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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 8:20:32 GMT -8
Jobs (not Steve) up 114k. Slightly better than 110k predicted. But the decline in the number on unemployment dropped significantly. What happened to thos no longer on unemployment that exceed the number of newly employed? My guess is that they have fallen off the grid. That's a really sad commentary about the condition of the economy. I can't wait for the election.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 8:25:04 GMT -8
"Right now?!". They have been below National Enquirer standards for years. Thanks for not posting a link. I read all of it. You never know if they give you an ideal. It's useful to know what " they " think. The problem is that most contributors don't think. I'm not even sure they believe what they write. They write to show others (potential employers?) that they can. NOBODY could be so stupid as to really believe the trash posted there.
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Post by roni on Oct 5, 2012 8:26:24 GMT -8
Added to Jan 2015 $800 position.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 5, 2012 8:26:57 GMT -8
Jobs (not Steve) up 114k. Slightly better than 110k predicted. But the decline in the number on unemployment dropped significantly. What happened to thos no longer on unemployment that exceed the number of newly employed? My guess is that they have fallen off the grid. That's a really sad commentary about the condition of the economy. I can't wait for the election. The math does not jive on the number of jobs added and the rate dropping so much. Smells fishy. Kind of like today's action. Market up AAPL getting killed. Makes no sense.
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Post by Mav on Oct 5, 2012 8:39:01 GMT -8
I'm reminded of those Lose Your Lunch(tm) patterns I used to see. Of course, lunchtime isn't over yet in the East Coast, so I'll just keep watching...
EDIT: The battle for SMA-50 (call it 656-657) rages on.
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Post by podboy on Oct 5, 2012 8:45:37 GMT -8
Where/when is the iPad mini run up before announcement?
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Post by appledoc on Oct 5, 2012 8:46:25 GMT -8
I can only tolerate so much of this BS. Especially when I have no cash to play with.
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Post by adamthompson32 on Oct 5, 2012 8:47:37 GMT -8
Where/when is the iPad mini run up before announcement? iPad Mini won't have much of an impact for a while in my opinion. It should add roughly $2.00 in EPS in its first year though. It won't be until everyone sees just how huge the Mini (and overall) iPad market will be before the value of it is reflected in the stock price.
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Post by joel90069 on Oct 5, 2012 9:01:00 GMT -8
Finally learned that when I feel brilliant and arrogant it's time to take something off the table. When I get the feeling of impending doom and fluttering in my stomach, it's time to buy. Added 100 shares at $654.80.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 5, 2012 9:14:47 GMT -8
Finally learned that when I feel brilliant and arrogant it's time to take something off the table. When I get the feeling of impending doom and fluttering in my stomach, it's time to buy. Added 100 shares at $654.80. You mean like this Joel.
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Post by incorrigible on Oct 5, 2012 9:15:39 GMT -8
Based on gut feel alone, that may have been the last gasp of the bears trying to break the 50 day.
I say we go up next week; perhaps by a significant amount.
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Post by The Big Toe on Oct 5, 2012 9:16:54 GMT -8
Where/when is the iPad mini run up before announcement? iPad Mini won't have much of an impact for a while in my opinion. It should add roughly $2.00 in EPS in its first year though. It won't be until everyone sees just how huge the Mini (and overall) iPad market will be before the value of it is reflected in the stock price. If aapl has not been able to roll out the ipod refresh yet, doesn't that give you concern about supplies for ipad mini?
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Post by aapl4kiki on Oct 5, 2012 9:20:11 GMT -8
But the decline in the number on unemployment dropped significantly. What happened to thos no longer on unemployment that exceed the number of newly employed? My guess is that they have fallen off the grid. That's a really sad commentary about the condition of the economy. I can't wait for the election. The math does not jive on the number of jobs added and the rate dropping so much. Smells fishy. Kind of like today's action. Market up AAPL getting killed. Makes no sense. The math makes no sense? Or the price action?
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Post by Mav on Oct 5, 2012 9:20:27 GMT -8
iPod is whatever.
A "mere" $1B or so in quarterly revenue until the holiday season.
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Post by adamthompson32 on Oct 5, 2012 9:21:13 GMT -8
iPad Mini won't have much of an impact for a while in my opinion. It should add roughly $2.00 in EPS in its first year though. It won't be until everyone sees just how huge the Mini (and overall) iPad market will be before the value of it is reflected in the stock price. If aapl has not been able to roll out the ipod refresh yet, doesn't that give you concern about supplies for ipad mini? No.
