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Post by Since84 on Feb 11, 2016 3:33:30 GMT -8
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Post by Since84 on Feb 11, 2016 3:52:43 GMT -8
Interestingly, Max Pain is currently at $91.
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Post by Since84 on Feb 11, 2016 3:53:54 GMT -8
Question of the day...
What will you do with your dividend? If reinvesting, what are your target price points?
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Post by rickag on Feb 11, 2016 4:29:56 GMT -8
The Samsung bit made me laugh. Thanks
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Post by rezonate on Feb 11, 2016 4:38:16 GMT -8
With my dividend I will buy a pizza.
Lots to be excited about on the Apple front, and as we all know that has nothing to do with AAPL. Apple Watch 2 with better battery and sensors, updated faces, sleep tracking, and revamped companion apps is just around the corner. iPad Air 3 with Apple pencil support, iPhone 7 with 3D cameras and a lighter case (carbon fiber?) before the fall. Ribbon cutting on Apple Campus II this year. What is going on with Beats - the sleeper story for the holiday quarter? Apple Music with expanded artist involvement, exclusive content, and more radio channels. Home Kit, Research Kit, Kitchen Sink Kit, Fitness Kit, _____ Kit - all poised to strike. Retail expansion into India and beyond. Clean energy expansion, iOS 10, USB 3: live or die?
Any excitement for the shareholder meeting? Anybody heading over this year?
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Post by appledoc on Feb 11, 2016 6:37:31 GMT -8
Weekly SMA200 has historically provided great support. Currently 91.81. Of course there's also the 92 level from summer that will hopefully provide support. I added more a few days ago. Not worried long or short term. I think AAPL at this level could be a haven even if the market downslide continues.
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Post by mrentropy on Feb 11, 2016 7:07:09 GMT -8
Question of the day... What will you do with your dividend? If reinvesting, what are your target price points? Automatic re-invest here. It is not always the best price, but sometimes you do get a deal, like today.
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Post by mrentropy on Feb 11, 2016 7:44:54 GMT -8
Looks like that 92 test is on deck again.
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Post by mrentropy on Feb 11, 2016 8:25:32 GMT -8
And here we are. We lose 92, the elevator is going to move very fast
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Post by macwire on Feb 11, 2016 8:31:35 GMT -8
Weekly SMA200 has historically provided great support. Currently 91.81. Of course there's also the 92 level from summer that will hopefully provide support. I added more a few days ago. Not worried long or short term. I think AAPL at this level could be a haven even if the market downslide continues. one does wonder how much more downside we have if the 200 weekly MA is breached. last time there wasn't much more blood but it took a little while to come off those lows.
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Post by phoebear611 on Feb 11, 2016 8:35:21 GMT -8
$92 is crucial right now....AAPL, the stock, is on thin ice here and if Max Pain is $91 that doesn't make me very comfortable. Subsequently - it will also bring down the indices and could possibly wreak havoc. That being said - where is the company? Are they buying here? Meanwhile Yellen and the Hill's exchange on negative interest rates is completely spooking the market. And for the cherry on the cake...we are heading into a three day weekend - no trader goes home long for that - they are either flat or a little short....rule of thumb....
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Feb 11, 2016 9:11:22 GMT -8
9.94 trailing P/E. Really interesting since although revenue MIGHT slow for a time, EPS will be buffered by the buybacks, which I expect to be expanded in April.
Anecdotal: Was advised yesterday of an investment manager who moved aggresively into defensive posture....utilities, consumer staples...and Apple. Sheeesh.
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Post by phoebear611 on Feb 11, 2016 9:13:37 GMT -8
My Max Pain app is showing $95 as of right now ... not sure where you got 97.5. Earlier in the week it was $91 so I'm guessing it moved...and thanks for the link but I am very familiar with the theory...unfortunately at times.
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Post by phoebear611 on Feb 11, 2016 9:52:36 GMT -8
I wonder why it's not reflected as such on my app? -- weird
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Post by mrentropy on Feb 11, 2016 10:04:30 GMT -8
I respectfully disagree. The number of stops sitting below 92 I believe will strongly outweigh any options Delta hedging.
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Post by phoebear611 on Feb 11, 2016 10:14:15 GMT -8
Here's what my app for Max Pain shows for tomorrow:
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Post by rickag on Feb 11, 2016 10:40:23 GMT -8
Here's what my app for Max Pain shows for tomorrow: What app do you use?
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Post by phoebear611 on Feb 11, 2016 10:43:00 GMT -8
Here's what my app for Max Pain shows for tomorrow: What app do you use? If you type in Max Pain in your apps you get iMax Pain: Pro Options and that's the app for Max Pain ... am I looking at the wrong thing?
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Post by Since84 on Feb 11, 2016 10:51:41 GMT -8
I use maximum-pain.com. It is showing this Friday (2/12) Max Pain as $91 and next Fridays (2/19) as $97.50. The problem with any of these sites is they're not easy to validate without doing independent calculations -- something I haven't had the time to do. I have at times noticed discrepancies on this and other sites that made me question the accuracy.
