Since84
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Post by Since84 on Jun 1, 2017 2:18:53 GMT -8
Good morning everyone. New month. New opportunity for AAPL to shine. Markets are mostly GREEN. Only Shanghai and the DOW are RED. AAPL is nicely GREEN at this early hour, trading at $153.40 +0.64 (0.42%). It has been a very quiet week in the news. Perhaps too many commentators took the week off. If you have an apple tree, go watch the blossoms. If not, watch the Latest Apple Park drone footage — Is that a barn? courtesy of The Loop. Have a great day. Let's make money.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jun 1, 2017 4:10:51 GMT -8
UBS raises PT from $170 t $190 Milunovich says, "The iPhone 8 is expected to be sold at a higher price than previous versions, leading to higher revenues, according to Milunovich. His analysis is based on sales growth of 15%, at an average selling price of $730 per phone."Here is the link: finance.yahoo.com/news/ubs-apple-could-worth-lot-163000409.html
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Post by phoebear611 on Jun 1, 2017 5:14:52 GMT -8
From JPM this morning: Thoughts ahead of the WWDC Keynote - ALERT
Apple will host their WWDC Keynote next Monday, June 5, at 10am PT. We are generally expecting a software focused event as usual with UI and functionality enhancements to iOS, tvOS, watchOS and macOS. We would expect a lot of focus on Siri as well as video media consumption apps and platforms. On the hardware front we see potential for incremental improvements in iPad, MacBook Pro and Apple TV and possibly a preview of the iPhone coming this Fall. We note that an early iPhone reveal might freeze buyers this Summer and improve Apple’s replacement demand potential as they launch new devices this Fall
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Post by gtrplyr on Jun 1, 2017 11:53:17 GMT -8
US pulls out of Paris agreement.
Elon Musk has tweeted that if the U.S. did pull out he would quit the president's advisory council .... I wonder if Tim has made any statements ? I'm not trying to get political but the fact of the matter is Apple prides itself upon being a environmentally friendly company , let's see how this goes over with Tim Cook.
Cheers to the longs.
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 1, 2017 12:03:41 GMT -8
US pulls out of Paris agreement. Elon Musk has tweeted that if the U.S. did pull out he would quit the president's advisory council .... I wonder if Tim has made any statements ? I'm not trying to get political but the fact of the matter is Apple prides itself upon being a environmentally friendly company , let's see how this goes over with Tim Cook. Cheers to the longs. Just an observation: Everything TESLA does depends on expensive energy. Whether it is oil or electricity.... Algore with his mansions and private jets:
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Post by macster on Jun 1, 2017 12:19:07 GMT -8
It seems to me our country's CEO's had no idea of the unfair demands on our country and its taxpayers this Paris accord deals us. Makes me want to puke on them and those that signed it. Sorry Tim you are wrong, way way wrong. Im speaking non-partisan politically. The US is a leader clean technologies.
Edit. Today the US has recommitted itself to clean energy, clean technologies, air and water. You heard it again out of the mouth of Potus Trump.
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Post by incorrigible on Jun 1, 2017 12:27:29 GMT -8
Since when does one need a government mandate to be environmentally friendly? Do you need a gov't mandate to give to charity? It stinks for the U.S. and was imposed by the previous administration via executive order. Should be withdrawn. (Holy shit. I made a politically tainted post. I'm so ashamed. Sorry )
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crispin
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Post by crispin on Jun 1, 2017 12:30:32 GMT -8
US pulls out of Paris agreement. Elon Musk has tweeted that if the U.S. did pull out he would quit the president's advisory council .... I wonder if Tim has made any statements ? I'm not trying to get political but the fact of the matter is Apple prides itself upon being a environmentally friendly company , let's see how this goes over with Tim Cook. Cheers to the longs. Tim and many other prominent CEOs urged the US not to withdraw from the Paris Climate Pact. Some reports said that Tim even called the WH. No matter what the orange buffoon does, I'm sure Apple will continue to strive to reduce their ecological footprint and combat climate change. That's one of the things that makes me proud to be a shareholder.
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Post by dreamRaj on Jun 1, 2017 13:07:24 GMT -8
After the facts came to light about how the deal disadvantages the US, I'm for Trump on this one. Kudos to him for taking a stand and withdrawing while also clearly committing to strive for cleaner energy and environment. And, I liked how he nicely explained the facts for his action rather than simply tweeting his decision.
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Post by gtrplyr on Jun 1, 2017 14:17:37 GMT -8
Elon has tweeted that he is out of the advisory council .... I hope Tim does the same.
EDIT: Robert Iger has also decided to leave the "advisory" council .... somehow I think the word "advisory" is used VERY loosely when applied to anything dealing with the orange buffoon.
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Post by david on Jun 1, 2017 16:11:14 GMT -8
After the facts came to light about how the deal disadvantages the US, I'm for Trump on this one. Kudos to him for taking a stand and withdrawing while also clearly committing to strive for cleaner energy and environment. And, I liked how he nicely explained the facts for his action rather than simply tweeting his decision. "I liked how he nicely explained the facts ..." You've done some fact checking?
