreign-earned profits until they bring the money home. Instead, a 20 percent tax, payable over eight years, would be immediately imposed on accumulated profits that have benefited from deferral. That would encourage companies to bring the money home and pursue domestic investments, aides said, while producing a one-time windfall of more than $200 billion for the Treasury. Future earnings derived from sales to the U.S. market would be taxed at the new, lower rate no matter where they were realized. www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/baucus-proceeds-alone-on-tax-reform-starting-with-plans-to-overhaul-international-code/2013/11/19/0ed055c4-509f-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.htmlhmmmmm.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 8:52:11 GMT -8
....... Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus began unveiling specific options for overhauling the tax code Tuesday, arguing that the issue may yet have “political potency.”........ ......Baucus opened with a topic specifically intended to spur interest: a revision of the tax laws governing foreign earnings. Both parties are keen to lower the 35 percent corporate tax rate and encourage companies to bring home roughly $2 trillion in profits now held overseas to avoid U.S. taxation. To accomplish those goals, Baucus proposes lowering the corporate rate in the United States to something under 30 percent — he did not specify a precise target. He would also end the practice of deferral, which lets companies avoid U.S. taxes on foreign-earned profits until they bring the money home. Instead, a 20 percent tax, payable over eight years, would be immediately imposed on accumulated profits that have benefited from deferral. That would encourage companies to bring the money home and pursue domestic investments, aides said, while producing a one-time windfall of more than $200 billion for the Treasury. Future earnings derived from sales to the U.S. market would be taxed at the new, lower rate no matter where they were realized. www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/baucus-proceeds-alone-on-tax-reform-starting-with-plans-to-overhaul-international-code/2013/11/19/0ed055c4-509f-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.htmlhmmmmm. Or you could scrap our entire tax code and replace it with a system that taxes consumption, not production. Doing this makes US produced goods much cheaper (25%?) by eliminating all imbedded tax based COGS. Additionally, workers keep all they make, whether from employment, savings or investment. There would be no need for special retirement accounts, that are penalized when used in an emergency (a definite problem for lower economic classes). Foreign produced goods are then taxed in the US as never before (national sales tax) eliminating the lower tax rate benefit from the originating country, and any labor benefits. Foreign manufacturers (that sell in the US) would flock to the US to produce their goods. The flow of US$s via trade imbalance would slow to a near stop, benefitting the unemployed here, vs the unemployed overseas. Its time the US stop subsidizing other Countries employment with our antiquated, pre-world economy, taxation system. Tax consumption, not production. www.fairtax.org
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 30, 2013 9:00:53 GMT -8
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Post by rickag on Nov 30, 2013 9:03:58 GMT -8
....... Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus began unveiling specific options for overhauling the tax code Tuesday, arguing that the issue may yet have “political potency.”........ ......Baucus opened with a topic specifically intended to spur interest: a revision of the tax laws governing foreign earnings. Both parties are keen to lower the 35 percent corporate tax rate and encourage companies to bring home roughly $2 trillion in profits now held overseas to avoid U.S. taxation. To accomplish those goals, Baucus proposes lowering the corporate rate in the United States to something under 30 percent — he did not specify a precise target. He would also end the practice of deferral, which lets companies avoid U.S. taxes on foreign-earned profits until they bring the money home. Instead, a 20 percent tax, payable over eight years, would be immediately imposed on accumulated profits that have benefited from deferral. That would encourage companies to bring the money home and pursue domestic investments, aides said, while producing a one-time windfall of more than $200 billion for the Treasury. Future earnings derived from sales to the U.S. market would be taxed at the new, lower rate no matter where they were realized. www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/baucus-proceeds-alone-on-tax-reform-starting-with-plans-to-overhaul-international-code/2013/11/19/0ed055c4-509f-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.htmlhmmmmm. Thanks for the link. One quote caught my eye:
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Post by jdrizzo89 on Nov 30, 2013 12:02:57 GMT -8
Only potential problem that fiscal liberals have with fair tax is it shifts the tax burden to the middle-lower class unless some potential voucher program is put into place..that and the damage it would do to accounting industry. I wish it's something that was possible one day because for business/investing/saving it would be amazing..
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Post by longsince98 on Nov 30, 2013 13:29:01 GMT -8
If you're reply is in relation to Greg's post, could you post any links supporting your position? I've long had curiosity about this topic, as I've always felt tax on consumption would be exceptionally fair (even speaking as a big consumer), and a sort of silver bullet to many economic problems. Thanks
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Post by longsince98 on Nov 30, 2013 13:32:12 GMT -8
Does anyone know of any way to see where one ranks in percentile of ownership in a given stock? I've long owned lots of AAPL, and always have been curious re how "lots" that lot is. Thanks
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Post by rickag on Nov 30, 2013 14:02:02 GMT -8
At the Apple Store in Ft. Worth getting my new iPhone 5S. 32 gig slate gray.
Woohoo
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Post by JDSoCal on Nov 30, 2013 14:22:59 GMT -8
As much as I would love the US to embrace libertarian, pro-growth ideals, it ain't gonna happen for various reasons. There are many strong impediments preventing a switch from our borrow-and-consume Ponzi GDP to a produce-and-save economy. For one, there is a powerful, persuasive faction in this country which would not be empowered for long by prosperous, independent citizens who do not need government to provide for them.