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Post by Since84 on Feb 11, 2016 10:54:24 GMT -8
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Post by coma on Feb 11, 2016 11:12:46 GMT -8
I think Samsung was flirting with Darwin when they copied the iPhone years ago . . .
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Post by phoebear611 on Feb 11, 2016 11:58:25 GMT -8
"UAE energy ministers says current prices are not suitable for all producers" this one headline moved the market 200 points to the upside. Nah...we aren't rigged.
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Post by Luckychoices on Feb 11, 2016 13:49:54 GMT -8
Question of the day... What will you do with your dividend? If reinvesting, what are your target price points? We have no target price points because I suck at picking an AAPL entry point. IRA accounts - All IRA dividends are auto-invested within each of our accounts. Our last auto-invest, for November 2015 dividends, was at $113.76/share. So when I calculate the number of shares our IRA dividends will purchase this time, it appears that we'll get ~20% more shares than we would have if our stock prices was still at 113.76, as it was last November. And yes, that's some considerable consolation to me while our stock price remains lower than it should be. And yes, using my excellent 20-20 hindsight, I could have saved the dividend money from November and bought AAPL with it 3 weeks ago. On the other hand, after I bought it 3 weeks ago, the stock may have dropped another $10 a share and I'd be beating myself up buying too soon. I'm afraid I just don't have enough grey cells left to keep worrying about the rising and falling of the stock price and remain a happily retired person. Trust accounts 1. Since I passed the age of 70.5, the majority of our trust account dividends is used to pay our increased quarterly estimated taxes resulting from my yearly forced selling of AAPL shares from my IRAs due to RMD (Required Minimum Distribution). 2. Any money left after step #1 just goes to normal bill paying
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Post by firestorm on Feb 11, 2016 13:53:06 GMT -8
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Post by rickag on Feb 11, 2016 14:15:39 GMT -8
If you type in Max Pain in your apps you get iMax Pain: Pro Options and that's the app for Max Pain ... am I looking at the wrong thing? Thank you.
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Post by Volvocoupe on Feb 11, 2016 14:32:46 GMT -8
"UAE energy ministers says current prices are not suitable for all producers" this one headline moved the market 200 points to the upside. Nah...we aren't rigged. We need a RIG count Currently 572 is the active rig count in the U.S. It was about 1850 in 2014. 700 rigs is the level needed to maintain production.
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Post by macwire on Feb 11, 2016 16:33:18 GMT -8
"UAE energy ministers says current prices are not suitable for all producers" this one headline moved the market 200 points to the upside. Nah...we aren't rigged. We need a RIG count Understand that this kind of volatility is NOT bullish overall. What you are seeing is perpetual dip buyers (and algos) DYING to go long Not the kind of thing that puts a durable multimonth/year bottom in Still treacherous territory There are two things pressuring the market very hard...this USDJPY and the CL complex. That said, we should ahve a bounce here...RSI on that USDJPY is like 24...I just don't know if that means multi day bounce or multi HOUR bounce. As it stands now, multi hour bounces is ALL the market can seemingly sustain...a vicious rug pull prolly awaits us all. For my AAPL bulls, there were a lot of AAPL bullish option flow today...but we are talking feb/march exp'y...if you pay attention to that kind of thing. Here's a USDJPY/SPY for your bemusement. Attachments:
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Post by Ted on Feb 11, 2016 17:05:39 GMT -8
I just heard a rumor on NPR that Pandora may be putting itself up for sale. The stock is down 50% in the last few months. I wonder why they're hurting so much - heh heh. Apple Music, anyone? I could be wrong to jump to that conclusion, but it makes sense. Would Apple be interested in buying?
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Post by nagrani on Feb 11, 2016 17:20:19 GMT -8
Understand that this kind of volatility is NOT bullish overall. What you are seeing is perpetual dip buyers (and algos) DYING to go long Not the kind of thing that puts a durable multimonth/year bottom in Still treacherous territory There are two things pressuring the market very hard...this USDJPY and the CL complex. That said, we should ahve a bounce here...RSI on that USDJPY is like 24...I just don't know if that means multi day bounce or multi HOUR bounce. As it stands now, multi hour bounces is ALL the market can seemingly sustain...a vicious rug pull prolly awaits us all. For my AAPL bulls, there were a lot of AAPL bullish option flow today...but we are talking feb/march exp'y...if you pay attention to that kind of thing. Here's a USDJPY/SPY for your bemusement. You should post more
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Post by bud777 on Feb 11, 2016 18:11:29 GMT -8
I just heard a rumor on NPR that Pandora may be putting itself up for sale. The stock is down 50% in the last few months. I wonder why they're hurting so much - heh heh. Apple Music, anyone? I could be wrong to jump to that conclusion, but it makes sense. Would Apple be interested in buying? I am actually sorry to hear that. I find Pandora to be much more aligned to my tastes than Apple Music. Their algorithms seem to do a better job of finding songs I like. I hope they stay around
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