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 5, 2012 9:29:03 GMT -8
That's a bit harsh, AT. But I'll take your 40% apology on behalf of the gentleman from Louisiana. I am sensitive to people who stutter because my wife is a speech therapist. Stutters have to slow down to get the first word out, otherwise they go into their stutter; that's why he was talking slow. You'll notice that with John Stossel on Fox, because he is a former stutter, who successfully overcame it, but still must make a conscious effort from slipping back. In Stossel's case, he has had a significant amount of professional help, which is why he looks near flawless on TV. I have nothing against stutterers but come on, going on live national TV to talk about anything if you have a stutter is beyond ridiculous (I wanted to use another R word but I didn't). And what does that say about whomever at AAPL Sanity elected to put him on? I'm sure they have other people there that would have been better. Anyhow, it's a lost opportunity but no biggie in the grand scheme of things. Just funny to see those guys fumble so incredibly badly. Stutterers should be treated with proper sensitivity.
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Post by doubledraw on Oct 5, 2012 9:32:40 GMT -8
bought the dip...gamblin a little bit with some OCT 12 700 calls @ $2.00
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Post by bud777 on Oct 5, 2012 9:33:20 GMT -8
It is times like this when I have to back off and remind myself that APPL was at 405 on December 30, 2011. We are up 250 YTD, and we all know that the iPhone 5 alone will carry us much higher. There. I feel better now.
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Post by adamthompson32 on Oct 5, 2012 9:42:15 GMT -8
I have nothing against stutterers but come on, going on live national TV to talk about anything if you have a stutter is beyond ridiculous (I wanted to use another R word but I didn't). And what does that say about whomever at AAPL Sanity elected to put him on? I'm sure they have other people there that would have been better. Anyhow, it's a lost opportunity but no biggie in the grand scheme of things. Just funny to see those guys fumble so incredibly badly. Stutterers should be treated with proper sensitivity. I agree.
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Post by Rupert on Oct 5, 2012 9:49:34 GMT -8
From Jason Schwarz “Here’s a copy of my latest public article: Which Stock to Own? Apple or Google? With both stocks trading near all time highs, the Apple vs. Google debate has become Wall Street’s latest obsession. Which stock has a brighter future? Which company will produce the next hit product? Discovering a sense of conviction within the context of this debate can lead to serious wealth creation if one invests correctly. At EconomicTiming.com we’ve demonstrated what can happen when an investor is in tune with a market leading stock like Apple. That being said, we know there will come a time when Apple’s tenure as leader of the pack will end. Has that moment arrived? Is it time to abandon Apple in favor of Google? Let’s consider the following five elements: 1- Lines. I’m still waiting to see a line for an Android phone. Apple’s ability to initiate global pandemonium is unparalleled. Every Apple store, no matter its geographical location, experienced long lines and shortages for the iPhone 5. The lines and delays will remain one month after launch and might even extend into the holidays. These consumers aren’t a group of crazed kids lined up for the latest Harry Potter movie. Apple lines are filled with successful businesspeople who can’t wait to get their hands on the best consumer product in the world. No competitor can generate consumer demand like Apple. 2- Clicks. I don’t click on online ads. Ever. I don’t know anybody who clicks on online ads. When I watch television, I use Dish’s hopper to skip every commercial I can. According to a recent Ad Age study I’m not alone. Less than 1% of people click on digital ads. We avoid them like the plague. So how did Google earn $2.8 billion last quarter? In their own words it was because of ‘refinements to the company’s Internet search technology that lured more Web surfers to click on revenue-producing ads.‘ Do you want to know what that really means? It means they became more sophisticated at tricking users. By making the ‘close x‘ button even smaller it increases the number of accidental clicks. By placing ads over text it increases the number of accidental clicks. By relaxing ethical standards of the software it can increase the number of fraudulent clicks by greedy websites and competitors looking to drive up the cost for advertisers. I have been suckered into clicking on ads because of their placement more times than I can count. It’s even worse when I’m web browsing on my mobile device. Google has become a master at leveraging the inefficiency of fat finger. 96% of Google’s revenue come from advertising. In other words, Google’s revenue comes from something we all try to avoid while 96% of Apple’s revenue comes from something we’re willing to wait in line for. As Google’s price per click rate drops because of confirmed click fraud, Apple maintains premium pricing power because its products are best on planet. Inside the bowels of Google and Facebook they’re asking themselves how much longer the pay per click honeymoon will last. In a recent report issued by Trademob it was revealed that at least 40% of mobile ad clicks are fraudulent or accidental. It’s no wonder that both Facebook and Google are trying so desperately to expand their business models. The Apple envy is apparent with each and every attempt to launch competing products. 