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Post by chinacat on Oct 31, 2014 15:57:20 GMT -8
Happy Halloween, everyone!
No fear for our favorite fruit company, however. After a sh*tstorm of FUD since earnings, it does seem like the critics are running out of nays to say. Looking forward to lots of AAPL candy between now and Christmas.
The bar is open. Let's celebrate!
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Post by Mav on Oct 31, 2014 16:13:41 GMT -8
108 sounds pretty great
Hey that rhymed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 16:16:06 GMT -8
Next Monday 109 will sound especially fine....
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 31, 2014 17:13:39 GMT -8
110, and we can talk cars again.
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Post by infohunter on Oct 31, 2014 17:40:43 GMT -8
120 and we talk about retirement! ?
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Post by nagrani on Oct 31, 2014 19:04:50 GMT -8
Yep. Good time for apple to cool down a bit.
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Post by Mav on Oct 31, 2014 19:12:31 GMT -8
120 and we talk about retirement! ? And there endeth the rhyme
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Post by artman1033 on Oct 31, 2014 19:55:58 GMT -8
A Circuit Court judge in Virginia has ruled that fingerprints are not protected by the Fifth Amendment, a decision that has clear privacy implications for fingerprint-protected devices like newer iPhones and iPads. According to Judge Steven C. Fucci, while a criminal defendant can't be compelled to hand over a passcode to police officers for the purpose of unlocking a cellular device, law enforcement officials can compel a defendant to give up a fingerprint. The Fifth Amendment states that "no person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself," which protects memorized information like passwords and passcodes, but it does not extend to fingerprints in the eyes of the law, as speculated by Wired last year. Judge Steven C. Frucci ruled this week that giving police a fingerprint is akin to providing a DNA or handwriting sample or an actual key, which the law permits. A pass code, though, requires the defendant to divulge knowledge, which the law protects against, according to Frucci's written opinion. www.macrumors.com/2014/10/31/fingerprints-not-protected-by-fifth-amendment/If I were a lawyer, I would tell my client to use the wrong thumb 4 times in a row.
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Post by michelc on Oct 31, 2014 20:19:06 GMT -8
Better then that. I live up in Canada. So in winter i wear glove, not useful with touchId, so I have register my lower lips to unlock my phone. Work 3 out of 4 times. So no need to register your finger. ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 20:53:40 GMT -8
Pete Najarian says Apple is going to $120 per share. Guy Adami, CNBC's resident clown, looks clownish, again. Not incidentally, the iMac 5K is tremendous! www.cnbc.com/id/102142630
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 1, 2014 7:17:50 GMT -8
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 1, 2014 7:22:39 GMT -8
Pete Najarian says Apple is going to $120 per share. Guy Adami, CNBC's resident clown, looks clownish, again. Not incidentally, the iMac 5K is tremendous! www.cnbc.com/id/102142630Mercel, I wonder if you would mind taking a few minutes next week when the new iMac is fully throttled up and give us a review of it both as a professional device and a fun machine. I know you have owned lots of Apple computers and it would be interesting to follow your observations as you compare this new beauty to earlier machines.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 1, 2014 7:44:20 GMT -8
Horace discusses how to properly think about the apple watch opportunity... www.asymco.com/2014/10/31/measuring-the-apple-watch-opportunity/The market for Apple Watch is not the Swiss (or Chinese) watch market. The market for Apple Watch is the number of wrists in the world. To the extent that those wrists will be covered with Apple hardware will determine whether it is successful or not. Measuring the existing market is a mistake because the existing products are hired for different jobs. Those measurements will yield only an answer to how big that job is. Assessing competitiveness vs. incumbents is a mistake because incumbents have perfected solving the problems of wrist-worn timekeeping devices over a century. Apple’s watch is not a wrist-worn timekeeping device any more than the iPhone is a phone or the iPad is a pad. Segmenting the market by whatever means are convenient today is irrelevant because the segments are currently positioned on the current jobs to be done. It’s no more relevant than classifying the iPhone along the segments defined for phones in 2007.[1] And if you missed it, Jony Ive on designing the apple watch www.marketwatch.com/story/apples-jony-ive-designing-the-watch-was-humbling-2014-10-31?siteid=yhoof2
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Post by Luckychoices on Nov 1, 2014 8:10:12 GMT -8
Thanks for posting the links, Red.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 1, 2014 8:16:43 GMT -8
The idea that we strangle our thinking by limiting a device to being what we have known as a "watch" has to be put aside. what does the word "watch" mean anyway? It doesn't mean timepiece; it means " to look at". To look at what? Something that meets a need or desire.....a phone that is also an "internet communicator".
