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Post by phoebear611 on Feb 26, 2014 16:18:00 GMT -8
If Tim Cook happened to be reading this board, I think he would say without a trace of emotion: "Why are you still here?" Because we know the potential and are hoping that we are wrong this time....because hope springs eternal.
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Post by socal Film Composer on Feb 26, 2014 16:43:05 GMT -8
I posted this some time ago: Kindly keep homophobic comments to yourself. I will delete them. And if they continue, I will delete you. +1 well said!
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Post by Luckychoices on Feb 26, 2014 16:48:31 GMT -8
I think we all would be. There should be a riot at the shareholders meeting Friday. What are they going to say? Apple is publicly buying back tons of stock at low levels and has promised a new product category this year. To me, this is a great opportunity to buy and hold. I agree. Last week my 41 year-old son bought 195 shares of Apple at $536, investing some of the bonus money he’d received from the company he was now leaving. A day or two later, he sent me this message: "Sigh - another 5 bucks down…guess I should have waited until Friday after all" This was my reply: "It's f#$ing 4 or 5 shares. Let it go. It could have gone UP $15 and then you’d be kicking yourself for not buying. Don’t be Kevin ##### (not that there’s anything wrong with that). He could have been buying AAPL 15 years ago, when we were, instead of constantly trying to make short term profits. You're INVESTING for the FUTURE. Big difference. Ever consider how many times we have bought AAPL over years, only to see it drop $10 to $20 (or much, much more) shortly thereafter? Short answer: A lot!" Well, of course, now, had he waited, he could have bought 7 more shares than he did. The point I was trying to make with him is to not be impatient. I still believe in the strength of the company and want Tim Cook to operate with regards to what’s best for Apple, long term, not what’s best for our AAPL shares, short term. I'm still convinced that long term Apple company success will result in long term AAPL stock "success". Am I envious of the gains made over the last year or two by holders of GOOG, TSLA, AMZN and NFLX? Absolutely. Am I confident enough in their LONG TERM success to move my money from AAPL to reinvest in one or all of them? No. And that's why I continue to collect the quarterly dividends while looking forward to future good products and good news coming from Apple. BTW, I've always wondered why some members of this forum are so frustrated and impatient for AAPL to make them big bucks, ASAP. I've attached the chart that we put together at the old board back in February of 2012 (and I'd be surprised if the age range is much different for our present forum). I'm in the second category from the right (70-79) while my son and many on this forum are in the fourth from the left (40-49). My question is, what's the rush? If I'd decided that Apple had lost the ability to succeed in the marketplace, as it did previously, I would move my money and invest in a different or many different stocks. What is the impetus that makes relatively short term options so much more appealing than a long term investment? I don't get it.
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Post by mark on Feb 26, 2014 16:56:09 GMT -8
What are they going to say? Apple is publicly buying back tons of stock at low levels and has promised a new product category this year. To me, this is a great opportunity to buy and hold. Apple stock has tanked for more than a year while the rest of the market has hit all-time highs because Tim Cook has over-promised and under-delivered. What exactly did he promise but not deliver on? What I heard was "new categories late this year [2013] or next year [2014]" and I'm waiting for the new categories to come!
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Post by mikez on Feb 26, 2014 17:16:49 GMT -8
Apple stock has tanked for more than a year while the rest of the market has hit all-time highs because Tim Cook has over-promised and under-delivered. What exactly did he promise but not deliver on? What I heard was "new categories late this year [2013] or next year [2014]" and I'm waiting for the new categories to come! And the most recent statement, something like "Details matter, it’s worth waiting to get it right." is more evidence that something new is coming soon, later this year.
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Post by jmolloy on Feb 26, 2014 17:39:12 GMT -8
I posted this some time ago: Kindly keep homophobic comments to yourself. I will delete them. And if they continue, I will delete you. Thank you, this place was like a mosh pit for the last couple of days...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 18:19:39 GMT -8
If you ask me, the forum was interesting the last few days...there were very few posts that were offensive. Some i would disagree, sure, but thats what is interesting about the internet. I never found anything offensive...off topic, sure.
I get more tired of seeing "apple is down again" or "stupid friday call wall" or "but amazon doesnt make money" posts by the hundreds every month.
Really, there are probably 10 days/year that apple has any news worth discussing...4 days of earnings and a few product release days. Other than that, its mostly cheering the stock, hating the stock or telling the most successful company ever how to run its business
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 18:43:37 GMT -8
An attractive mock up for iPhone 6, EXCEPT, I hope Apple stops trading thinness for battery life and launches earlier this year. Plug in the A8, add a refined Touch ID, bigger battery and display and that's it. Apple doesn't have to launch with iOS8 -- get the hardware out when its ready, with or without the new iOS.
