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Post by traitorjoe on Oct 12, 2012 10:02:09 GMT -8
Someone here posted that the iPad event would be Oct 23, because the earnings report was going to be Thursday Oct 25. Usually the report would come out on the Tuesday. Good job to who ever that was! The invites for the event should go out next Tuesday. (I bought a bunch of Jan 600 C) Thanks Nevyn for noticing Made sense when you looked at all their last 16 or so Earns being Tuesdays very 13 weeks. So, speaking of weeks, I think we all need to be careful in what we expect on Guidance for Holiday Qtr, remember that last Holiday Qtr. had an extra week (14) and earnings were $13.87- which normalized to 13 would be about $1 less or $12.90. This will barely be noted by analysts when they comp upcoming guidance to the $13.87 number. That being said - iPad Mini, all new iPods, IPhone5 in way more countries and it looks like a Mac Refresh to top it off !! Should be BLOW OUT when they report in January. I am waiting until Post earnings to go all in, just too scary and unpredictable last few weeks.
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Post by Mav on Oct 12, 2012 10:02:50 GMT -8
Think this puppy is about to head back to 635. Really? Today? How?
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Post by nkmho on Oct 12, 2012 10:03:59 GMT -8
Think this puppy is about to head back to 635. Really? Today? How? By putting on the rally cap?
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Post by jdrizzo89 on Oct 12, 2012 10:11:14 GMT -8
I know the apple "ecosystem" is always referenced, but what does it exactly mean.
For example, yes we have Itunes and yes I have a lot of songs on it. But if i got google music or whatever its called, I could easily get a droid and get those files/songs on the droid.....??
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Oct 12, 2012 10:11:21 GMT -8
I was expecting the real bounce would start today, but now I'm feeling that we will ping-pong under 650 until after Oct expiration.
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Post by joel90069 on Oct 12, 2012 10:16:19 GMT -8
Think this puppy is about to head back to 635. In what time frame?
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Post by wheeles on Oct 12, 2012 10:16:19 GMT -8
Think this puppy is about to head back to 635. Really? Today? How? I've been watching it work through a bottoming process on some shorter timeframes. If we start moving up again, then we'll hit the earlier resistance around 635. Also from an options perspective it falls in the trough between the call and put open interest on the weeklies. That's not to say we won't get some big thumb go on the scales like we did into the close last Friday, but if allowed to go relatively unmolested by a large player, then it should just float back up as put holders cash in.
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Post by wheeles on Oct 12, 2012 10:17:10 GMT -8
Think this puppy is about to head back to 635. In what time frame? I'm thinking today. But like everything in the market, nothing comes with a guarantee.
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Post by bernard on Oct 12, 2012 10:34:25 GMT -8
I was expecting the real bounce would start today, but now I'm feeling that we will ping-pong under 650 until after Oct expiration. Agree. There is nothing to drive it over 630 on this weeks options ( 635 being a break even between the puts and calls). For next week there is a significant wall of calls at 650 that will be hard to hurdle.
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Post by Mav on Oct 12, 2012 10:39:22 GMT -8
Good thing we're a little below 650. There's room to move. wheeles, sorry, I forget...where are you on the AAPL "bull scale"? I'd call myself an average bull, though I'm also a fairly active short-term trader to go with my longer-term trading and AAPL core common. For reference, Mercel called himself a Bull+ relative to me not so long ago.
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Post by wheeles on Oct 12, 2012 10:50:28 GMT -8
Good thing we're a little below 650. There's room to move. wheeles, sorry, I forget...where are you on the AAPL "bull scale"? I'd call myself an average bull, though I'm also a fairly active short-term trader to go with my longer-term trading and AAPL core common. For reference, Mercel called himself a Bull+ relative to me not so long ago. I trade technically, so sometimes I am long, sometimes I am short. Currently I am long, so I guess that make me an intermittent bull. It also makes me an intermittent bear.
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Post by wheeles on Oct 12, 2012 10:53:27 GMT -8
I'm thinking today. But like everything in the market, nothing comes with a guarantee. A measured move up of that recent $3.50 move up just now, from these levels would put us at 634. We could see a pin on that.
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Post by Mav on Oct 12, 2012 10:53:28 GMT -8
Purely on technicals? Gotcha.
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Post by wheeles on Oct 12, 2012 11:01:57 GMT -8
Purely on technicals? Gotcha. I try to stay relatively objective and trade technically, but in all fairness as soon as a position goes on you can't help but to root for the team you are on.
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Post by prazan on Oct 12, 2012 11:14:29 GMT -8
Trading Rule #927: Do not day trade while caring for a newborn.
