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Post by aapl on Apr 11, 2024 3:52:48 GMT -8
Apple is down every so slightly in the premarkets: 167.77 -$0.01 (-0.01%)
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Apr 11, 2024 5:09:26 GMT -8
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Post by macster on Apr 11, 2024 9:52:37 GMT -8
I’m looking around for news. Why is up 3% just now?
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Post by nwjade on Apr 11, 2024 10:35:42 GMT -8
I’m looking around for news. Why is up 3% just now? I think a number of things are coming together here with interest rates spiking back up rotation is shifting back to big tech, Apple is a way over sold member of big tech, expectations are mounting of AI announcements at WWDC not just involving iPhone but across the product line (see Story linked below) Apple Plans to Overhaul Entire Mac Line With AI-Focused M4 Chips finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-plans-overhaul-entire-mac-165009775.html
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Post by duckpins on Apr 11, 2024 10:47:54 GMT -8
Certainly a startling day! Hope it continues, bad news for call sellers. If it is true all the macs are being updated will we get the 27" back or God be with us a 30" iMac? AI stocks onward and upward, our sister Berkshire is up only a mere.44% compared to AVGO and NVDA giving a years return in one day, 4.8 and 3.4% respectively.
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Post by Dave on Apr 11, 2024 11:11:46 GMT -8
What a difference a day can make. Onward and upward.
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Post by nwjade on Apr 11, 2024 11:16:36 GMT -8
What a difference a day can make. Onward and upward. Now if we can get follow through tomorrow, that would be sweet!
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Post by coma on Apr 11, 2024 11:40:54 GMT -8
I’m looking around for news. Why is up 3% just now? I was wondering about that too, then I had the thought that maybe Apple announced a personal transporter app.
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Post by Dave on Apr 11, 2024 12:26:34 GMT -8
I’m looking around for news. Why is up 3% just now? I was wondering about that too, then I had the thought that maybe Apple announced a personal transporter app. Cool ! ! !
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Post by 4aapl on Apr 11, 2024 13:42:53 GMT -8
Certainly a startling day! Hope it continues, bad news for call sellers. If it is true all the macs are being updated will we get the 27" back or God be with us a 30" iMac? I like my 27" iMac, but I think my next Mac will be a laptop or Mac Mini, with 1 or more external monitors when used at my desk. Part of it is just an efficiency thing, that I can continue using the external monitor with future devices. And if going for matching, it is easier to get two new displays, than try to get another to closely match a built in display on an iMac.
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Post by coma on Apr 11, 2024 15:08:15 GMT -8
I was wondering about that too, then I had the thought that maybe Apple announced a personal transporter app. Cool ! ! ! Yes it would be . . . Just think of all the industries that would become useless, redundant and economically inefficient.
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Post by gtrplyr on Apr 11, 2024 16:44:58 GMT -8
I was thinking the exact same thing. I have an iMac that is getting a bit long in the tooth in my studio but the display is absolutely beautiful! It's a total shame, not to mention a waste of resources to get rid of the whole thing. Mac mini's and a nice external Studio display for me from here on out.
Cheers to the longs
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Post by benoir on Apr 11, 2024 17:13:20 GMT -8
Certainly a startling day! Hope it continues, bad news for call sellers. If it is true all the macs are being updated will we get the 27" back or God be with us a 30" iMac? I like my 27" iMac, but I think my next Mac will be a laptop or Mac Mini, with 1 or more external monitors when used at my desk. Part of it is just an efficiency thing, that I can continue using the external monitor with future devices. And if going for matching, it is easier to get two new displays, than try to get another to closely match a built in display on an iMac. My current Mac is the last intel iMac 27 beefed up to which I have the 4K LG monitor(through Apple) attached to it. The 5K monitor on the iMac is great for the apps I use, one being Vectorworks, which I use both monitors so I can display relevant tool palettes and a decent amount of drawing/modelling space. The iMac is getting on though and I'm due for a replacement. I would love the real estate the 6K Pro Display affords but I'm not sure I want to pony up the AU$8500 (US$5000) for that luxury. Recently I have been helping my son learn Solid Works as part of his ID uni course and in the process I am also learning how to use this amazing program that I first ogled over some 20 years ago. So now I get to used it. He has the 13" M2 MacBook Pro and I was quite surprised at how productive I was using that program on a 13" screen. For most other apps 27" and 5K is my sweet spot. But like you I have been toying with the idea of going portable. Part of the reason is the performance available from the M chips, the other reason is that post-Covid, I now work, wherever, whenever. Should Apple release a 30" +5K iMac, then I'm staying desktop.