And the last thing you want is a VAT in addition to the income tax. So be careful what you wish for.
But a foreign profits repatriation holiday of some sort is possible. Might have to wait for Jan 2015 though. #NuclearOption
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 30, 2013 14:32:27 GMT -8
As much as I would love the US to embrace libertarian, pro-growth ideals, it ain't gonna happen for various reasons. There are many strong impediments preventing a switch from our borrow-and-consume Ponzi GDP to a produce-and-save economy. For one, there is a powerful, persuasive faction in this country which would not be empowered for long by prosperous, independent citizens who do not need government to provide for them. And the last thing you want is a VAT in addition to the income tax. So be careful what you wish for. But a foreign profits repatriation holiday of some sort is possible. Might have to wait for Jan 2015 though. #NuclearOption Repatriation of offshore cash is an idea that both parties can get their heads around if it is "sold" properly. The trade off of a "tax break" (forget the rationale of any such term being used...since if they never bring the dollars home, no tax to get a break from....but i digress) to investment on domestic shores, creating infrastructure, jobs, future domestic tax revenues. Apple has been doing some nice things on this front in recent months. The MacPro assembly and the new glass plant are sweet examples of what could be done with billions returning to this shore.. the hook is baited....
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 30, 2013 14:35:15 GMT -8
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Post by phoebear611 on Nov 30, 2013 15:09:01 GMT -8
If this was posted already - then my apologies - but I thought it was great. Seems that according to IBM Digital Analytics Benchmark, over 82 percent of the total number of online mobile sales during Black Friday came through Apple’s iOS. Coming a distant #2 was Google/Android with 17.5%. I think these numbers are pretty amazing. Here's the article: wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/apples-ios-dominates-black-friday-mobile-sales.html/?ref=YF
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Post by JDSoCal on Nov 30, 2013 15:17:49 GMT -8
But a foreign profits repatriation holiday of some sort is possible. Might have to wait for Jan 2015 though. #NuclearOption Repatriation of offshore cash is an idea that both parties can get their heads around if it is "sold" properly. The trade off of a "tax break" (forget the rationale of any such term being used...since if they never bring the dollars home, no tax to get a break from....but i digress) to investment on domestic shores, creating infrastructure, jobs, future domestic tax revenues. The problem is, many Dems claim last time there was repatriation holiday, there were no GDP or employment benefits. But that is as unprovable as any Keynesian stimulus is, unless you have a parallel universe to see what happens with and without the "stimulus." Of course, unlike the neo-Keynesian pols, who are only concerned about their reelection quarters, and thus immediate GDP benefits, businesses and investors typically have a much longer horizon for benefits and wealth creation than Right Now. I have a friend that just sold his business after 15 years. He never took a dime out of it, and never took a vacation until recently, when he sold it. For 15 years. He just put all the money back into the business. Which he started with low-5 figures and sold for 8 figures. For many in the "Keynesian economics" crowd (quotes used because Keynes would be opposed to a lot of what is called "Keynesian" today), this was wasteful, just a rich guy putting money back into his business, instead of spend spend spending on the GDP right now, forget tomorrow! This election cycle is all that matters! The government knows better than you what should be done with your ill-gotten gains! A constant theme of capitalism is those anti-capitalists and perma-public sectorites telling the wealth creators in the private sector what they are doing is all wrong; and oh, BTW, give us some of it.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 30, 2013 15:27:51 GMT -8
Now, you don't teach at a public university, right....or a private school with government support in any way? I worry that you might not be livin' the dream.... ;D
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Post by JDSoCal on Nov 30, 2013 15:37:11 GMT -8
Now, you don't teach at a public university, right....or a private school with government support in any way? I worry that you might not be livin' the dream.... ;D Kirk was the best captain.
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Post by cbingle on Nov 30, 2013 17:26:43 GMT -8
As reported by InfoScout on Yahoo Finance news....40% of IPads sold over Black Friday were to Android phone users. Not sure exactly how they know that, but interesting.
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Post by Ted on Nov 30, 2013 17:54:37 GMT -8
As reported by InfoScout on Yahoo Finance news....40% of IPads sold over Black Friday were to Android phone users. Not sure exactly how they know that, but interesting. Goodbye, Android. It was great knowing you. Could it be we've seen peak Android and peak Samsung already? And I don't mean just in the US of A. It's starting to look like 2014 could be a big year for iOS.
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Post by artman1033 on Nov 30, 2013 18:42:41 GMT -8
As reported by InfoScout on Yahoo Finance news....40% of IPads sold over Black Friday were to Android phone users. Not sure exactly how they know that, but interesting.here! techcrunch.com/2013/10/21/infoscout/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 19:02:02 GMT -8
hmmm…. I wonder if Apple will make another buyout attempt of Dropbox? (TC's link is an audio file hosted on dropbox) tim_cook: I'll never tire of listening to this! Could not be more proud of the Tigers! t.co/G0ojg9Nyvm
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Post by Zeke on Nov 30, 2013 22:29:54 GMT -8
I bought my wife an iPad Air 128GB yesterday. Delivery on December 18th.
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Post by rob_london on Dec 1, 2013 2:27:17 GMT -8
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