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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 21:13:31 GMT -8
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Post by nathanstevens on Mar 21, 2013 21:41:00 GMT -8
Pain range is 445-449.99 but 450 call OI only exceeds put OI by 150 contracts. Wouldn't be surprised to see it creep up a strike by the end of the day to 450-454.99.
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Post by mace on Mar 21, 2013 21:48:22 GMT -8
Max pain is $445 and highest OI (calls) is $460. Would be disappointed if the NYT article is able to force AAPL to close below $445.
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Post by Mav on Mar 21, 2013 23:59:08 GMT -8
Pffft. If it's iPhone, then it _should_ be every OEM under the sun.
Follow the price action. Won't be long until the market gets its chance to weigh in on that FUD piece.
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Post by Mav on Mar 22, 2013 0:24:31 GMT -8
Super-early of course. But so far, so nope!
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Post by Big Al on Mar 22, 2013 1:22:21 GMT -8
Comment by Mace in yesterday's thread:
How (when?) do you know that AAPL is in a primary degree impulse?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 2:04:27 GMT -8
Super-early of course. But so far, so nope! Indeed - looks good.
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Post by phoebear611 on Mar 22, 2013 2:20:44 GMT -8
This is the only line in the NYT article that this market should digest and run away with: "Carriers are petrified at the thought of not having the smartphone because it remains a huge hit with the public..."
ENOUGH SAID!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 2:20:50 GMT -8
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Post by bick on Mar 22, 2013 4:08:56 GMT -8
I think what's happening with AAPL is the prospect of a divvy increase and larger share buyback is acting as support on pullbacks to pull in buyers.
I have a theory. If there is no announcement on Monday about the cash, then Apple has chosen to wait until the earnings call to make the announcement. Knowing the y/y compare will be difficult, why not provide a gift to shareholders to support the stock.
The market may be figuring this out. As we approach earnings, the stock may appreciate like in the good old days and not wait until the earnings call.
A divvy increase is all but guaranteed. The question is when, how much, and if larger buy back too?
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Post by sponge on Mar 22, 2013 6:22:06 GMT -8
I think what's happening with AAPL is the prospect of a divvy increase and larger share buyback is acting as support on pullbacks to pull in buyers. I have a theory. If there is no announcement on Monday about the cash, then Apple has chosen to wait until the earnings call to make the announcement. Knowing the y/y compare will be difficult, why not provide a gift to shareholders to support the stock. The market may be figuring this out. As we approach earnings, the stock may appreciate like in the good old days and not wait until the earnings call. A divvy increase is all but guaranteed. The question is when, how much, and if larger buy back too? I agree. We may still have to wait until July however. But I think we have a 70% of getting some announcement in April, especially buyback increase. Nice to see the pop this morning but it seems to be moving with overall market. I want to see 460 reached today and conquered.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 6:32:18 GMT -8
I think what's happening with AAPL is the prospect of a divvy increase and larger share buyback is acting as support on pullbacks to pull in buyers. I have a theory. If there is no announcement on Monday about the cash, then Apple has chosen to wait until the earnings call to make the announcement. Knowing the y/y compare will be difficult, why not provide a gift to shareholders to support the stock. The market may be figuring this out. As we approach earnings, the stock may appreciate like in the good old days and not wait until the earnings call. A divvy increase is all but guaranteed. The question is when, how much, and if larger buy back too? I agree. We may still have to wait until July however. But I think we have a 70% of getting some announcement in April, especially buyback increase. Nice to see the pop this morning but it seems to be moving with overall market. I want to see 460 reached today and conquered. More like 95% chance in April with divvy increase; Wall Street isn't going to wait until July. And $455 is the battleground today. Over $455 will be more support that sentiment is changing. We have very little chance of conquering $460 without a catalyst.
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Post by sponge on Mar 22, 2013 6:44:46 GMT -8
I am starting to warm up to seeing a non retina, non LTE, plastic, sub $300 iPhone for the cheap masses.
With the 4S dropping to $450, I think the time has arrived to attack that market. Then next year announce a kick ass bigger iPhone and charge more as Apple enters into a higher end market.
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Post by mace on Mar 22, 2013 6:55:41 GMT -8
Comment by Mace in yesterday's thread: How (when?) do you know that AAPL is in a primary degree impulse? Refer to EW thread. In weekly chart, price should be above 52-week EMA, MACD above zero, RSI >50.
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Post by tuffett on Mar 22, 2013 7:17:33 GMT -8
Anyone seen these iOS7 concept videos? No affiliation with Apple, but I like many of the ideas. macdailynews.com/2013/03/21/ios-7-concept-videos-released-by-apple-fan/There's no reason at this point to not have a more functional lock screen. Simple things like turning Bluetooth or wifi on an off or being able to instantly reply to a text would be significant improvements to the current. There must be some middle some middle ground between packing it with customizable and often useless features a la Android and having nothing but the clock, iPod and camera on iOS. A few basic system functions would be great, with the option to add or remove based on the user's needs. It's not hard to do either.
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Post by sponge on Mar 22, 2013 7:19:33 GMT -8
Well the sponge is leaving today for his annual family ski Vacation to the skiing paradise known as Utah.
aapl has consistently gone up when I have been out of town. Lets hope the tradition continues and next week we see 465+ at this time.
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Post by appledoc on Mar 22, 2013 7:21:28 GMT -8
I am starting to warm up to seeing a non retina, non LTE, plastic, sub $300 iPhone for the cheap masses. I'm not. I've always said I'll be finished with this company if they put out a piece of trash like that. What you just described is what we laugh at and bash on when released by any other company.
