coma
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Post by coma on Jan 9, 2013 19:56:59 GMT -8
Sad but true . . .
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Post by mbeauch on Jan 9, 2013 20:08:10 GMT -8
We already crashed. The market didn't. I would not have imagined AAPL taking a 30% haircut while the market is at five-year highs. Lovey, the market did have a strong correction, it just had a beautiful V recovery and looks very strong going into earnings. We are on our own, the market hates AAPL.
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Post by Mav on Jan 9, 2013 20:58:30 GMT -8
I still say, depends on what you mean by a crash.
Rules of retracements, that's not a crash from a macro perspective, though it is one heck of a haircut/retrace, and yes the "bear market" 20% from ATH something something.
Looking back, I'd say the accelerated uptrend, some very well-placed FUD, and "ill-timed" product transitions causing earnings "irregularities" (which stem from difficulties in 2011) were big factors that all combined to take AAPL down. It's not too hard to do when AAPL is the perpetual Rodney Dangerfield of stocks, and easily influenced by the rumor mill. The shocker is the sustained, semi-recession-market-like assault AAPL has been under. But at least we have a benchmark for the future. *groan*
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Post by appledoc on Jun 6, 2013 19:18:48 GMT -8
Interesting read months and months later.
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Post by Mav on Jun 6, 2013 19:56:15 GMT -8
Since you bumped it, I have another YMMV "lesson":
Trading the market seems more difficult than ever. That learning curve just keeps bending skyward.
Also, basic technicals are critical to at least find one's bearings IMHO.
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 23, 2020 17:28:18 GMT -8
This one isn't AAPL specific, but due to some of the stuff I've been going through with an estate that got passed along, and is very very messy, it is fitting. With AAPL up so much over the decades, many of us will have similar issues to deal with at some time, or know people or relatives that will. www.cnbc.com/advertorial/2020/07/02/business-interrupted-wealth-transition-and-succession-planning.html?utm_campaign=BackfillNativeTouts&utm_source=CNBCTrust and communication! And taxes aren't everything! FWIW, my suggestion to everyone is to communicate what you want, in addition to trusts or the like. And personally, I suggest utilizing the annual gift limits to pass along funds you are lucky enough to no longer need, and donate. Most people aren't at those levels, but if you are lucky enough to be, it helps make sure that your money actually goes to where you want it to. If you are putting things into a trust, make sure they are in it, or at least have the trust set as the beneficiary. And, close up any "issues" you might have. May we all have plenty of years until such things matter, but things happen every day. If you're getting a trust or the like set up, get it to 100%.
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Post by Dave on Jul 24, 2020 3:00:05 GMT -8
This one isn't AAPL specific, but due to some of the stuff I've been going through with an estate that got passed along, and is very very messy, it is fitting. With AAPL up so much over the decades, many of us will have similar issues to deal with at some time, or know people or relatives that will. www.cnbc.com/advertorial/2020/07/02/business-interrupted-wealth-transition-and-succession-planning.html?utm_campaign=BackfillNativeTouts&utm_source=CNBCTrust and communication! And taxes aren't everything! FWIW, my suggestion to everyone is to communicate what you want, in addition to trusts or the like. And personally, I suggest utilizing the annual gift limits to pass along funds you are lucky enough to no longer need, and donate. Most people aren't at those levels, but if you are lucky enough to be, it helps make sure that your money actually goes to where you want it to. If you are putting things into a trust, make sure they are in it, or at least have the trust set as the beneficiary. And, close up any "issues" you might have. May we all have plenty of years until such things matter, but things happen every day. If you're getting a trust or the like set up, get it to 100%. Thank you 4aapl for freely sharing your wisdom. It is very needed and appreciated. Looking back over this thread I see some of the wisdom that has been shared through the many up’s and down’s of the market. The exuberance and the pain that is part of investing and of life that is openly shared among anonymous friends. I like to think that there is a data base somewhere that contains the old AFB’s many years of interactions and lessons. A chronicle of Apples recovery from near bankruptcy and the laying of the foundation for the company that we see today. But I fear that that data has gone into the intergalactic bit bucket never to be viewed again. Such is life.
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