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Post by Ted on Oct 12, 2012 11:18:45 GMT -8
I know the apple "ecosystem" is always referenced, but what does it exactly mean. For example, yes we have Itunes and yes I have a lot of songs on it. But if i got google music or whatever its called, I could easily get a droid and get those files/songs on the droid.....?? I think it has to do with Apple offering the country and much of the world the whole enchilada: We can buy a desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, Touch, Pod and Apple TV that can all communicate and sync with one another. Then one can go to Apple's bricks and mortar or online stores to buy hardware, accessories, software, music, video, books, magazine subscriptions and probably other stuff I'm forgetting. I can use my Apple OSes and Apple browser to buy safe and legal apps, etc. for my Apple devices and never really have a need to go to another vendor for my computing or entertainment needs.
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Post by terps530 on Oct 12, 2012 11:22:11 GMT -8
Trading Rule #927: Do not day trade while caring for a newborn. I broke rule #926: Do not day trade while on your honeymoon. Paying for it this week.
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Post by greedynoob on Oct 12, 2012 11:23:11 GMT -8
Trading Rule #927: Do not day trade while caring for a newborn. I broke rule #926: Do not day trade while on your honeymoon. Paying for it this week. Me too!
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Post by wheeles on Oct 12, 2012 11:25:40 GMT -8
There's been a lot of activity in the 630 and 635 calls. This really is killing any move up right now, so my predictions look like a bust again thanks to the wall of calls sitting just above.
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Post by prazan on Oct 12, 2012 11:27:00 GMT -8
I broke rule #926: Do not day trade while on your honeymoon. Paying for it this week. Me too! Hmmm... You can pay for it a few ways, in lost money or lost affection. It's better lose money, I've found, than to have your spouse angry at you.
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Post by Mav on Oct 12, 2012 11:28:55 GMT -8
Higher low...? Half hour to go.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that _would_ be a good sign in my book.
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Post by greedynoob on Oct 12, 2012 11:29:01 GMT -8
Hmmm... You can pay for it a few ways, in lost money or lost affection. It's better lose money, I've found, than to have your spouse angry at you. It's' money I'm losing this week, if anybody really wants to know ;-)
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Post by prazan on Oct 12, 2012 11:36:39 GMT -8
Higher low...? Half hour to go. Maybe I'm wrong, but that _would_ be a good sign in my book. The usual indicators aren't working normally (RSI etc) but this would at least be a sign of sanity.
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Post by 4aapl on Oct 12, 2012 11:39:06 GMT -8
Can you quote a little from the article, or summarize. You can even use the summarize service within OS X. I have a decent amount of Oct spreads topping out at 630. I'm fairly confident in them, but would love to hear what they said, or at least get an idea about it, before having to sign up for yet another AAPL forum.
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Post by incorrigible on Oct 12, 2012 11:40:37 GMT -8
Made position change today.
Sold Jan 2013 $300 calls @ $330 Bought 2X Jan 2015 $600 calls @ $143 Far enough out where I don't have to worry.
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Post by wheeles on Oct 12, 2012 11:41:39 GMT -8
The usual indicators aren't working normally (RSI etc) but this would at least be a sign of sanity. Blame it on weekly options. They really mess with technical studies. I hate it when they suck the volatility out of the action.
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Post by greedynoob on Oct 12, 2012 11:41:53 GMT -8
Can you quote a little from the article, or summarize. You can even use the summarize service within OS X. I have a decent amount of Oct spreads topping out at 630. I'm fairly confident in them, but would love to hear what they said, or at least get an idea about it, before having to sign up for yet another AAPL forum. If you're holding Oct options, manage them very carefully. Be prepared to roll down or cash out rather than depending on mere hope to avoid expiring worthless. All common sense obviously, but basically he's saying that he thinks right now is an unusually dangerous period for Oct options holders.
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Post by nkmho on Oct 12, 2012 11:48:33 GMT -8
Can you quote a little from the article, or summarize. You can even use the summarize service within OS X. I have a decent amount of Oct spreads topping out at 630. I'm fairly confident in them, but would love to hear what they said, or at least get an idea about it, before having to sign up for yet another AAPL forum.
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Post by Mav on Oct 12, 2012 11:49:31 GMT -8
Of course, the game has changed.
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Post by Mav on Oct 12, 2012 12:01:39 GMT -8
Closed a bit under 630.
Higher low, maybe a little seller fatigue, "rumor support" (more like 99.9999% likelihood of Apple media invite by next week), relative strength...I'll take it.
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