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Post by sponge on Mar 22, 2013 7:24:51 GMT -8
I am starting to warm up to seeing a non retina, non LTE, plastic, sub $300 iPhone for the cheap masses. I'm not. I've always said I'll be finished with this company if they put out a piece of trash like that. What you just described is what we laugh at and bash on when released by any other company. The 3GS was not a piece of trash. I think Apple could do it the question is weather they will and if they do when. The time may be now when smartphone adoption has decreased in its rate of growth due to high prices , especially in the emerging markets. With the non Retina Mini, they could do the same with the iPhone. We will see this summer if all those analysts were right.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 7:29:29 GMT -8
I'm not. I've always said I'll be finished with this company if they put out a piece of trash like that. What you just described is what we laugh at and bash on when released by any other company. The 3GS was not a piece of trash. I think Apple could do it the question is weather they will and if they do when. The time may be now when smartphone adoption has decreased in its rate of growth due to high prices , especially in the emerging markets. With the non Retina Mini, they could do the same with the iPhone. We will see this summer if all those analysts were right. I agree with Doc...yes, the 3GS wasn't trash 4 years ago, but if it came out today, it'd be trash. Make premium products and if someone wants to buy it, they'll pay. If they can't afford the latest version, thats why you have the 4 available for free on contract. Or there's always a huge re-sale market if you want to find an old, cheap iPhone. Yes, that money doesn't go directly to Apple, but it gets them in the ecosystem.
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Post by mightydog on Mar 22, 2013 7:37:47 GMT -8
The 3GS was not a piece of trash. I think Apple could do it the question is weather they will and if they do when. The time may be now when smartphone adoption has decreased in its rate of growth due to high prices , especially in the emerging markets. With the non Retina Mini, they could do the same with the iPhone. We will see this summer if all those analysts were right. I agree with Doc...yes, the 3GS wasn't trash 4 years ago, but if it came out today, it'd be trash. Make premium products and if someone wants to buy it, they'll pay. If they can't afford the latest version, thats why you have the 4 available for free on contract. Or there's always a huge re-sale market if you want to find an old, cheap iPhone. Yes, that money doesn't go directly to Apple, but it gets them in the ecosystem. +1
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Post by pauls on Mar 22, 2013 7:39:53 GMT -8
I'd like to see the iOS ecosystem spread faster and deeper in pre-paid and developing markets. Bring on a lower cost handset! This, to me, is no different than past (and current) iPod strategy, or even past (and current) MacBook strategy, except there is more at stake.
Lower end does not have to be lower quality. Plenty of room to keep growing the top of the line.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 7:58:45 GMT -8
A non-retina iPhone would be a mistake IMO. Retina quality displays on phones are a minimum at this stage. I'd rather Apple launch a 4.9" phone with higher retina specs and retain existing resolution for any new product targeting emerging markets.
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Post by qualitywte on Mar 22, 2013 7:59:03 GMT -8
This is going to be very difficult to introduce a lower cost phone at the same time they need to continue to lead the market with the best smartphone. I think Apple can do just that! There will be extreme criticism whatever they do but in the end, I think they will move the ball further down the field.
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Post by sponge on Mar 22, 2013 8:10:53 GMT -8
Someone let the dogs out. Nice little breakout.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Mar 22, 2013 8:11:11 GMT -8
Well, Samsung was shown to have no game...apple up.
Blackberry now shown to have no game...apple up.
Push toward that 50 day moving average......460 or bust.
(wait, don't bust..)
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Post by appledoc on Mar 22, 2013 8:18:29 GMT -8
The 3GS was not a piece of trash. May as well go back and re-release the iMac G3 while we're at it.
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Post by mstrmac on Mar 22, 2013 8:30:01 GMT -8
Apple's board should make everyone happy. Add a split along with a buyback and modest divvy increase. Why not.
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Post by joel90069 on Mar 22, 2013 8:32:35 GMT -8
So much for my prediction we'd be pinned to 450!
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Post by mace on Mar 22, 2013 8:33:38 GMT -8
I'd like to see the iOS ecosystem spread faster and deeper in pre-paid and developing markets. Bring on a lower cost handset! This, to me, is no different than past (and current) iPod strategy, or even past (and current) MacBook strategy, except there is more at stake. Actually, iPod shuffle/nano/mini are targeted to the same market segment as iPod, just different lifestyle. MacBook is targeted to consumers e.g. College students, who would move up to MacBook Pro once they started working. Now back to SJ's vision, "get a computer in the hands of everyday people", "a computer for the rest of us", so I expect Apple to push the price down for iPad, expect a 5" display iPad nano/iPod pro/iPhone + to be launched at a ridiculously low price of $299 starting. That is, catering to the affordability luxury is not its original mission, is to gather sufficient $ to push quality products to the masses. iPhone 3GS is selling for $380 at Target and Walmart. Don't think Apple should sell a plastic cover iPhone. IMHO, Apple should lower the price of iPhone 4S now rather than wait till Sep/Oct. Idea is to stagger the price change rather than on the same date. Meanwhile AAPL is trading at $458+, don't expect it to close above $460 today because of the highest OI (calls) wall at $460, would be ecstatic if it does. In any case, a close above $450 today would mean $485 would be in sight next week, latest by Apr 5. Above $460, rally is hard to stop.
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Post by appledoc on Mar 22, 2013 8:35:56 GMT -8
Apple's board should make everyone happy. Add a split along with a buyback and modest divvy increase. Why not. Dividend increase is a given. Off the top of my head, I can't even think of a company that doesn't do a yearly increase. Would like to see at least 20%. Buyback is the bigger deal. Increase the $10B/3 year to $50B/3 year.
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