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Post by Mav on Feb 26, 2014 19:15:30 GMT -8
Problem is, bigger display will impact any battery life improvement.
OTOH, when you're not REALLY hammering on it with Infinity Blade III or whatever, 5S battery life really is pretty OK.
I wonder how Apple will handle the one-handedness issue. It IS a genuinely useful iPhone feature even as I'd like a bigger and higher-res display.
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Post by JDSoCal on Feb 26, 2014 19:25:05 GMT -8
Frankly, I have lost confidence in Tim Cook, and I might be bailing on the stock, as taxes allow. If we were above 700 I'd already be out and not posting here anymore. If Tim Cook happened to be reading this board, I think he would say without a trace of emotion: "Why are you still here?" If so, that should really, really concern Apple stockholders. I first started using Apple computers when a Macintosh was just a fruit. That's the early 1980's. When Tim Cook was at Auburn. I was a Mac guy from 1987-on. I had a Mac IIfx that cost more than some people's cars. I've been a die-hard Apple evangelist longer than some people here have been alive. I can count about 20 friends and family that are OSX/iOS users because of my advocacy. I've been long Apple common for 21 years this spring. And if Apple were to lose me as a booster, and the CEO didn't give a shit, that would be a red flag in any company I were investing in. YMMV. So take your snark and stick it in your floppy drive.
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Post by tuffett on Feb 26, 2014 19:41:31 GMT -8
Meh, wouldn't concern me. I invest in Apple because of great products and rock solid financials, not the presence or absence of evangelical boosters.
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Post by geraci on Feb 26, 2014 19:50:02 GMT -8
So take your snark and stick it in your floppy drive. Are you talking to me or Tim Cook? If you are talking to Tim Cook, then O.K. If you are talking to me, I'll try it, but I don't think my snark will fit in there. But Phoebear has it right-- she tried to answer an honest question: "Why are you still here?" As for me, I am a long term investor, am probably over-invested in Apple shares, but I haven't been able to make myself move the money elsewhere. I'm beginning to believe the big, low hanging AAPL gains have already been had, but that's OK. I am at a point in my life where "normal" market returns (including dividends) may be all that I need. At this point, diversification would serve to reduce unique risk and I would be trading that for market risk. I know it would make my financial advisor sleep better at night. But then that thought is always lingering... what will Apple do next! And that keeps me here.
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Post by geraci on Feb 26, 2014 20:30:10 GMT -8
I wonder if any Mac experts can help me with this: I was reading a post on Medium and saw a photo of Steve Jobs in his home office. On his desk is a 30" Cinema Display with the old Firewire iSight Camera on top. But behind the display is a small computer(?) that looks like a Mac Pro, but much smaller. There is a sheaf of 8.5x11 paper sitting next to the device, and just a guess, but the case looks to be about 4" wide and 13" tall-- much smaller than a Mac Pro. It doesn't seem to be running the display (there aren't any cables attached). What is it? A prototype? I'll try to attach an image. The original image can be found here: www.spd.org/images/blog/Time%20Jobs%204.jpgNot that it does us any good-- that form factor seems to have been superceded by the new Mac Pro. Oh, and it looks like the photo was taken by Diana Walker in 2004.
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Post by BillH on Feb 26, 2014 20:55:47 GMT -8
As for me, I am a long term investor, am probably over-invested in Apple shares, but I haven't been able to make myself move the money elsewhere. I'm beginning to believe the big, low hanging AAPL gains have already been had, but that's OK. I am at a point in my life where "normal" market returns (including dividends) may be all that I need. At this point, diversification would serve to reduce unique risk and I would be trading that for market risk. I know it would make my financial advisor sleep better at night. But then that thought is always lingering... what will Apple do next! And that keeps me here. Me too! Me too! I continue to view it as the SAFEST place I can park my money but totally agree that there are better growth opportunities elsewhere.
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Post by JDSoCal on Feb 26, 2014 21:05:19 GMT -8
Meh, wouldn't concern me. I invest in Apple because of great products and rock solid financials, not the presence or absence of evangelical boosters. As always, you miss my point. But good luck with your investment strategy.
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Post by JDSoCal on Feb 26, 2014 21:11:26 GMT -8
Aaaaand what do we have here? Intel's Broadwell delayed until 2015. Moto PPC redux? As I suggested recently, Intel's hitting a performance wall (like AAPL calls in mid-January) may be a reason for Apple to seriously consider designing in-house SoC for Macs. Curious that Samsung wants to get away from Android to control its own destiny, while Apple might be plotting to dump Intel for the same reason...
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Post by williamjames on Feb 26, 2014 21:35:40 GMT -8
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Post by geraci on Feb 26, 2014 22:25:48 GMT -8
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