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Jun 1, 2017 16:59:08 GMT -8
Here's the front page of TheWeatherChannel.com right now, that hotbed of liberal propaganda... Or maybe it's just that, as Stephen Colbert said, "reality has a well-known liberal bias."
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 1, 2017 17:14:54 GMT -8
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Post by gtrplyr on Jun 1, 2017 18:18:38 GMT -8
Not sure what you meant .... there is PLENTY of science on this . Most of the world sees this as fact ... here is something from NASA ... with a list of several extremely well respected associations who agree. climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/or you could listen to a bloated , drug addict who probably didn't get past a high-school chemistry class ... (Rush Limbaugh) Regardless of the climate issues pulling out of this accord has financial ramifications as well ....
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Post by tuffett on Jun 1, 2017 18:28:54 GMT -8
After the facts came to light about how the deal disadvantages the US, I'm for Trump on this one. Kudos to him for taking a stand and withdrawing while also clearly committing to strive for cleaner energy and environment. And, I liked how he nicely explained the facts for his action rather than simply tweeting his decision. Odds of anything coming out of Trump's mouth being a fact are close to 0.
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Post by zzmac on Jun 1, 2017 18:40:52 GMT -8
After the facts came to light about how the deal disadvantages the US, I'm for Trump on this one. Kudos to him for taking a stand and withdrawing while also clearly committing to strive for cleaner energy and environment. And, I liked how he nicely explained the facts for his action rather than simply tweeting his decision. Odds of anything coming out of Trump's mouth being a fact are close to 0. The attached video (funny but sad) shows how President Chauncey Gardner's thought process works when not using a teleprompter with a speech written by someone else. Chauncey is slowly dismantling your democracy. I hope when Mueller finishes his investigation that impeachment proceedings begin. That is how you'll begin make America great again. Being Unaware
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Post by macster on Jun 1, 2017 19:14:12 GMT -8
Those crying about the withdrawal from the Paris agreement have not seen the details. This is not about climate science. This is about a very bad deal that does not reduce US carbon output more than the increase in India and China carbon output. And the US pays a tremendous TAX to boot. I understand some of you adore Barrack but come on, It is a very bad deal.
1 Goodbye to ‘American Last.’ The Paris agreement was basically an attempt to halt climate change on the honor system. Its only legal requirements were for signatories to announce goals and report progress, with no international enforcement mechanism. As a result, it was likely that the United States and wealthy European nations would have adopted and implemented severe climate change rules while many of the world’s governments would avoid doing anything that would slow their own economies. The agreement basically made the U.S. economy and Europe’s strongest economies sacrificial lambs to the cause of climate change. 2 Industrial Carnage. The regulations necessary to implement the Paris agreement would have cost the U.S. industrial sector 1.1 million jobs, according to a study commissioned by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. These job losses would center in cement, iron and steel, and petroleum refining. Industrial output would decline sharply. 3 Hollowing Out Michigan, Missouri, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. The industrial carnage would have been concentrated on four states, according to the Chamber of Commerce study. Michigan’s GDP would shrink by 0.8 percent and employment would contract by 74,000 jobs. Missouri’s GDP would shrink by 1 percent. Ohio’s GDP would contract 1.2 percent. Pennsylvania’s GDP would decline by 1.8 percent and the state would lose 140,000 jobs. 4 Smashing Small Businesses, Helping Big Business. Big businesses in America strongly backed the Paris climate deal. In fact, the backers of the climate deal reads like a “who’s who” of big American businesses: Apple, General Electric, Intel, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Morgan Stanley, General Mills, Walmart, DuPont, Unilever, and Johnson & Johnson. These business giants can more easily cope with costly regulations than their smaller competitors and many would, in fact, find business opportunities from the changes required. But smaller businesses and traditional start-ups would likely be hurt by the increased costs of compliance and rising energy costs. 5 Making America Poorer Again. A Heritage Foundation study found that the Paris agreement would have increased the electricity costs of an American family of four by between 13 percent and 20 percent annually. It forecast a loss of income of $20,000 by 2035. In other words, American families would be paying more while making less. 6 Much Poorer. The overall effect of the agreement would have been to reduce U.S. GDP by over $2.5 trillion and eliminate 400,000 jobs by 2035, according to Heritage’s study. This would exacerbate problems with government funding and deficits, make Social Security solvency more challenging, and increase reliance on government’s spending to support households.
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Post by tuffett on Jun 1, 2017 20:14:43 GMT -8
Not likely. There are today more American jobs in the solar industry than there are in the coal industry. The cost of renewable energy technology is rapidly decreasing, and good ol' USA will find themselves playing catch up in a few years time while the rest of the world laughs.