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Post by Mav on Nov 1, 2014 8:32:37 GMT -8
I'm locked in by catchphrases too, but intangibles don't lend themselves well to "jobs to be done" analysis. What is the job to be done of a birthday party? What is a BMW, or a movie, or jewelry, or a nice hotel, "hired to do"? You can answer the question, but with a lot of intangible terms. Ineffable characteristics are just that. For the Apple Watch, "it's the whole thing". Try making a cute "job to be done" answer out of its "mile-long" feature list. Apple has market territory to stake out and a clearly defined space, but judging its success takes the special "Apple Scale" which so many (including me) have a tough time defining. Not terribly unlike how some people cannot understand how a peddler of mainly $650 and up smartphones can POSSIBLY do this well. Surprising, delighting, making products that enrich, that the creators want to use themselves. Integrated experiences. That equals $200B a year? Of course, yes.
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Post by JDSoCal on Nov 1, 2014 8:51:50 GMT -8
A Circuit Court judge in Virginia has ruled that fingerprints are not protected by the Fifth Amendment, a decision that has clear privacy implications for fingerprint-protected devices like newer iPhones and iPads. Actually, no, a single state court judge's dumb opinion has zero implications outside of that state.
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Post by Mav on Nov 1, 2014 9:00:23 GMT -8
But but Apple
Therefore extrapolate and sensationalize to whatever ridiculous degree desired
All you other smartphone owners without Touch ID can rest easy at night (even now only Samsung is really even trying to put together a credible fingerprint solution)
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Post by JDSoCal on Nov 1, 2014 9:43:49 GMT -8
Horace discusses how to properly think about the apple watch opportunity... www.asymco.com/2014/10/31/measuring-the-apple-watch-opportunity/The market for Apple Watch is not the Swiss (or Chinese) watch market. The market for Apple Watch is the number of wrists in the world. To the extent that those wrists will be covered with Apple hardware will determine whether it is successful or not. Yep, those currently without watches on their wrists are likely more important than those that do have them. Although the latter category, especially the Rolex types, can and do afford more than one watch, and will be important for adoption of the gold version. But yeah, not a timepiece. Speaking of which, a pretty dumb article on Forbes about Watch that reads like a Rolex press release. The author makes it sound like only heads of state wear Rolexes. I posited this question earlier: How many watches does Rolex make a day? 20? 200? 2000? The answer is 2000. And they are but one brand. What really strikes me about Watch is its endless customization options. No two will look alike, a radical departure from the Jobsian doctrine of I know what's best for you, so no, you shall not personalize my beautiful, already perfect Apple devices. By coming out of the pocket onto the wrist, options must change:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 10:07:04 GMT -8
Pete Najarian says Apple is going to $120 per share. Guy Adami, CNBC's resident clown, looks clownish, again. Not incidentally, the iMac 5K is tremendous! www.cnbc.com/id/102142630Mercel, I wonder if you would mind taking a few minutes next week when the new iMac is fully throttled up and give us a review of it both as a professional device and a fun machine. I know you have owned lots of Apple computers and it would be interesting to follow your observations as you compare this new beauty to earlier machines. Sure, Red, if you're willing to part with a Shatner autograph.... This is going to replace my mac mini server (2013), so I'm going to run it for a few days before I migrate machines. I currently have a 30" Cinema Display that has a "personality," prompting this upgrade. I have a iMac (2011?) at home that runs flawlessly and see no reason to change that out. For business, it's intriguing to have 10 separate full page views of Excel on a 27" 5k screen. By comparison, my 30" will do 4 full pages and 4 one-half pages. As I'll be migrating a Parallels/Windows 7 disk image over, I'll have to endure Microsoft's excruciating license transfer b.s (along with Office). Migration Assistant should do the rest with a minimum of fuss. The machine should scream, built with the bigger chips (including graphics), 16GB RAM and a 500GB SSD. As it was, my mac mini impressed tech support whenever they shared a screen going through a reboot. These guys typically observe PCs in action, so when I tell them it's a mac mini on Parallels, they're impressed; The iMac 5k is the Ferrari of computers...