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Post by 4aapl on Apr 11, 2024 21:11:04 GMT -8
I like my 27" iMac, but I think my next Mac will be a laptop or Mac Mini, with 1 or more external monitors when used at my desk. Part of it is just an efficiency thing, that I can continue using the external monitor with future devices. And if going for matching, it is easier to get two new displays, than try to get another to closely match a built in display on an iMac. My current Mac is the last intel iMac 27 beefed up to which I have the 4K LG monitor(through Apple) attached to it. The 5K monitor on the iMac is great for the apps I use, one being Vectorworks, which I use both monitors so I can display relevant tool palettes and a decent amount of drawing/modelling space. The iMac is getting on though and I'm due for a replacement. I would love the real estate the 6K Pro Display affords but I'm not sure I want to pony up the AU$8500 (US$5000) for that luxury. Recently I have been helping my son learn Solid Works as part of his ID uni course and in the process I am also learning how to use this amazing program that I first ogled over some 20 years ago. So now I get to used it. He has the 13" M2 MacBook Pro and I was quite surprised at how productive I was using that program on a 13" screen. For most other apps 27" and 5K is my sweet spot. But like you I have been toying with the idea of going portable. Part of the reason is the performance available from the M chips, the other reason is that post-Covid, I now work, wherever, whenever. Should Apple release a 30" +5K iMac, then I'm staying desktop. There's always been that potential trade-off, that a portable would be nice but might not have the power or upgradability. By killing some of the upgradability across the board (first extra slots, optical bays, and HD bays when moving from a tower to an iMac, and now even extra memory slots), it negates it at least partly. With not really needing a ton of power, and the laptops being nearly as powerful as the desktops, the ability to just plug in a few things seems like a fine solution. Almost like the days of the Duo...except they had upgradable memory. As for monitors, I'm always bugged when looking at places like Costco that many of their 27" displays are just FHD, 1920x1080. It's tough to find a reasonably priced 5k screen. But then I checked my settings, and it turns out I just run the 5k iMac at half res, the default 2560x1440. Switching it over to 5120x2880 is just funny, though maybe it could work out if I had some high end program that could use the finer lines, while changing things like browsers and mail to be larger and visible at that resolution. There's a lot more displays that can work at that default resolution, while there is also the choice of going with a 5k or 8k TV. I still think of JMP's 8 Apple 30" display setup, which then had some initial bugs because of sequential serial numbers. Sometimes crazy display setups can be fun, even if they often don't look like some mismatched vision from Hackers , Matrix, or SwordFish. But I've used multi-display setups maybe half the time since a SE or SE/30 we got for my sister, that had an extra Radius Portrait display. With the 27" iMac I just haven't needed extra screen space too often.
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Post by incorrigible on Apr 12, 2024 4:23:41 GMT -8
I was thinking the exact same thing. I have an iMac that is getting a bit long in the tooth in my studio but the display is absolutely beautiful! It's a total shame, not to mention a waste of resources to get rid of the whole thing. Mac mini's and a nice external Studio display for me from here on out. I'm in the same boat.
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Post by Dave on Apr 12, 2024 4:52:40 GMT -8
I'm currently using a LG Ultra Fine 5K 27" display, which is beautiful, connected to a M1 MacMini. But I've recently bought a Mac Pro 6,1 (2013) to play with, and to add some eye candy to my desk. The problem is the need to swap out the keyboard/mouse connections along with the connection from each computer. It's no big deal, but I've found what I think may be an attractive solution. It's Dell's new 40" 5k/120 monitor (HDR U4025Qw). It has the ability to use a single keyboard/mouse with several computers at once. And a dropdown set of USB connectors that can be accessed from the front. It looks like Dell has tried to cover all the bases with its design. I've never used a curved monitor before and I've always thought that it would be a good idea. It's on my wish list for now. A review: One Month with the Best Monitor in the World: The New Dell 40" 5K120 HDR U4025QW
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Post by mark on Apr 15, 2024 6:28:07 GMT -8
I still think of JMP's 8 Apple 30" display setup, which then had some initial bugs because of sequential serial numbers. As I recall, the issue was not sequential serial numbers, but rather a hash algorithm on them that erroneously didn't result in unique identifiers. It was a VERY difficult problem to debug and multiple Apple engineers worked on it for months with JMP. It's one of those software bugs that are not at all easy to find, partly because it is so esoteric to begin with, and partly because you don't expect a simple function ("hash") that's been used millions of times to have this kind of blatant bug in it.
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Post by 4aapl on Apr 15, 2024 7:59:46 GMT -8
I still think of JMP's 8 Apple 30" display setup, which then had some initial bugs because of sequential serial numbers. As I recall, the issue was not sequential serial numbers, but rather a hash algorithm on them that erroneously didn't result in unique identifiers. It was a VERY difficult problem to debug and multiple Apple engineers worked on it for months with JMP. It's one of those software bugs that are not at all easy to find, partly because it is so esoteric to begin with, and partly because you don't expect a simple function ("hash") that's been used millions of times to have this kind of blatant bug in it. I helped put him in touch with some of those engineers. I didn't keep up with the whole thing, but an email from him said it had to do with having sequential SNs, and so even in trying to reproduce it (true story, most people don't test with 8x 30" displays, at all) they weren't seeing the problem at first. But your memory is likely right, that it wasn't just that the SNs were sequential, but that there was then some sort of hash used that then made sequential ones conflict, and that caused bad things to happen. Those crazy setup bugs were always the worst. I remember one from the field (like University of Michigan) and one from a teammate, both that had a crazy long list of setup or resources. This is something you'd have to duplicate up front, and again duplicate later on to see if it was fixed, sometimes without the SW engineer duplicating it but instead throwing a fix at it (and hoping). It's always great to simplify, such as using 10 computers to do it instead of a full lab of 200-300 systems. ahhhh, fun times. It wasn't all rainbows and roses, but I did enjoy hunting down problems, even if I wasn't the one that got to (had to?) fix them.
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