I'll admit to not having read these studies, but I highly doubt any of these cost projections have taken into account the human health impact and subsequent healthcare costs of energy production through combustion. Hmmm, what country is it again that has an outrageous healthcare system that a majority of its citizens cannot afford? Oh, the irony...
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Post by macster on Jun 2, 2017 3:56:51 GMT -8
Not likely. There are today more American jobs in the solar industry than there are in the coal industry. The cost of renewable energy technology is rapidly decreasing, and good ol' USA will find themselves playing catch up in a few years time while the rest of the world laughs. I'll admit to not having read these studies, but I highly doubt any of these cost projections have taken into account the human health impact and subsequent healthcare costs of energy production through combustion. Hmmm, what country is it again that has an outrageous healthcare system that a majority of its citizens cannot afford? Oh, the irony... Here's the truth about the ParisAgreement tuffet. It was nothing but an Obama Slush Fund that would have killed 6.5M Jobs over 15 years. If you *read* the Paris deal and not MSM's interpretation, The guy who *signed it* would be the traitor, not the guy who broke it. Regulation alone stifled the US economy over the last 8 years by a enormous amount mirrored by the fact growth in the US has been dismal. And the US is a leader/exporter in clean technologies and unlikely will fall behind the rest of the world. Proof of this is the fact that the US has reduced its carbon footprint to mid 90's output over the last 15 years by technology alone with govt regulation I will add. Edit: Tim didn't read the details of the Paris accord or else he would not have supported it in its current form. Neither did Elon and neither would any of us. To both of them its all about the earth which we all care about. But this Paris deal is just a lousy deal for the US, while letting the largest polluters continue unregulated for 15 years.
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Post by macster on Jun 2, 2017 4:13:56 GMT -8
Saw this posted on another board recently... The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate at Bergen Norway Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the Gulf Stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelt which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable. * * * * * * * * * I must apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 94 years ago. docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf
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Post by gtrplyr on Jun 2, 2017 7:22:10 GMT -8
Saw this posted on another board recently... The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate at Bergen Norway Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the Gulf Stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelt which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable. * * * * * * * * * I must apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 94 years ago. docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdfThis is as stupid as someone saying " It's been a really cool Summer ... what's with all this global warming nonsense" .... This entire process is not going to happen overnight .... but it's indisputable that the ocean temps have been on the rise and that has accelerated in the last several hundred years. Do you think Science has improved in the last 100 years Maybe we know more about what is going on now and we can say that in 1922 they might have been seeing the beginnings of this but they didn't exactly understand it. This is really pointless as trying to prove the existence of Global warming to non-believers is futile. If you have 12 mins to spare .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKCuDxpccYM
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 2, 2017 8:35:04 GMT -8
Saw this posted on another board recently... The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate at Bergen Norway Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the Gulf Stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelt which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable. * * * * * * * * * I must apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 94 years ago. docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdfThis is as stupid as someone saying " It's been a really cool Summer ... what's with all this global warming nonsense" .... This entire process is not going to happen overnight .... but it's indisputable that the ocean temps have been on the rise and that has accelerated in the last several hundred years. Do you think Science has improved in the last 100 years Maybe we know more about what is going on now and we can say that in 1922 they might have been seeing the beginnings of this but they didn't exactly understand it. This is really pointless as trying to prove the existence of Global warming to non-believers is futile. If you have 12 mins to spare .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKCuDxpccYM It's been a really cool Summer here in Saint Paul, I am worried about my tomatoes.
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Post by macster on Jun 2, 2017 10:42:03 GMT -8
Saw this posted on another board recently... The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate at Bergen Norway Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the Gulf Stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelt which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable. * * * * * * * * * I must apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 94 years ago. docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdfThis is as stupid as someone saying " It's been a really cool Summer ... what's with all this global warming nonsense" .... This entire process is not going to happen overnight .... but it's indisputable that the ocean temps have been on the rise and that has accelerated in the last several hundred years. Do you think Science has improved in the last 100 years Maybe we know more about what is going on now and we can say that in 1922 they might have been seeing the beginnings of this but they didn't exactly understand it. This is really pointless as trying to prove the existence of Global warming to non-believers is futile. If you have 12 mins to spare .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKCuDxpccYMYes I think man does effect the Gobal environment in many regards. The Earth does have its fickle weather tantrums every couple of decades though. Most everyone agrees and we are making progress. We know the Paris agreement will not effect much improvement in global CO2. The Irony is the Paris climate accord was simply the latest incarnation of the old Kyoto Protocol from the 1990s that sought to redistribute wealth from the industrial nations. The Green Climate Fund, which is part of the Paris agreement, is the latest effort in that regard. As Commerce Sec.Wibur Ross Says "I think they’re wrong because what the President is not doing is saying he’s not going to try to improve climate. What he is saying is this particular agreement does not appeal, was destructive of U.S. economic growth going out into the future. I think they’re confusing the withdrawal from the agreement with the idea that he’s against helping the climate. That’s not the case."
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