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Post by Luckychoices on Nov 1, 2014 12:15:33 GMT -8
Samsung Leads Global Smartphone Sales by Douglas A. McIntyre 247wallst.com/telecom-wireless/2014/10/30/samsung-leads-global-smartphone-sales/I had to laugh when I read the lead sentence of this column on Thursday the 30th. == Despite a 60% drop in profits and an eroding global market share, Samsung was able to hold onto its place as the number one mobile phone company in the world during the third quarter. The distance of the Samsung lead is so great that it might take years for another manufacturer to catch it. == I had to wonder, will this other manufacturer be trying to overtake Samsung's 60% drop in profits or it's eroding global market share? Or both? The author went on to suggest Samsung and Apple BOTH had a disappointing quarter. Granted, Xiaomi had a great quarter (12.8 million increase). But suggesting that Samsung's 18.4 million decrease was about the same as Apple's 5.5 million increase in phone shipments is laughable.
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Post by Mav on Nov 1, 2014 12:24:04 GMT -8
Not a particularly legit seeming website
Or author
Also, global iPhone sellthrough growth was 26% - which is just fine.
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Post by jmolloy on Nov 1, 2014 13:16:31 GMT -8
Not a particularly legit seeming website Or author Also, global iPhone sellthrough growth was 26% - which is just fine. It's Douglas McIntyre. He has form. I think he got upset when Apple outgrew Microsoft. Large chip small shoulders.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 1, 2014 17:25:24 GMT -8
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Post by nagrani on Nov 1, 2014 17:29:55 GMT -8
Or a better personal tv / video game console
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Nov 1, 2014 17:32:17 GMT -8
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Post by icam on Nov 2, 2014 5:46:20 GMT -8
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Post by rezonate on Nov 2, 2014 9:44:39 GMT -8
This may have been commented on before, but if I were an Apple hardware engineer (oh, in another life) I would be trying to put the TouchID sensor in either the Watch crown, or under the center of the screen. The crown already has infrared rotation tracking to preserve waterproof integrity, and a chip there would probably be impractical - but very elegant.
Eventually, I want an Belt, with a cellular plan, GPS chip, and week-long battery life. Then I can leave my iPhone at home and just step out with the Watch and a bluetooth earbud for communications. Deconstructing the cell phone - yes, it's coming.
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Post by Mav on Nov 2, 2014 10:32:17 GMT -8
When it's good and ready.
I am fine with iPhone as it is for now. You'll need a quantum leap in battery technology to enable Apple Watch to start down the road of iPhone "replacement".
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Post by JDSoCal on Nov 2, 2014 10:32:45 GMT -8
This may have been commented on before, but if I were an Apple hardware engineer (oh, in another life) I would be trying to put the TouchID sensor in either the Watch crown, or under the center of the screen. The crown already has infrared rotation tracking to preserve waterproof integrity, and a chip there would probably be impractical - but very elegant. Eventually, I want an Belt, with a cellular plan, GPS chip, and week-long battery life. Then I can leave my iPhone at home and just step out with the Watch and a bluetooth earbud for communications. Deconstructing the cell phone - yes, it's coming. What is the story on Apple Watch and Touch ID? I recall it will lock when taken off of the wrist due to sensors underneath, but how does unlocking work? And as someone who is considering upgrading his 4.7" 6 to a Plus, I doubt that a watch will ever have sufficient screen real estate to replace our phones, unless Jony Ive forays into Flava Flav territory.
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