3- Innovation. Jim Dalrymple at LoopInsight has done a great job of putting the Samsung/Apple patent case into proper perspective. Among the multitude of great posts, my favorite is the 31 second clip of Steve Jobs at the iPhone introduction in which he concisely lays the foundation of Apple’s homegrown innovation. Most people have forgotten that a keyboard or stylus were the technologies of choice prior to Apple’s multi-touch. Apple changed the entire industry. Purchasing a Samsung Galaxy and its stolen IP is in essence choosing South Korean copycats over America’s finest. If you want American innovation, buy Apple. Android is a free version of Apple’s innovation that originated during Eric Schmidt’s time as one of Apple’s board of directors. He saw where Apple was about to take the industry and knew that Google would be a victim unless they copied Apple’s game plan. Unfortunately for Google investors, Android is a zero margin product with a singular purpose of generating mobile ad clicks. Being two steps behind and unable to catch up has become Google’s identity. As soon as an alternative ad platform is developed to eliminate the fraud of clicks, Google will be left naked.  4- Mobile. The Apple ecosystem is the gold mine of technology. In a mind blowing report released two weeks ago, Onswipe claims that the iPad accounts for 98.1% of all mobile tablet browsing. Google’s recent stock action is performing as if it was added into the Apple ecosystem, not taken out. Losing the native app for maps and youtube in iOS6 is a major blow to Google’s mobile future. The data that they had access to via Google maps on iPhone’s was invaluable. On September 12th GOOG stock was priced at $680, the day of the iPhone 5 event. Since that time, the stock has risen $88. Such a big run in the aftermath of getting booted from Apple’s ecosystem looks more like a short covering rally than anything else. As apps continue the trend of replacing websites, Google advertising will suffer. I’ll repeat, you’d rather be getting in the Apple ecosystem than getting out. Google’s mobile future is dependent upon Android and fat fingers. Apple’s mobile future is dependent upon the profits of iPhone, iPad, and iPad mini sales. 5-China. I’d rather be experiencing growth in China than be out of China. Another win for Apple. Google has no excuse for not staying in China. The evolution of open news flow will take time and Google should be part of it. Instead, they quit. Lines, clicks, innovation, mobile, and China. Apple beats Google 5-0. The case is closed.”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 9:49:53 GMT -8
Bought some Jan 15 900/1000 Bull Call Spreads for $18.
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 5, 2012 10:08:08 GMT -8
From Jason Schwarz“Here’s a copy of my latest public article: Which Stock to Own? Apple or Google? In other words, Google’s revenue comes from something we all try to avoid while 96% of Apple’s revenue comes from something we’re willing to wait in line for. Quote of the year. I hate the expression, but Schwarz just "gets it." Anyone have a link to this BTW? Always post links, s'il te plait.
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Post by doubledraw on Oct 5, 2012 10:11:07 GMT -8
From Jason Schwarz“Here’s a copy of my latest public article: Which Stock to Own? Apple or Google? In other words, Google’s revenue comes from something we all try to avoid while 96% of Apple’s revenue comes from something we’re willing to wait in line for. Quote of the year. I hate the expression, but Schwarz just "gets it." I agree with the sentiment that people seek out apple products and generally avoid advertising, but disagree that people look to avoid adwords ads. As someone who makes their living in this space, I can tell you that many people seek out the ads and they oftentimes provide a better user experience than the organic results. I believe in the greed of companies, and if they are willing to pay for a click they must believe they are providing some value to the customer searching for that keyword.
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Post by dreamRaj on Oct 5, 2012 10:51:34 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Oct 5, 2012 10:53:26 GMT -8
Good analysis from Schwarz!
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Post by roni on Oct 5, 2012 11:10:44 GMT -8
Spent most of my remaining cash this afternoon
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Post by erictheoracle on Oct 5, 2012 11:17:31 GMT -8
Finally learned that when I feel brilliant and arrogant it's time to take something off the table. When I get the feeling of impending doom and fluttering in my stomach, it's time to buy. Added 100 shares at $654.80. I channel Mr. Market.
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Post by Apple II+ on Oct 5, 2012 11:22:12 GMT -8
.You'll notice that with John Stossel on Fox, because he is a former stutter, who successfully overcame it, but still must make a conscious effort from slipping back. In Stossel's case, he has had a significant amount of professional help, which is why he looks near flawless on TV. Too bad he's a cynical, sarcastic ass. Makes it hard to have any sympathy or respect for him.
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Post by rutgersguy92 on Oct 5, 2012 11:34:20 GMT -8
Finally learned that when I feel brilliant and arrogant it's time to take something off the table. When I get the feeling of impending doom and fluttering in my stomach, it's time to buy. Added 100 shares at $654.80. That's pretty good self-awareness. [Reminds me of Denzel Washington's line to one of his players in "Remember the Titans".] I have the "impending doom and fluttering in my stomach" part down good, except I am usually hiding under my desk and unable to reach the keyboard. I will make note of the "brilliant and arrogant" feeling; I think we had one of those two weeks ago (09-21-12), but it's been downhill ever since.
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Post by fas550 on Oct 5, 2012 11:48:26 GMT -8
For those that do and are having a tough day I am sincerely sorry. For me, I am so glad I don't play weekly's.
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